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#3028572 International Game Should Dump Australia & move on

Posted by IM2 on 07 November 2014 - 01:10 PM

Union could survive without the ABs, yes. But would they be drawing 60k in the US and 80k in Italy? Less likely. Would the RUWC have gone from strength to strength? Again, unlikely. Barca is different again. So many people are so keen on football already, they'd just latch onto another team if Barca didn't exist.

ok but are you saying we cant survive without oz. seems we get around 20k when the kiwis play over here for a series. its not like we are getting 60k when oz comes its more like 25/30k. to me we should be aiming for the 60k and the only way you do that is a meaningful international structure with history and a WC as the pinnacle that everyone wants to win. i bet if you asked the aussies SOO or WC there wouldnt even be a debate.




#3028563 International Game Should Dump Australia & move on

Posted by IM2 on 07 November 2014 - 01:05 PM

ok but they shouldnt be making that decision. 

 

also the rules applied seem to be a mix of international and NRL.

 

too much influence means too much self interest




#3028556 International Game Should Dump Australia & move on

Posted by IM2 on 07 November 2014 - 12:57 PM

its nowt to do with beating them its about growing the game and making the decisions that are right for the international game and not the Australian game. Yes ABs are huge but could Union survive without them yes of course. Barcelona are perhaps the biggest sporting brand or at least one of them in the world. could football survive yes it could. Scottish football lost Rangers and its actually thrived.

 

for me Australia have too much influence and make far too many parochial decisons that means we will never move on.

 

one headline this week did it for me where they said that the Samoa v Oz game boiled down to an Origin match up for the centres. Thats tells it all to me whats more important state footie or international.

 

personally i love watching the aussies but sometimes you have to take some short term pain to get where you need to.




#3028527 International Game Should Dump Australia & move on

Posted by IM2 on 07 November 2014 - 12:31 PM

I have been thinking about this for the last few weeks. The international game has always been on the cusp of expansion since the 50s when we established the first world cup. The SL war in Oz really set everything back and changed the mentality of the game there. RL in Oz has become like American sports like NFL, Baseball etc where they thrive domestically and create a rep structure around that.

 

This is highlighted by the obsession with origin and the clear view its the pinnacle of anyones career in RL. Clearly Origin is the best standard of RL going and hugely entertaining and popular. In fact I am even planning on going next year with some mates. However its good for Oz but not many others.

 

Union's WC started in 1987 in front of poor crowds and limited TV. 37 years later its the 3rd largest tournament after Olympics and Football WC. More importantly its going to be an Olympic as well as a Commonwealth sport meaning important markets like US, India and China will be opened up.

 

Our WC was a massive success and the OZ and European 4 nations was a huge chance for the game to build on that. Plus all the other intl events going on. For all the Oz is a superb spectacle and success its been vastly under promoted, no sponsors and off course limited TV coverage. The EU one didnt even get broadcast!! This was our chance to build and show off.

 

So where does that leave us. Australia will never see international RL development as a priority period. So lets get on without them. Sure they are a huge drawcard but that will change over time. in 1987 who would have said US RU team would play the All Blacks in front of 63k in Chicago, Italy being competitive in the 6 nations and filling 80k to watch the All Blacks in Milan and Argentina playing and beating teams in the Southern Hemisphere Championship. RU is at the point where there is good depth and increasing. Plus the game is managed by a true International RB and not the equivalent of the All Blacks. 

 

If we ignored the Aussies how much depth would we have. I personally think that a 4 nations is still do able - England, NZ, Samoa & one off PNG, Scotland, France and so on. Stick with the rotation format so the same 2 or 3 for both hemispheres then the other 1 or 2 qualify. Move to 6 nations after the next WC

 

If you think about FIFA is a good role model here (the only time we will say that about FIFA), but they dont favour the big established players like the European behemoths instead they try to grow the rest eg WC in SA.

 

It may mean crowds and revenues are depressed for 10 years but the game over time would be way more vibrant and the revenue line from internationals and the club game would see exponential growth.

 

In this way we would have a chance of growing the game as we all want and we would leave these guys behind.




#2978386 East Leeds U15s to Play Skolars at Friday Night Lights

Posted by IM2 on 16 August 2014 - 02:40 PM

Skolars U15 v East Leeds part of Friday Night Lights Eve of Challenge Cup Festivities - KO of your Wembley Weekend in Style!
 
