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#2994359 12/09/14 - Huddersfield Giants v St Helens KO 8pm (TV)

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 12 September 2014 - 09:40 PM

The irony is if Castleford lose tomorrow, they'll have to see Saints lift the LLS in their next game!


#2993657 Todd Carney - ready to go to france for 4 years

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 12 September 2014 - 06:41 AM

another exciting young french player for catalans......................oh wait a minute another aussie ass hole

Because Widnes never sign overseas players...


#2989800 Opinion: Could Club Call finally deliver at the final hurdle?

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 07 September 2014 - 10:30 AM

The first year of Club Call was a pretty easy choice, let's be fair. Leeds (1st) picking Catalans (8th). Easy to dismiss as pointless.

Saints (2nd) picking Wire (3rd) instead of Wigan (1st) was also a pretty easy choice, although it may have made an interesting final game at Knowsely Road.

Two years of picking Leeds (5th) came back to bite the league leaders (Wigan and Wire) in the bottom.

Finally last year, a team dares pick outside the norm and it pays off. I can see Saints, Hudds or Cas being picked this year if the alternative is Wigan, Leeds, Wire.


#2989666 Gareth Hock to leave Salford?

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 07 September 2014 - 12:58 AM

Hull now favourites


Certainly a player that knows his way to the line.


#2984504 Change That Bloody Stupid Rule!

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 29 August 2014 - 12:05 AM

How would you change it? It's alright criticising but what's the alternative? What we had a couple of years ago was definitely worse.

How would I change it? I'd get rid of it! If you touch the ball when you're out of play, you've taken the ball out of play. Other team's ball.


#2984342 Change That Bloody Stupid Rule!

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 28 August 2014 - 08:21 PM

Worst rule in rugby league. One foot over the line so you can hit the ball out. But inly if the ball's moving.
It's confusing. It's negative. It doesn't reward a great kick. Why the hell was it brought in? Everyone was happy when it went after 2002.


#2975224 RFL - The New Era

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 11 August 2014 - 10:29 AM

and some wont bother listening, wont bother looking, and dont take that much part. 

 

I dont think it is complicated, i think it is too complex and you have to know too much about it to say where you are and what you are playing for, and the vast majority of people in this country simply wont take the time to bother to learn about it and will be turned off from watching a game where they dont know what they are playing for. 

 

There isnt a sport on TV where you could watch a game and not know what is actually being played for at any stage. The Premier League play for the premier league, the championship play for the championship and promotion, NFL the superbowl. The champions league play for the champions league. Pick any game at random and you know immediately what the game is for or contributing towards. 

Our system you simply dont, you would need to either have kept up with the season or you would need to research it. Are you playing for a place in the top 8? the top 4? the top 3? are you playing for the title? this weird shield thing at the bottom? to stay in your league, to be promoted from it? are you playing to be top 3? are you playing to be 5th which in one of the extra bits has very little difference to 4th, and in another wouldnt qualify you for the next stage where as 4th would? a game in the middle 8 between 1st and 2nd sounds like it should be a big important game, realistically it makes little difference, to those that know really it is the battle for 9th place, its pretty unimportant. 

In the Super League, you play for the Super League. In the Championship, you play for the Championship. I don't understand how it is a different concept?

Questioning whether you're playing for a place in the top 8 is the same as questioning whether a Premier League club is playing for a Champions League spot (top 4) or a Europa league spot (5th to 6th, I think, or something to do with winners/runners up in separate cup competitions?). It's exactly the same thing. I honestly couldn't tell you how you qualify for the Europa Cup, but they're pretty excited about it round these parts.

 

Trying to use the NFL as a simple comparison is also laughable. The NFL seasons is incredibly complicated how the work out who plays who and who doesn't play who over God knows how many seasons cycles, yet they get hundreds of thousands watching in their stadia every week.

 

If you want to know the far end of a fart for everything, then yeah the finer details become a bit of a read.

In simple terms, there are two leagues of 12. They split into three leagues of 8 after a round robin and then a small play-off. You're playing to finish as high as possible and win your play-off.




#2975076 RFL - The New Era

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 10 August 2014 - 11:02 PM

As for complicated, here is a diagram of the frequently complained about, difficult to understand, lowly supported, laughing stock that is the football Champions' League:

http://newsimg.bbc.c...e_paths_466.gif


#2973180 Expanded World Club Championship

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 07 August 2014 - 06:09 PM

If these fixtures are just chosen by the clubs involved, it is effectively just a pre-season friendly tournament like the Emirates Cup in football. It wouldn't be a proper WCC if it's not based on merit. That's the issue. If it wants credibility, it has to have qualification based on merit.


#2972114 RLWC 2017 Qualification

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 05 August 2014 - 10:33 PM

So what do you think the makeup of the 2017 RLWC will be?

 

Automatic - Australia, New Zealand, England, Fiji, Samoa, France, Scotland

Europe - Wales, Ireland, Italy

Pacific - PNG, Tonga

America - Canada

Middle East/Africa - Lebanon

 

Will be a close call for the likes of USA, Jamaica, Cooks and South Africa I reckon.

Personally, I think the third qualifying place from Europe would have made for a good repechage tournament, likely between Italy, Cooks, USA and South Africa. If they held it in Australia, they wouldn't have to travel far! :D




#2971733 The all-new never-ending League Restructure debate (Many merged threads)

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 05 August 2014 - 11:41 AM

If we applied P+R to last year then 14th was a relegation spot. Salford finished in 14th ergo they finished in a relegation spot.


But your argument (again which you've slightly changed thinking I wouldn't notice) was:
Salford finished 14th in a non-P&R season.
A P&R season means that 14th is relegated.
Therefore, had there been P&R, Salford would have been relegated.
It's a fallacious argument. It's not just me that sees it.

Here are similar arguments to show your fallacy:

A car runs a green light.
If a car runs a red light, it's illegal.
Therefore, had the light been red, the car would have run a red light.

It has the appearance of logic, but it ignores the fact that if the light had been red, the car might have stopped.

It is you that has created a hypothetical season, your argument is based on a fallacy.


#2971309 Battle for Eighth...

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 04 August 2014 - 04:51 PM

That's were we've been going wrong! Or is that a predictive text alert ?? :sclerosis:

Bloody stupid iPhone!

Or stupid sausage thumbs. I dunno! It wasn't intentional, let's put it that way!


#2970721 RLWC 2017 Qualification

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 03 August 2014 - 08:55 PM

france ahead of the usa they are extracting the urine in the past wo tournaments france have won 1 game

Ok, we get it. You don't like France!


#2970420 Catalans Rumour

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 03 August 2014 - 04:35 PM

If Bradford as big as they are found SL tough then the smaller replacements will simply find it tougher.

The key is the governing bodies controlling club finances much stricter

Well no, that's not true at all is it? If it were, then that would surely mean that every club you consider smaller than Bradford would find it tougher (including those currently in SL). The fact that Warrington are winning trophies and Huddersfield are competing at the top dispels that logic completely.

Just because a big club messed up doesn't mean there's no hope for the smaller clubs. It means that anyone can mess up, regardless of how big they are.


#2969668 01/08/14 - Hull FC v St Helens KO 8pm

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 01 August 2014 - 11:08 PM

Second half, Saints were awful. Just dropping the ball left right and centre. Had Hull had any idea in attack, we could have stuffed you tonight. The amount of possession we had in the second half on your line should have seen us at least score enough to win the Prescott Cup. :(