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Wellsy4HullFC

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#3170532 Ian Henderson to leave Dragons

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on Yesterday, 08:02 PM

my dads told me that don't understand it Catalan was not formed for this it was formed to produce French internationals.

They were formed to make SL stronger, which they do.

Some people forget how many overseas players are at their own club just so they can have a dig at the French at times.


#3169937 Makes good reading for me, someone will pick holes in it

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 02 August 2015 - 08:18 PM

Fair reflection

No, not at all.

Do Castleford only attract people from Castleford because they're called Castleford? If that's the case, Aston Villa's 34,133 compares nicely to their 27,917 population from the 2001 census (122% of their population!).

What is Castleford's target population in total? How many clubs do they share parts of that with? How big is the immediate population to them? That's what matters, not the population within the boundaries of their name.


#3169839 WCS qualification.

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 02 August 2015 - 04:52 PM

I agree but I don't think the rfl ever thought of it as even a remote possibility

Perhaps, although when they announced it, it was after Hull KR were in the Middle 8s and at a time they were in the Semi finals so it's not like it wouldn't have crossed their minds.

It's still pretty remote though. Rovers might get relegated, but definitely won't win the cup ;)


#3169060 Eorl Crabtree's County of Origin fantasy

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 01 August 2015 - 11:01 AM

I don't have a problem with Yorkshire vs Lancashire as a trial game, but not in place of an England game.

I'd rather see it on the same weekend as France vs England for players who didn't get selected to have a chance to show what they've got on the rep stage. It keeps tradition, yet it's low key enough to be kept out of the firing line.


#3168007 Crowdwatch 23

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 30 July 2015 - 04:12 PM

Warrington's biggest crowd was against Salford? That's surprised me. Were both the Saints and Wigan games on Thursdays? They used to sell those out every year.


#3167981 points at start of super 8's

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 30 July 2015 - 03:29 PM

It would make the playoffs more exciting for more people and TV and if these teams are as you say mediocre they will not trouble the higher placed teams. Your comment about the challenge cup distraction meant some teams having to play an extra game midweek which was not helpful or fair

Whilst it would make the end more exciting with everyone still having a shot at the Championship, it devalues the first 23 rounds (which is the issue we had before with the top eight system).

We don't have an additional competition teams can qualify for unfortunately unlike football (Champions League/Europa League) and union (Euro Champions Cup), and so until we do, there's not a lot for them to pay for unfortunately. Just have to try harder next year.


#3167243 Wakefield to share with Dewsbury?

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 29 July 2015 - 08:34 AM

Whoooooosh.

lets not tell people what they can and can't post

Or let's just stick to the topic and not have another thread drift on the same subject.


#3167201 Toulouse: SuperLeague in 3 years

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 29 July 2015 - 07:40 AM

Didn't work last time because of the ridiculous salary cap difference between the French league and the Championship. Awful planning.

We now see then drop into an even lower league with an even bigger difference in salary cap, but then their is a bigger cap than before in the Championship so if they can get out of League 1, then there is a lot of potential there as they can actually sign the best French players then (which was the point all along!).

Will they have a strong enough squad on £250k to get out of League 1 though?


#3166728 Overseas signings

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 28 July 2015 - 01:01 PM

There is also the issue of how these youngsters are produced. Too many people are of the opinion that they simply need a bit of game time and they'll be in the right path to development (so these foreigners coming in and taking their jobs is stopping them from developing). It simply doesn't work like that.

Young players that we hope will develop into class players need to be in a competitive environment playing alongside as high quality players as possible so they can learn from them and be pushed by them. They also need to be playing against appropriate quality opposition in order to progress and test their abilities. If we simply throw in a load of youngsters and sub-par English players and hope that something comes out of it, it not only wastes a lot of money but the quality on the pitch becomes incredibly poor and then the spectator suffers. More youngsters doesn't equal better.

This is the issue of debate at Hull currently in the merger of academies. There are lots of complicated issues in regards to how to best develop our youngsters. Just leaving space at SL level isn't the answer. If they're good enough, they'll get a place.


