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#3001165 Gary Hetherington emails all super league clubs saying Carney shouldn't b...

Posted by JohnM on Yesterday, 01:24 PM

He was in a public place with his widge out on show peeing into his own mouth. If he wanted to do that he should have gone into a cubicle at least.


I don't disagree with you though, it certainly didn't offend me.



In Amsterdam, people pay a lot of money to see things like that...or so I am told

#3000899 RL fans mentality helping kill a dying sport.2

Posted by JohnM on Yesterday, 08:20 AM

For a game to attract people because it is enthralling, people have to know it is enthralling.that means exposing potential attendees to the game in a a way that encourages attendance.I doubt Sky does that as it's about subscriptions and advertising.

However, the Beeb has the power to do this. The quality of their coverage onradio and TV has improved in recent years but more new young presenters are needed,in addition to crabtree and Wilkin plusworkingcloser with the relevant to enhance the experience.

But most of all..competitive .INTERNATIONALs

#3000892 James Graham could end career Down Under

Posted by JohnM on Yesterday, 08:08 AM

Good lucky the guy. Who can blame him. The opportunities for him in the game here are so limited and with so much of the game here so determined on a heartlands provincial parochialism, he's going to be better off all round in Australia.

#3000300 What can we do to increase attendances?

Posted by JohnM on 22 September 2014 - 07:20 AM

It's about the money £££££££££.

Our game just doesn't have any. Even the biggest best and most successful clubs operate at a modest financial level. We have no effective and competitive international programme to capture the imagination (and money) of the general sports fan. This means that the RFL is generally working with chicken feed and has very limited funds to inject into the long term development of the game. This also means that there are limited commercial opportunities for investors, benefactors, sponsors, players etc.

#2999804 RL fans mentality helping kill a dying sport.2

Posted by JohnM on 21 September 2014 - 10:28 AM

There is always the possibility that most people just don't think RL is quite the spectacle that the hardline heartland fans think it is. Just a thought.  :ph34r:


Most people don't think soccer is, either


Most people don't think crikit is, either


Most people don't think ice hockey is, either


Most people don't think basketball is, either


Most people don't think lacrosse is, either


Most people don't think dwile flunking is, either



#2998990 Wasps moving to Coventry?

Posted by JohnM on 19 September 2014 - 05:25 PM

Stop "droning" on, get some work(er) done and earn your stripes!

#2998593 Scottish Independence Referendum

Posted by JohnM on 19 September 2014 - 07:06 AM

To be fair, if they were 16 in 1979 they'd have had a vote in 1997 when they were 34 and another today when they 51. Still time for even that 70s teenager to have a couple more constitutional reform referenda.

No. They've had their chance. That's it. Will ye go...Referendum no more, bleating no more, Salmon no more, Sellers no more..West Lothian no more, Barnet no more..

#2997445 Rotherham

Posted by JohnM on 17 September 2014 - 05:21 PM

 Also, how do you know she was inept, incompetent and irresponsible?  Because she was the boss and its axiomatically her fault if her team has failed. We need more accountability from these people where the price of failure is a huge payoff. She should have had the conscience to resign.


a properly convened disciplinary process would have dismissed her anyway. well then

#2997193 Rotherham

Posted by JohnM on 17 September 2014 - 11:59 AM

And no back again. She was awarded six hundred and eighty thousand pounds because she could afford the very best lawyers.  £680k? The price of ineptitude, incompetence and irresponsibility.  The woman has absolutely no conscience.

#2997179 A strip torn off the RFU

Posted by JohnM on 17 September 2014 - 11:48 AM

Have a care folks. As we speak, the RFU are claiming prior use, copyright and trademark protection on the VC symbol . The cease and desist letters will soon be going out to Frederick William III of Prussia, too.

#2996735 Scottish Independence Referendum

Posted by JohnM on 16 September 2014 - 03:39 PM


Returning to England this morning on the Channel Tunnel got talking to a Scots couple who were firmly in the No camp..and who fully expect the result to be no, too.

Then listening to Jeremy Vine on R 2 I heard the most appalling advocate of the Yes vote who actually managed to talk over the top of George Galloway, who is firmly in the no camp. The "yes" guy just lied through his teeth, refused to condemn those yes supporters who spat at Galloway. No, I didn't take notes as I was on the bike, but if it wasn't for the fact that I know so many honest, upright and sensible Scots, I'd wish for a resounding yes, so that the SNP and Tommy Sheriden and his ilk can just ###### off.....and devo max? ###### that too. ###### the Barnett formula, ###### MPs from Scotland having a say in English legislation.

#2996182 What can we do to increase attendances?

Posted by JohnM on 15 September 2014 - 07:17 PM

Tu quoquo won't increase attendances either. 
If you think one-out hit-ups are what make RL then fair enough. I think it is repetitive. Even a dummy scissors or the occasional circle pass would add some variety.

But it's not one out hit ups as you well know. Are you quite sure we are talking about the same code?

#2995966 What can we do to increase attendances?

Posted by JohnM on 15 September 2014 - 02:30 PM

I have been to both stadia in Leigh and Wigan and I prefer the atmosphere at the LSV with a 10,000 crowd to the same crowd at theDW stadium.

Well, of course you do, as your vision is a league of Leighs not a league of Wigans. Me, I really loved it when there were 25,000 in the DW. ...something well never ever see in your version of league.

#2995656 What can we do to increase attendances?

Posted by JohnM on 15 September 2014 - 05:34 AM

Selective use of the facts again.In 1983/84 Hull KR finished top of the league on 46 points. Hull were second on 45. KR won the premiership playoff. Hull won he Yorkshire Cup. In 1984 Hull KR won the Challenge Cup. The next year they won it again by beating Hull at a full Wembley. In 1984 Hull KR won the Regal Trophy beating Hull FC in the final. there were numerous other top level games between the two. In 1983 Hull KR beat Queensland unlike Leeds and Wigan who both got stuffed.In 1984 they played each other in the Yorkshire Cup final Attendance 25,237In 1985 they played each other in the regal trophy final Attendance 25,326In 1985 Hull played in the cup semi Attendance 20,982In the replay the attendance was 20,968In 1986 Hull KR played Leeds in the cup semi final Attendance 23,866In the replay the attendance was 32,845This era was the golden age for both clubs, so both were successful at the same time not one being up and one being down because they couldn't both be successful simultaneously as you were claiming.They also both used Australasian players extensively.

Clearly, then, to get back to those heady days of 30 years ago, we also need to uninvent mobile phones, digital television - sky and BBC, out of town shopping centres, motorways, extended shopping hours, PVRs, multi screen cinemas. Well need also to bring back Regal cigarettes, the Yorkshire cup and rickets.

#2995258 RL in London - the BBC's view

Posted by JohnM on 14 September 2014 - 04:26 PM

I want the RFL to focus on SuperLeague in the worlds greatest city. However, since Manchester is already well served by suburban teams in Wigan and Warrington, then the RFL Must concentrate on the nations capital,not on provincial towns that despite the excellent work done in those places, will never command the nations attention in the way that a successful London club once did....and will do again.