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Bedford Roughyed

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#3014351 Rugby Oldham Supporters Trust

Posted by Bedford Roughyed on 15 October 2014 - 12:11 PM

From memory the RO aims didn't include running the rugby club (or one of the reasons) so not to antagonise CH and the board, so to enter negotiations as an ally not a group waiting to stage a coup.


CH (again from memory) was worried that RO was just another front to oust him. 


I think RO have bent over backwards to try and prove they are for the good of the game, not a disruptive pressure group.

#3011415 By-election round up

Posted by Bedford Roughyed on 11 October 2014 - 08:10 AM

Actual quote from Clacton -

Yes I voted UKIP, the Tory MP has done nothing for years.

#3011383 By-election round up

Posted by Bedford Roughyed on 11 October 2014 - 01:35 AM





#3011357 Not Again

Posted by Bedford Roughyed on 10 October 2014 - 09:55 PM

The club is run on a shoestring, the winding up orders tell you how close/tight we are run.  We pay the debt, albeit late, its not something that stops me supporting the club.


Would people rather we pay HMRC on time or have 3-4 less players? Serious question. 


It's obvious that CH puts together the best team he can for the money the club has.  He defers paying HMRC because he cant defer paying the players.  This is the reality of where we are. 

#3011331 By-election round up

Posted by Bedford Roughyed on 10 October 2014 - 09:15 PM

I don't find Miliband slimy, however I don't find him inspirational or a leader figure.  He'd be a good party deputy or front bencher, but as far as a leader...

#3011219 By-election round up

Posted by Bedford Roughyed on 10 October 2014 - 04:49 PM

Malala Yousafzai has just won the Nobel Peace prize. Typical bloody health tourist.

#3007801 Four Nations: England squad discussion thread

Posted by Bedford Roughyed on 05 October 2014 - 12:34 PM

That idiot McNamara hasn't selected roby and mcilorum because they are having surgery. What a moron eh?

#3002645 Friday deadline!

Posted by Bedford Roughyed on 25 September 2014 - 09:17 PM

Sadly I don't think we fully understood/was aware/was told about the ground before we dived in with 2 feet.  The council had a ground they wanted shut of and we were desperate.  Gift horses and all that.


We are now in a place where we can only build on less than half the ground cause the rest is owned by someone else.  (this is still the situation as far as I know, happy to be corrected??)


So do we -


A) Spend lots of money on half a ground which will still likely fail to meet the standards and have little money for players.

B) Spend as little as possible on the ground, try and get promoted, work it out when we come to it.


I Think they have gone for option B.  Not ideal, not transparent but I can understand the choices.




#2983923 What could it cost to influence the club?

Posted by Bedford Roughyed on 28 August 2014 - 01:01 PM

General thread warning....


Can we keep things roughly on topic?  i.e. the club and not who is wearing a dress?


Please debate the issues and feel free to debate strongly and robustly, but leave the name calling and jibes to the playground.

#2983883 Ukraine

Posted by Bedford Roughyed on 28 August 2014 - 11:57 AM

Its not an Invasion.... they were just lost.... no wait they were just on holiday....

#2983845 Ukip gets its first MP

Posted by Bedford Roughyed on 28 August 2014 - 10:58 AM

Typical of UKIP...defects but too incompetent to actually join the party....

#2983716 Rotherham

Posted by Bedford Roughyed on 28 August 2014 - 08:15 AM

If you want to think it is all about the race of the guys and the race of the girls, then fine.


It's not what the report says, but fine.


The more common element between Rotherham, Rochdale, Cyril Smith, Elm House, Et al, is the abuse of vulnerable kids mostly in care (or 'known' to social services) and how these kids get ignored when they do actually come forward.

#2983371 Rotherham

Posted by Bedford Roughyed on 27 August 2014 - 01:12 PM

It's not either- or, though.



The report, by Prof Alexis Jay , who knows what she is talking about, covers  all of that and more,  as well as covering the very real issue of people for whatever reason feeling that they cannot speak out for fear of being accused of racism. It is a very real fear and people who do speak out do get accused of racism. 


Are you saying that that fear does not exist?


Are you saying the people who speak out have not been accused of racism? 


The report shows that people did speak out.  It was at the 'policy' level where race seems to come into it. 


The report said people feared that race would come into it, but no one could highlight instances of race stopping an investigation. 


11.9 Frontline staff did not report personal experience of attempts to influence their practice or decision making because of ethnic issues. Those who had involvement in CSE were acutely aware of these issues and recalled a general nervousness in the earlier years about discussing them, for fear of being thought racist.


So it's a self fulfilling prophecy.  Everyone fears it without it actually happening. 

#2983333 Rotherham

Posted by Bedford Roughyed on 27 August 2014 - 12:08 PM

It's easier to blame PCGM than ask hard questions about how various agencies view victims, how various agencies work with each other, how councils interact with officers, how councillors interact with wards, how resources are spread and used, how staff are trained..... etc, etc, etc.....

#2982984 Rotherham

Posted by Bedford Roughyed on 26 August 2014 - 02:34 PM

"Several staff described their nervousness about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought as racist; others remembered clear direction from their managers not to do so."




Race played a part, no doubt, but it's not that clear cut as to say it was the only reason for the reports being dismissed/hidden.