Union could survive without the ABs, yes. But would they be drawing 60k in the US and 80k in Italy? Less likely. Would the RUWC have gone from strength to strength? Again, unlikely. Barca is different again. So many people are so keen on football already, they'd just latch onto another team if Barca didn't exist.
ok but are you saying we cant survive without oz. seems we get around 20k when the kiwis play over here for a series. its not like we are getting 60k when oz comes its more like 25/30k. to me we should be aiming for the 60k and the only way you do that is a meaningful international structure with history and a WC as the pinnacle that everyone wants to win. i bet if you asked the aussies SOO or WC there wouldnt even be a debate.