As part of the annual Friday Night Lights where Skolars play Hunslet in the eve of Challenge Cup match in Enfield Skolars U15s will play East Leeds U15s as a curtain raiser. along the main match, a bbq, a masters tournament and a real ale festival its an excellent way to start your Challenge Cup Wembley weekend. 
 
all welcome. Advance tickets are £10 on the night £12. use this link to buy http://www.skolarsrl...t-lights-2014/ 
 
Skolars also have discounted CC tickets at £20 for £27 face value pls use this link http://www.skolarsrl...final-tickets/ 
 
more info on FRiday night Lights is here: http://www.skolarsrl...st-2012-adult/ 



#2978379 East Leeds U15s to Play Skolars at Friday Night Lights

Posted by IM2 on 16 August 2014 - 02:33 PM

Skolars U15 v East Leeds part of Friday Night Lights Eve of Challenge Cup Festivities - KO of your Wembley Weekend in Style!
 
As part of the annual Friday Night Lights where Skolars play Hunslet in the eve of Challenge Cup match in Enfield Skolars U15s will play East Leeds U15s as a curtain raiser. along the main match, a bbq, a masters tournament and a real ale festival its an excellent way to start your Challenge Cup Wembley weekend. 
 
all welcome. Advance tickets are £10 on the night £12. use this link to buy http://www.skolarsrl...t-lights-2014/ 
 
Skolars also have discounted CC tickets at £20 for £27 face value pls use this link http://www.skolarsrl...final-tickets/ 
 
more info on FRiday night Lights is here: http://www.skolarsrl...st-2012-adult/ 



#2916815 RL in the evening standard

Posted by IM2 on 15 April 2014 - 02:25 PM

Last few years ES has been getting better at covering RL. inc regular features of Broncos, England, Skolars etc. even martin offiah had a column.

 

seems to have fallen off a cliff.

 

we should lobby to get it going again. drop this guy an email and ask him whats happening

 

Sport
Head of Sport: Neil Robinson 
E: sportdesk@standard.co.uk




#2884228 22/02/14 - London Broncos v Salford Red Devils KO 3pm

Posted by IM2 on 19 February 2014 - 10:54 PM

i will be going. much more accessible now. i think broncos will be wip for a few weeks yet and will have some big swings with a few decent results and blow outs being served up. if anyone else expects anything else then good luck but cant see it. i do think tony rea is smart and will make solid progress




#2842320 Kevin Sinfield Column - Telegraph

Posted by IM2 on 25 November 2013 - 03:37 PM

top guy. most of the tries came from him as well. bad error at the end but as he says who didnt make one? i loved saturdays game. it hurts bad but surely we have solid foundations to move onwards from here. we need to build on this and quickly.




#2839800 RLWC ticket sales (merged, including selling tix for final)

Posted by IM2 on 22 November 2013 - 09:22 AM

last one out of st albans turn off the lights!




#2839617 RLWC ticket sales (merged, including selling tix for final)

Posted by IM2 on 21 November 2013 - 09:56 PM

st albans now over the 800 mark  a huge well done to them.

 

St Albans Centurions @StAlbansCents 8m

A fantastic effort by all at the club sees over 800 tickets sold for The Big Hit on Saturday at Wembley! http://fb.me/33kbob3UT

top notch well done




#2837946 each year there should be an 7 nations tournament following this WC

Posted by IM2 on 18 November 2013 - 08:36 PM

interesting twist on this is that its one up on the onion game that only has a 6 nations! marketing coup!




#2834230 Award 2021 WC To UK&I Now!

Posted by IM2 on 13 November 2013 - 02:59 PM

i dont think we are ready for anywhere else but Aus/NZ & UK&I/France. the next two cycles could really launch RL internationally. It would also yield the most profit which helps everyone grow. After that cycle you have to believe that more countries will have strengthened and developed so mayb 2025 would be the one to aim for away from the main established areas.

 

RU is only spreading their wings now. Japan still has a very wealthy and established RU set up. as good as league in England. 

 

we need to build on solid foundations. most importantly awarding the 2021 now you could keep a staff in place with good knowledge. it also would make sure we have maximum time to get decent tv coverage.




#2833668 16/11/13 - World Cup QF3: England v France (Wigan, KO 8pm)

Posted by IM2 on 12 November 2013 - 06:24 PM

France will be better than you think. they were hamstrung by their halfs getting mugged by a bunch of thugs last night and i am sure chevy chase and virtu field would have struggled under that as well. against england they will be allowed to play better so i think they will be better. not saying they will win but i suspect 32 - 8 or similar with a good first 30.


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#2825341 SKOLARS ANNOUNCE WIGAN AS CAPITAL CHALLENGE OPPONENTS

Posted by IM2 on 03 November 2013 - 01:13 AM

yeah thought that myself. one more job to do.