#3165694 When you need a spead sheet to explain its time to rethink

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 26 July 2015 - 11:59 PM

At the start of the season Leeds saints or Wigan was going to win the super 8s so no change their after 23 games. So fans are going to pay £18 plus a game to watch fev play 7 extra games to just get an home fixture in the semis? lol.Just look at fevs crowd yesterday and I expect many other clubs in the bottom 8s crowds will drop off too once their safe or guaranteed the semis. Which most are all of the above now.

Do fans not have a season ticket? If the split hadn't happened, what reason would fans be coming as they're not going to finish top!

Warrington were one of the favourites. Suddenly they're not on that list. It only takes one slip up now for the favourites to miss the GF.


#3165281 The "Middle Clubs"

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 26 July 2015 - 05:44 PM

Seems to be a bit of a moan from some people about the new system that some of the mid-table clubs don't have anything to play for now as they can't (realistically) reach the top four (even if it is mathematically possible).

My take is that it's taken 23 games to get to the stage where only two clubs don't realistically have anything left to play for other than league position. That's not a bad figure. Compare that with licensing, there were usually about 4-5 teams with nothing to play for at this stage (they couldn't realistically make the playoffs). And if you compare it with football, there's a world of difference!

Regardless of whether this is better than before or not, we should always be looking for solutions to continue and improve. So what could be done about the "early season ending" in the new system?

Extending the playoffs to 6 would give teams something to play for for longer, but would dilute the achievement of finishing higher in the table as well as make an already long season one week longer. A no from me.

So what else is there? Football has the Europa League for the next few teams outside the top four. Could we extend the World Club Series to 6 clubs perhaps to give everyone at least something to aim for? Maybe only a CC bye for the top 6 on top of that?

I've thoroughly enjoyed the run up to the split to be honest, and although our season is effectively over in terms of what else we can achieve (other than league position), I believe we've got what we deserve and will have to try harder next year (we shouldn't be mid table and have a shot at being champions).

It's been a while since there was this much interest in the club game in the June-July part of the season!


#3165213 When you need a spead sheet to explain its time to rethink

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 26 July 2015 - 04:58 PM

I was at a birthday party today for a young person.

I was asked if I could explain the new system, to Wiganers who are casual rugby folloers, how the new system worked I mentioned the RFL recommend downloading their spreadsheet which shows how it works.


Do the RFL recommend downloading their spreadsheet as a means to a basic explanation of the new system?

You've been incredibly disingenuous in your attempt to help this person understand the new system basically because you don't like it, and in turn probably turned someone off the game. Well done.

The hypocrisy of some of the licensing supporters that had a go at the fans who didn't like the loss of P&R (and talked it down as a result) is remarkable. It's really gone full circle.

Got the good of the game at heart though, eh Padge?


#3160714 17 Jul: Hull KR v Hull FC KO 8pm (TV)

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 19 July 2015 - 04:56 PM

I don't buy this 'making up the numbers' stuff either. We've already beaten Castleford twice this season and we've beaten Saints, Warrington and Huddersfield on their own grounds. I'm really looking forward to playing the top sides every week. The relegation scrap our neighbours now find themselves in is going to be interesting too.

And we've beaten Catalans as well.

And we only lost by one point to Wigan away, with a game to play.

We're more than capable of beating any of the top sides on our day. It's all too play for.


#3157307 French Update

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 12 July 2015 - 09:00 PM

Small baby steps for the elite... I hope one day the elite 1 can reach its potential or pave the way for a future professional league in france

I think if the game can sustain a few European clubs in the UK league structure, we have a better environment for them to develop into Super clubs and eventually be able to source a TV rights contract from overseas to introduce a French/European conference in SL. 4-6 clubs is achievable in the not too distant future IMO. We just need an outlined strategy for ambitious European clubs to follow!


#3157091 Hull FC and Hull KR to merge...

Posted by Wellsy4HullFC on 12 July 2015 - 06:38 PM

Awww what's up chuck , you don't want everybody laughing at you ? Diddumms

Do us a favour and have your daily petty squabble with scotchy on a thread to do with the thing you're squabbling about.