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pahars

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  1. So considering England have averaged around 30,000 for games against Samoa x2, France, Greece and PNG this tournament at top prices, where would you hold a three test series against Aus or NZ?
  2. Mate you keep on saying it deserved a full house in the heartlands despite the fact that the heartlands hasn’t been close to a full house all tournament…. and where in the heartlands would you hold it? Manchester has the final. Anfield didn’t seemingly want in and would leave you two consecutive north west big games to sell on top of the numerous group games. Yorkshire has no stadium that can fit 40,000.
  3. There is the perfect opportunity for a four nations in England next year. Revenge match vs Samoa and the Kangaroos and the Kiwis. We’ve had 40,000 outside the heartlands for Samoa twice and 28,000 for Oz v NZ so it’s clearly a tournament that could sell …. It’ll never happen
  4. I don’t think it was that bad an attendance at all. Firstly the London casual sports fan sees Australia and New Zealand as big rugby games and wouldn’t see Samoa in the same way- especially after we battered them in the first game. Secondly having Aus v NZ a few hours before in the heartlands probably meant a few thousand fewer northern travelling fans. Ultimately getting 40,000+ twice outside the heartlands for games against Samoa is a great result.
  5. Fair point. I was referring to those who weren’t already and just fancied watching something different in their stadium. There is bound to be a bit of pushback at the 1st non football event in the stadium - whatever the sport was.
  6. I’m sure some Arsenal fans will give it a go and love our game for life. No point in worrying about those who are too closed minded to even try.
  7. Over 350,000 now across the three events with a capacity around 150,000 left to go.
  8. We can let you have biggest non-final attendance not involving the hosts I think
  9. Sorry was following convo in thread and didn’t realise that I had posted that ^ in positivity thread till I had driven home. Here is something positive: we are on track for a 30,000 England average against Samoa x 2, France, Greece and PNG. I reckon that about 98% of FA’S worldwide would give their eye teeth for those attendances against their equivalent opponents.
  10. The three tournaments format should stay the same for France 2025 for two main reasons. Firstly as posters have noted as the men’s tournament moves in to weekend knockout matches it gives an opportunity for daily broadcasts of rugby league games. Secondly it’s a year after the Paris Olympics and Paralympics so the French audience will be at their most receptive to the combination and political will for a ‘legacy’ will be at its highest. While it’s unlikely that there will be too many Men’s and Women’s games in Paris I would have thought there would be a great opportunity to recreate the current London vibe in a Paris arena for the Wheelchair event. Beyond that it becomes a wee bit tricky as both the women’s and wheelchair events should grow in numbers and therefore in length which would put them in competition with the men’s group games. Will we ever really be big enough as a sport to cannibalise our market and have ‘press red button’ content?
  11. Serie A has shrunk. 30,000 average 20 years ago around 25,000 now. Juve have built and Milan and Inter soon will build stadiums 20,000 smaller then before to hide it.
  12. Correct generally I think. The only time we dropped below 40k to 35k was on a Sunday and there seemed to be fewer Northerners who travelled.
  13. I don’t think so. In fact I think it was the rationale for having the Aussie game in 2016 on a Sunday to avoid it.
  14. The four London events in 2011,2013,2015 & 2016 averaged 47k so above that would be good.
  15. So you take the 3,000+ that are currently watching games and add in 3,000+ that are in town and fancy watching something else and you sell out the Copper Box. This gives great publicity for Wheelchair Rugby League and the game in general. As well as a stronger platform for stand alone wheelchair games around the country. I’m not suggesting to constantly have all the different internationals in the same city but to build on this World Cup with a one off or at most annual festival type event.
  16. It’s not pointless as you are making out like everyone would be expected to go to more then one game for it to work. If only about 10% of the men’s crowd also watch the wheelchair game then that would currently be a world record crowd and that is clearly better then they are managing as an individual part. I think far from being unambitious it’s a mini-Olympic/Paralympic sport festival and could be portrayed as such.
  17. I’m not sure I am overestimating. If out of say 40,000 for a men’s game in London, 5,000 want to watch a women’s game and 5,000 want to watch a wheelchair game then that’s great crowds for the latter two. With regard to your second point. we can’t just stop making decisions around cost and stop getting bids from cities because this World Cup hasn’t worked.
  18. You could do that with this system. Women’s in small stadium, men’s in bigger stadium, wheelchair in arena. All in the same city so people could attend all games or one or two if they choose. Reduces marketing costs and could get cities buying in as both ticks diversity and inclusion boxes and brings events to more then one venue.
  19. No. I was just using examples of a one day event where people could walk from venue to venue with a fan zone in between. You could hold it across a weekend in lots of places and Birmingham is a great city with great sports facilities
  20. With Wheelchair RL catching the imagination, the women’s game becoming more popular and Adam Hill’s promoting PDRL could combining all the England family together in future for a magic type event work well? Examples could be a England mens and England womens afternoon double header at London Stadium/ Etihad Stadium followed by a night time England wheelchair game in the Copper box/ Manchester regional arena sports hall. Both these venues have room for a fan village and a smaller athletics track with spectator facilities so a PDRL international could also happen in the morning as people start arriving.
  21. As long as the French government has pre paid the staging fee and the FFRXII just has to put bums on seats them I’m fairly confident about 2025. A couple of group games in places that RL has got 7k plus fairly recently and in the afterglow of the olympics and the other lot’s thing would give you: Toulouse, Perpignan, Albi, Carcassonne, Montpellier and Avignon. The first five are far enough apart to not saturate the market but not too far that they couldn’t share training facilities/accommodation.
  22. Nah I don’t buy that. In 2013 Huddersfield got 24k for a game, Warrington 14k, even places like Halifax and Rochdale got sell outs. You don’t have to be in Mayfair to attract casual fans or general sports fans to an event. But the event does have to capture their imagination.
  23. My original unedited post said ‘quarter finals onward’ pal. I’m a bit baffled what your point is regarding the QF’s, as the regular RL audience having more money and a positive attitude plus a smidgeon of an event crowd surely validates what I was saying?
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