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Well yes, it is hard to imagine the figures would be greater once the away fans were subtracted.

Sorry for the delay,I popped down to see the boys at training last night.It was good to see the boys again in action on the field,I took notice especially of seeing Leon(price)working his magic with the lads.I was impressed with his forthright approach when then they were doing their training,mainly his attitude when anyone of them started to flag abit.I noticed he was very amiable when the lads are doing has he had told them but,if anyone was trying to hide,he certainly let them know.Anyway,a good turnout for the coach especially from the travellers, it was good to see tansey out there, and to be honest he didn't miss a beat,he certainly looked a bit trimmer than a few weeks ago,so maybe we might see tansey back to somewhat a bit better on the park.I also noticed that Leatherbarrow was in attendance and, our hopefully starman fui fui moi moi also doing his bit.i was really pleased to see big Tom back in training,and he looked has though he had never been away,welcome back Tom,finally, overall i was really pleased with the attitude of the boys last night and,with a full squad including our ex toronto hooker nearly ready for to come back,we will have a very good squad to show their prowess and give us supporters something to be happy to watch on Derwent park with a big pack in full flow..

I think 4000k would be an amazing achievement in any sport!

Forgive me for posting something positive about last night, but.....

Another classic from the South Leeds book of fables & myths.

You seem to forget that these are OUR competitions and you are guests that participate within them, if they are essentially as you say "fun trips" for the M62 supporters what of it, have those who follow their teams week in week out not deserving of the diversity from the norm if they should wish to attend. Perhaps, as some would like to think that the Rugby League world is now centered in the upper reaches of North America and after less than 18 months of partcipation the game should change to accomodate and appease those new teams even yet to be formulated, it will not happen. TWP are doing well and good luck to them for it, but, that is how it should remain for a good period of time whilst the experiment is monitered and learned from, only fool hardy buisness people are tempted to produce more of the same product until the original has been thourougly evaluated.

There was a few frustrating moments from the officials last night, for both sides i thought, he seemed to penalise everything for 10 minutes then let everything go for 10 minutes. I was quite relieved to not be behind by at least 3 scores at half time, but we ground "shakey" down in the 2nd half, once the likes of Fifita, pauli etc ran out of steam and realised they couldn't bully Brough, Mamo etc they spat their dummies out, in the end i was disappointed we didn't win by more than 10 points, it could have riled Wakey for next week but we will see. The most ironic thing about last night was Wakefield fans singing about our support not being particularly good, this from a club who last year averaged 700 less than us , despite having a far better season, a club whose biggest gate was 1,500 less than our biggest gate and whose lowest crowd was 800 lower than our lowest crowd, and this season they average 1,000 less than we are, despite them supposedly being a "top 4" team in the making. All 150 of us couldn't stop laughing at that

Won’t have much of an impact for Catalans if playing for Toulouse.

I doubt it. But it just goes to show how the core support for those two clubs has reached unsustainable low levels. Hard as it might be, although RL will always have a presence in both Widnes and Huddersfield there seems little reason to be enthusiastic about them being in Super League any more.

I'm sure Mr H will have sorted out the running of the good ship Roughyeds while he takes time off. Don't know who is stepping into the hotseat and frankly I ain't that bothered, Mr H's health is more important than worrying about who is taking charge, it will all be sorted and I'm sure who ever is dealing with the day to day stuff will do a fine job.

Two clubs who will be among the losers as we expand beyond the M62.

There is no argument they attract fans, reporting, match attendees and TV all confirm that. There's many examples of union and other sports 'professionalising' and failing to attract crowds, there's much more to it than that. TWP are in a much stronger position than these new and potential clubs. If all argyle wanted was his club in super league he could have bought one. Wonder why they gave Ngawati a contract and are so supporting local rugby if they have 'no care' for Canadians?!

