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Well yes, it is hard to imagine the figures would be greater once the away fans were subtracted.

That's what I love about Workington and Whitehaven,two communities that have fond feelings for each other.Just like us and Rochdale.?

If the Challenge Cup goes it's a serious nail in the coffin of RL in my opinion. It's the only competition that has free to air exposure and it produces great matches. If the fans aren't going, the RFL and the clubs need to do something to change that.

I think 4000k would be an amazing achievement in any sport!

Forgive me for posting something positive about last night, but.....

Another classic from the South Leeds book of fables & myths.

Sorry for the delay,I popped down to see the boys at training last night.It was good to see the boys again in action on the field,I took notice especially of seeing Leon(price)working his magic with the lads.I was impressed with his forthright approach when then they were doing their training,mainly his attitude when anyone of them started to flag abit.I noticed he was very amiable when the lads are doing has he had told them but,if anyone was trying to hide,he certainly let them know.Anyway,a good turnout for the coach especially from the travellers, it was good to see tansey out there, and to be honest he didn't miss a beat,he certainly looked a bit trimmer than a few weeks ago,so maybe we might see tansey back to somewhat a bit better on the park.I also noticed that Leatherbarrow was in attendance and, our hopefully starman fui fui moi moi also doing his bit.i was really pleased to see big Tom back in training,and he looked has though he had never been away,welcome back Tom,finally, overall i was really pleased with the attitude of the boys last night and,with a full squad including our ex toronto hooker nearly ready for to come back,we will have a very good squad to show their prowess and give us supporters something to be happy to watch on Derwent park with a big pack in full flow..

Would have given my right arm to have been over there with Town . Fair dos to them they acquited themselves well particularly first half , the difference in full and part time showing second half .

Embarrassing. Rugby really has become a diver's game.

Let's get this into context. They are not a Super League club and have been averaging about 3-3500 for most home matches. It's not like they played a team that would bring a huge contingent. The trend across the board is that CC matches are always LOWER than regular matches, because it's not included in the season ticket. Leigh have bucked that trend with this attendance, so please, tell me how that is not a positive.

You seem to forget that these are OUR competitions and you are guests that participate within them, if they are essentially as you say "fun trips" for the M62 supporters what of it, have those who follow their teams week in week out not deserving of the diversity from the norm if they should wish to attend. Perhaps, as some would like to think that the Rugby League world is now centered in the upper reaches of North America and after less than 18 months of partcipation the game should change to accomodate and appease those new teams even yet to be formulated, it will not happen. TWP are doing well and good luck to them for it, but, that is how it should remain for a good period of time whilst the experiment is monitered and learned from, only fool hardy buisness people are tempted to produce more of the same product until the original has been thourougly evaluated.

The key to any good team is the spine. A team with good players in the core positions in RL normally does well. You will find that with the successful Australian national teams and the Wigan teams in the 90s. The spine in RL is full back, the halves, loose forward and hooker. If France are going to close the gap between them and the top 3, they must establish which young players NOW will form that spine between now and the 2021 World Cup. Two of those players, I have admired over the past year are Anthony Marion and Mickael Goudemand. Both players are great team players with really good core skills, vision and leadership qualities. Goudemand made his debut today for the Dragons scoring two tries and I would love to see much more of him in SL this season. Marion continues to play well for TO. These are the guys along with Fages, Albert and Miloudi that will help France close the gap between them and the top three. That's potentially a really strong spine of a team that can develop in the next few years.

People talk about the old days with rose tinted glasses. I have never seen a game pre the mid 80's that wasnt a frantic mess. Yes this is an iconic game and a big part of our history. But its not a good game by any stretch. Knock the modern game all you like but if you could transport one of those sides through time to play a current team, 144-0 would be beaten with 20 minutes to spare. I know you can only be the best of your era and lots of things have changed since those days. But for the flaws the modern game has, its still a much better sport to watch now.

Against Wakefield, but not Leeds, no siree, not Leeds.

