johnmatrix

Miners are down in the prem. Dews moor too likely down but could have a lot to say in who joins them. Having looked at the fixtures lock lane and mayfield have to travel to moor whilst moor lost both fixtures away the scores were close. York, hunslet and thatto could yet be dragged into the battle to stay up.

As a haven fan, clayton friend was brilliant, bit it's got to be David slSeeds

The girls have regional leagues(yorks/lancs/cumbria). The prem teams play fixtures across all 3, the teams in Yorkshire definitely played as my 2 nieces had games. 1 plays in the prem and they were traveling to the North East to play

The women's final no doubt would be improved if the rfl didn't have the girls playing a full round of league fixtures on cup final day.

Those playing in aus need to be in. Whitfield went well today

The team should have a load in, how many of saints team would get in wigans?

I agree he shouldn't be the coach, no doubt it will be full of his favs though, they won't win in the next world cup. They definitely won't win with the people who have failed before. Stick the young ones in and let them get the experience they need. If we lose by 70/80/90 then so be it, the ones he played in vegas did that. The game has and is moving on, the next generation of players are coming thru and that's who needs to go with

I thought he said some of the experienced players may still be in and around, I could only half here it tho so may have missed heard. The squad should be full of the young exciting players, the old guard showed in vegas they are miles off what's required

No problem, we had 5 nights in vegas, flew from Heathrow to Los Angeles and then a connecting flight to vegas, way back was vegas to chicago back to Heathrow. Tbf a few of my mates got it cheaper than we did. I'd definitely get there for the Freemont street stuff on the Thursday tho that was a brilliant day/night.

That looks expensive to me, I went this year and for me and the Mrs it was a tad over £1600 in total for the flights and hotel. I booked it myself so didn't go thru either club

I'd be surprised if it works. The mirifleld set up is poor, Mirfield don't have many jnrs either.

How much do they generate?

Yes. The bigger clubs average 7 to 8k attendance I think. And the league average is 3 to 4k

It's looks more like everyone else has quit Irish RL and the longhorns are carrying it

Starting new teams in places with no history of rl or very little, with next to no community/amateur teams and without access to the best/most experienced players is doomed to fail and pointless. The weaker Heartland clubs struggle and that's with access to all of the above. Its Madness that we repeat the same thing over and over again.

It's pie in the sky stuff, theres not enough money in the game and not enough money generated by the women's game to support it. The women's super league needs to be smaller not bigger, there's not enough talent to support it as it is. Focus on growing the jnr game and building a wider pyramid. A bigger catchment of players will likely increase the potential to have a bitter quality of athlete. Foc

I don't know I'm not involved at the giants.

The community clubs are driving the growth of the game, not the women's sl set ups.

I guess they haven't the volunteers to do it. These teams are in essence community level sides, most barely a few years old without a big volunteer basis. The ladies teams based out of the hig ncl clubs have better coverage. But they'll have an army of volunteers on which to call, sadly these teams don't.

It's all done a shoestring budget and many will be volunteering to do it. Whilst it's annoying things aren't bang on all the time , they're basically a local amateur team affiliated to a men's super league team for box ticking. There is literally zero money In the women's game so to expect nrl levels of media presence is frankly ridiculous

The playing numbers at jnr level need to go up and they have done so, probably not enough at the moment but any increase will do. Once these girls filter thru in a few years the standard will increase naturally. Some of the players currently playing now in womens super league have had it very easy in terms of competing for a shirt as the playing pool has been so small.

I was meaning the league would be better pooling funding etc to fund a new team. I know the clubs wouldn't do it tho. Leeds, York, Wigan and saints are the 4 elite teams. I would pool together the rest of the players and finances in the game to develop a 5th team which in turn would create more elite pathways for the girls to advance. I don't see the point of every team mens club trying to create a women's sl team in the short term the playing depth isn't able to support that. It's box ticking. Leigh miners and many other amateur clubs are doing a fantastic job in creating teams and pathways for young players to thrive. I don't know much about leigh but my amateur club have done it with little to no help from the rfl. Not all players will be good enough to play women's sl, so the pyramid across the board needs to be bigger.

There's not enough talent about, they need to probably direct talent and funding to a 5th team to make the top end stronger and then hope within a couple of years they can add a 6th competitive side

They need to start somewhere, but increasing participation will be the biggest factor in closing that gap. But that's 10yrs of development away so it's not a short term fix. I mentioned on another thread that the next gen are certainly more skilled in the basics and that will hopefully close the gap a touch when they get a chance to play. Long term a semi professional league would be nice, but the finances just aren't there and likely not for the foreseeable.

Ncl budgets would be tiny, physio/bus/training facilities etc but it's horses for courses ncl teams/clubs are providing way more than just 1 team, they all have jnr sections many have women/girls sections. Most are community hubs which provide other things that just rl. Many ncl clubs will turnover 100s of thousands a year but that money will be poured into coaching development/facilities/jnr teams etc. Most League 1 clubs would love to have the membership numbers of the big juggernauts of the ncl.