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#3017263 2015 'New Era' Season Fixtures in Monday's League Express

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 21 October 2014 - 08:47 AM

Well it didn't take long before the fixture thread turned into another moan about the new league system.

#3016768 Keiron Cunningham named Saints coach

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 20 October 2014 - 09:46 AM

James Webster - 35
Lee Radford - 35
Chris Chester - 36
Laurent Frayssinous - 37
Keiron Cunningham - 37
Iestyn Harris - 38
Paul Anderson - 42
Brian Mcdermott - 44
Dennis Betts - 45
Tony Smith - 47
Darryl Powell - 49
Shaun Wane - 50

Half the league in their 30s. Only two foreign coaches. And only one who has never played during the Super League era. Getting more and more a young man's game!

#3014911 Canadian team apply to join Championship 1 (merged threads)

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 16 October 2014 - 11:17 AM

Until the game here can get itself sorted out financially I do not really see the point in expanding beyond the boundarys we have now.

That's like saying we'll stop selling to new customers because our current customers aren't buying enough.

We won't buy any more products because the ones we have aren't selling yet.

#3014206 Ben Flower banned for 6 months

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 15 October 2014 - 07:34 AM

Hold on, so a still photo is now good evidence of something, strange that because when I posted the still image of Flowers smacking Hohaia round the back of the head you dismissed it. Amazing hypocrisy. But no less than what many of us expect I suppose.

He never said he was showing the elbow though, everyone's conclusion jumping apparently...
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#3014082 Ben Flower banned for 6 months

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 14 October 2014 - 09:42 PM

As long as we don't have to watch Roby on that Look NW sofa again!

The ban shouldn't include the off season and should start from the first competitive game.
A bit of perspective, I re-watched the first few minutes and Masoe was lucky he wasn't sent off with at least 3 cheap shots, one a blatant swing at a tackled player. I also saw footage of Westwood's cowardly attack on Green last year when the man was pinned to the floor.
Flower has disgraced everyone and lost Wigan the final ,but boy hasn't he played right into the hands of all you Wigan haters! Enjoy your moment in the sun!

I think even Wigan fans are embarrassed by your comment.

#3013744 Canadian team apply to join Championship 1 (merged threads)

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 14 October 2014 - 11:26 AM

if they've got the money and they want to spend it in this way then it's their money to spend. There is a good chance if this fabulously crazy idea comes off then Rugby in North America will benefit. Free your mind good buddy.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't begrudge them going this route at all. In fact, in really intrigued to see how it pans out. I just think it would make a hell of a lot more sense to use the money to build the game domestically to a level of KPC1 than to fly over one club.

Just seems a bit Pie in the Sky to me.

#3012934 Ben Flower Sending Off / Reaction / Apology (merged threads)

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 13 October 2014 - 11:20 AM

So, looking at this on the evidence...

Flower takes Hohaia out off the ball when chasing a kick (silly, but happens in most games of rugby, shouldn't have done it).

Hohaia over reacts, runs out of his way, and well late of where the ball is, to retaliate with a forearm to the face (incredibly stupid, probably deserved yellow).

Flower reacts to this with a punch (again, often happens on a rugby field when you've had a shot to the face, probably another sin bin as it was provoked, possibly a ban for punching, reduced to one game for early guilty plea and a good record).

Flower follows through with a second punch to a player prone on the floor unable to defend himself (no defence, sickening thing to do and should get a huge ban, 10 game minimum). Incident showed all the signs of uncontrollable rage, which is a horrendous image. When you knock a man down, you stand over him ready to continue to defend yourself if needed. You don't follow up on the floor, and the fact he couldn't stop himself doing that, heat of the moment or not, is incredibly concerning.

But what's done is done. Punishments will be handed out and need to be accepted, and the sport will move on. Ben Flower may not though. I know Padge made a link to Terry Newton which done may have found unnecessary, but I made a similar link after the game. Flower will be at rock bottom at the moment. He's copping it from the fans, the sport, the media, even non-fans; not to mention he has let his club down on the biggest possible stage and cost them a season's work all within 2 minutes of the game. He will need help dealing with that.

He's made a horrendous mistake. He's owned up to it. He'll take whatever punishment is thrown at him. He's down remorse. He won't do it again! But RL is a family and he will need support as well so he can come back and make up for it.