A quick view on Percival and his 'obstructions'. I think he is very clever. He sees the kick go up and then checks his fb's position. He knows where the attacking winger is and puts himself in a direct line early. He then stays there. The winger is focused on the ball to judge his tackle on the fb and runs into Percival. He doesn't step into the fb's line at the last second, so it's not obstruction, but the fb is blocked either way. Very clever. Or very well judged. IMO.

And the way they go on about our slope is unbelievable. Its as if you can't play up a slope. Too many commentators at Sky talking tripe and pinching wages.

Nice Wolfpack feature at halftime today on BBC. I'm sure that will tick some people off.

From top to bottom since the 888 was introduced the quality of the sport has plunged. The old status quo has returned with a vengeance and clubs in the middle are stuck there with no real way of challenging the top 6, by the time recruitment can be settled the best players have already got their deals sorted leaving scraps for the rest And just like when we had P&R before teams yo-yo up and down Worst of all, barring am horrific injury list, young players stop getting game time, and uninspiring journeyman get their place instead...just like used to happen 888 system has failed to improve the game, moreover it's taken us backwards in my opinion As for Salford, they have their fortune in their own hands, the teams they need to beat to stay in the top 8 are home games for them, but they are all 4 pointers.

got to stamp down on all this cheating and pretending to be injured it's embarrassing .

Biggest for me is l. briscoe being called Burgess 5 times. We're the others frightened of highlighting error

There was a few frustrating moments from the officials last night, for both sides i thought, he seemed to penalise everything for 10 minutes then let everything go for 10 minutes. I was quite relieved to not be behind by at least 3 scores at half time, but we ground "shakey" down in the 2nd half, once the likes of Fifita, pauli etc ran out of steam and realised they couldn't bully Brough, Mamo etc they spat their dummies out, in the end i was disappointed we didn't win by more than 10 points, it could have riled Wakey for next week but we will see. The most ironic thing about last night was Wakefield fans singing about our support not being particularly good, this from a club who last year averaged 700 less than us , despite having a far better season, a club whose biggest gate was 1,500 less than our biggest gate and whose lowest crowd was 800 lower than our lowest crowd, and this season they average 1,000 less than we are, despite them supposedly being a "top 4" team in the making. All 150 of us couldn't stop laughing at that

Won’t have much of an impact for Catalans if playing for Toulouse.

I doubt it. But it just goes to show how the core support for those two clubs has reached unsustainable low levels. Hard as it might be, although RL will always have a presence in both Widnes and Huddersfield there seems little reason to be enthusiastic about them being in Super League any more.

I'm sure Mr H will have sorted out the running of the good ship Roughyeds while he takes time off. Don't know who is stepping into the hotseat and frankly I ain't that bothered, Mr H's health is more important than worrying about who is taking charge, it will all be sorted and I'm sure who ever is dealing with the day to day stuff will do a fine job.

Two clubs who will be among the losers as we expand beyond the M62.

There is no argument they attract fans, reporting, match attendees and TV all confirm that. There's many examples of union and other sports 'professionalising' and failing to attract crowds, there's much more to it than that. TWP are in a much stronger position than these new and potential clubs. If all argyle wanted was his club in super league he could have bought one. Wonder why they gave Ngawati a contract and are so supporting local rugby if they have 'no care' for Canadians?!

If you've ever been to Amsterdam, you'll have seen more than a few hoe downs

I saw France during the World Cup. I thought their skill level was good but without any real size they can not compete in the modern game. There is a natural flair in their DNA but what they lack is size and punch up front.

Morris dancers? As a substitute for the haka

It's a difficult one for me, I hate the DR system but I like the loan system. I also feel for the lads Coming in, especially Nzoungou as he has played for more clubs than most do in a career

I think what is even more encouraging is the fact that there is beginning to be real competition for places. Escare/Miloudi at full back without even mentioning the guy who played for them in the WC.

Amber and black hoops , like the heritage kit that sold out PDQ for the Cat's cup game.