This wasn't a positive showing by either set of fans - this is the Leeds end about 15 mins before kick off - it did fill up a little more afterwards. Yes, Leeds fans don't travel particularly well (there are altogether too many who claim to be the biggest fans ever but aren't there when we are in a rut); but the real problem here rests, sadly, with Widnes. I don't think Betts being coach helps and I don't think the stadium in its current format helps. I remember Naughton Park in the glory days; now it just seems permanently empty and soulless and sad, like a lottery winner has scrubbed up his semi into a mansion but still just uses one bedroom and the kitchen. Betts is just about good enough to not get them relegated but not good enough to be the sort of coach who takes a substandard squad and makes them achieve more than the sum of their parts. It's hard outside the club to know what is going on administratively - they seem to make the right noises in social engagement etc. But sometimes the headwinds are just too strong to cut through. What's the point of watching Widnes nowadays? In the world of Rugby League jeopardy they are too bad to give fans hope but too good to make fans fear.

Says a lot for the game at the moment when 4000k is classed as a positive. Total of 10,625 for 4 games including 6 SL clubs is a serious issue, and it's sending out a terrible image for the game. I fear lots more embarrassing moments for the game this year with 1/4 full stadium in denver and a possible sub 60k at Wembley.

+1. I just bought one to support the match and Rugby League expansion in the USA.

He got found out in his 2nd season with Wigan as well. No doubt the Kiwis will start off like a house on fire with him, but when they become predictable he will be under pressure to let them play their natural style.

I really don’t know anymore. I’m the wrong person to entice as I’ll be there regardless. The general concencus is the fans don’t seem to like the CEO or coach. Now for the CEO to leave somebody needs to either buy him out (as he owns a share of the company) or he leaves and takes the money out of the club - which would probably see us on the brink of going under. I do think Betts has done well with the money at his disposal but that’s only one part. Our game plan is predictable, so is his team selections. We have a lot of young lads knocking on the door who have proven themselves worthy. But as soon as established players become available they go straight in. He either needs to change these philosophies to get some of the crowd back onside (probably too late for this) or move on. That may provide a bit of an uplift in crowds but the new coach will need some good results and quickly. The downward spiral has been going on for a few seasons. We started like a house on fire a couple of years back and had a top of the table clash at a sold out Warrington. We took more fans there than attended the last two challenge cup games at home. As soon as Warrington beat us that day the rot set in

With you 100% on that comment snapski and I am one of those who stand in the middle of it on the popular end at the LSV, I spend a lot of time interpreting the referees decision for those who only see their own teams colours, but please give me an example of any club who's supporters are not of the same ilk and collectivley boo nearly every decision that goes against them?

It was entertaining and played in a good spirit with little nonsense going on. There was the odd outbreak of gamesmanship but a lot less than we see most weeks.

Magnificent effort from Leigh - full credit to them. What a turnaround over the last few weeks. More to come perhaps as the season rolls on.

Good job it was not on TV. That is absolutely diabolical.

Leigh 22-10 Salford FT. Totally deserved. Salford were outplayed, in truth.

the question has to be why are clubs using DR when playing sure win expansion club competition ? surely game time and winning pay should be rewarded to signed players or even signed fringe players ?

The cross on the chest is awful. International RL shirts should have chevrons. Im a Wire fan - and have no issue with it 'looking' like saints. Have a double chevron like the Kangaroos if not a single one like saints.

I'm seeing a lot of these "one of the big boys in SL got rattled" comments as some kind of argument about why people are upset with "little old Fev". Let's clear this up. Hull had the game won already. They were well up. They also had a few out before the game and picked up three injuries during it. Despite this, the result was never in doubt. There was no rattling involved when it came to the actual competitiveness of the game. If you're talking about in terms of physicality, well if that's how you respond when you're being beaten and that's what makes you proud, it explains why the side is where it is. It's not the 80s. Thuggish tactics have no part in the game anymore and I'm gutted Fairamo put his stupidity hat on at the end. No Hull fans are celebrating that, yet it seems a lot of Fev fans are proud of what those tactics achieved.