#3012322 11/10/14 - SLGF: St Helens v Wigan Warriors KO 6pm (TV)

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 12 October 2014 - 03:06 PM

Making a mistake is putting an apostrophe in the wrong place when writing a sentence because you don't know any better. Flower's second punch to Hohaia was no mistake. He knew Hohaia was on the floor because he could see him on the floor. He still went ahead and delivered a punch to his face. That was deliberate and intentional and therefore the total opposite of a mistake.

Think you need to look up the definition of the word "mistake".
I think you're confusing it with the word "accident".

#3011034 RLIF reveals World Cup 2021 bidding process

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 10 October 2014 - 11:05 AM

They should be doing this sort of thing with the Four Nations as well I think. The RLIF would be stupid to risk the World Cup in an emerging country, but the Four Nations could work well, especially if the fourth nation is the country that has bid for it.

#3011000 Kevin Brown to Cronulla Sharks back on, say reports

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 10 October 2014 - 09:50 AM

That photoshop effort is embarrassing. Whoever did it (and then chose to use it) should sit down and have a think.

#3008432 World Club Series 2015 (merged threads)

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 06 October 2014 - 11:59 AM

Would've been no harm in adding Catalan against NZ Warriors.

Disagree. I think it would further harm the view that the series is a convoluted set of friendlies hand picked by organisers rather than a genuine World Club Series based on merit.

#3006751 The David Waite appreciation thread

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 03 October 2014 - 10:17 AM

Aggregate score of 63-50 across three Ashes Tests v Australia in 2003. Looks quite respectable with the benefit of hindsight. GB could (and really should) have won all three games that series. What would our sport look like now if they had, I wonder. Would we still be playing for the Ashes now, instead of having seen them chucked in the dustbin of history?

2003 Ashes Tests

GB 18 - Aus 22
GB 20 - Aus 23
GB 12 - Aus 18

He had some close scores against the Aussies certainly, but they were certainly some of the weakest Aussie sides I've seen come over.

It was his team selection that did it for me. Four loose forwards in one starting line up, half backs on the wings... It just made no sense.

#3006483 02/10/14 - St Helens v Catalan Dragons KO 8pm (TV)

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 02 October 2014 - 08:30 PM

Has there ever been a more one sided game from a referee? Every 50:50 call seems to have gone against the French.

#3005544 Cougars begin legal action; propose expanded Championship (merged threads)

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 01 October 2014 - 10:06 AM

I agree wellsy. The fact those clubs last season got away without any punishment sadly IMO means donny and batley can't be punished unless those of last season get punished too. Which in my opinion I can't see happening. No doubt about it keighley have been hard done by but you can't punish batley and donny if the rest got away with it. The problem we have now though is it sets the ball in motion for the following seasons because if something isn't done to all these clubs that broke the rules more will do it and just say you can't punish us they did it and got away with it etc etc.

Well no, you don't agree with me then. I've said the exact opposite there.

If clubs knew there would be more serious consequences in the future, they cannot complain about past consequences. It's like me sparking up a cig in a pub, getting a fine from a police officer and telling him "well Mr Smith had a cig in here in 2006 and you didn't fine him."

If what happened in the past was all that mattered, you'd never be able to implement any new rules... ever. That's not how the world works. This is a huge cock up by the RFL and Keighley are right to feel aggrieved and want justice as they have been the most damaged by it.

#3005483 Cougars begin legal action; propose expanded Championship (merged threads)

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 01 October 2014 - 08:11 AM

I very much doubt points will be deducted and the league positions get changed. That's my opinion of course just for the fact that half a dozen plus broke the rules last season so they would have to be punished to ( which I can't see happening). The best the cougars n eagles will get is a bit of compo I reckon but at what cost? The compo probably won't cover the legal fees. So is it worth it? Maybe for the integrity of the game but I doubt either are in it for that reason its all about money. Which in that case is it worth it?

If it's true that the clubs in question last season were warned and all clubs notified that further breaches would be punished, I really don't see how it is an issue to punish only this season's offenders? They all knew about it. Nobody complained about it last year. They had their chance. I find it ridiculous that it's come to this to be honest.