Some dodgy decisions and a bit of bad luck. But Saints decent value for the win overall. Could be a tough few months with Gale out. Ellis is dire, his kicking game, or lack of it was a huge factor. Didn't threaten once on the last tackle. His defence is appalling. Need Eden back too to provide a genuine wide threat, instead of centres on the wing or championship standard wingers like Hitchcox. All that said we are massively unbalanced by not having a decent full back. We have tried 2 half backs and a centre so far to no avail. I think this season is going to be about maintaining top 8 and recruitment for next year. Top draw full back, centre and winger required desperately.

Fans aren't as interested now a days because it's the same teams getting to Wembley every year from about 6 teams, its boring and too predictable.

Again, CONTEXT. Did you make that ridiculous comment also when York got a 4k crowd at the start of the season?

Accrington stanley?

There are a lot problems with the challenge cup that will probably need quite drastic changes to fix. As a competition it has no flow, no momentum, the big sides will only have 1 or 2 competitive games, the smaller SL sides see it as a distraction from staying up rather than a chance for silverware. It generally offers nothing we don't see more and better at other times of the season. When we are celebrating a 4k crowd something is severely wrong.

Has Percival got incriminating photos of James Child?

They didn’t win promotion to get in there in the first place

That was excellent. Note perfect. Sympathetic without being mawkish.

But but but. We have to make allowances for these heartland clubs. The sooner Toronto and Toulouse are in Super League the better.

Fantastic evening, privelage. Well done to all involved and nice to see the first team well represented. The commerative replica shirts are available in the club shop from 10:30-2:30. Full range of sizes from small to 4xl. Priced at £49.

He got found out in his 2nd season with Wigan as well. No doubt the Kiwis will start off like a house on fire with him, but when they become predictable he will be under pressure to let them play their natural style.

Yes. They played last week. They drew 1 400 spectators in their debut game.

I really don’t know anymore. I’m the wrong person to entice as I’ll be there regardless. The general concencus is the fans don’t seem to like the CEO or coach. Now for the CEO to leave somebody needs to either buy him out (as he owns a share of the company) or he leaves and takes the money out of the club - which would probably see us on the brink of going under. I do think Betts has done well with the money at his disposal but that’s only one part. Our game plan is predictable, so is his team selections. We have a lot of young lads knocking on the door who have proven themselves worthy. But as soon as established players become available they go straight in. He either needs to change these philosophies to get some of the crowd back onside (probably too late for this) or move on. That may provide a bit of an uplift in crowds but the new coach will need some good results and quickly. The downward spiral has been going on for a few seasons. We started like a house on fire a couple of years back and had a top of the table clash at a sold out Warrington. We took more fans there than attended the last two challenge cup games at home. As soon as Warrington beat us that day the rot set in

With you 100% on that comment snapski and I am one of those who stand in the middle of it on the popular end at the LSV, I spend a lot of time interpreting the referees decision for those who only see their own teams colours, but please give me an example of any club who's supporters are not of the same ilk and collectivley boo nearly every decision that goes against them?

It was entertaining and played in a good spirit with little nonsense going on. There was the odd outbreak of gamesmanship but a lot less than we see most weeks.

the question has to be why are clubs using DR when playing sure win expansion club competition ? surely game time and winning pay should be rewarded to signed players or even signed fringe players ?

I'm seeing a lot of these "one of the big boys in SL got rattled" comments as some kind of argument about why people are upset with "little old Fev". Let's clear this up. Hull had the game won already. They were well up. They also had a few out before the game and picked up three injuries during it. Despite this, the result was never in doubt. There was no rattling involved when it came to the actual competitiveness of the game. If you're talking about in terms of physicality, well if that's how you respond when you're being beaten and that's what makes you proud, it explains why the side is where it is. It's not the 80s. Thuggish tactics have no part in the game anymore and I'm gutted Fairamo put his stupidity hat on at the end. No Hull fans are celebrating that, yet it seems a lot of Fev fans are proud of what those tactics achieved.

I went to that with my mate, we were fourteen at the time. The train fare from Pontefract to Kings Cross and Wembley return was 29 shillings with four shillings to get in.