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I put together a summary of the season. For any in the know about the women's season, please let me have your opinion. 

https://rugbyl.blogspot.com/2021/10/womens-sl-season-2021.html

I was a bit slow getting it out but will do better for the knock out series. 

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On 10/10/2021 at 01:03, RayCee said:

I put together a summary of the season. For any in the know about the women's season, please let me have your opinion. 

https://rugbyl.blogspot.com/2021/10/womens-sl-season-2021.html

I was a bit slow getting it out but will do better for the knock out series. 

Before the RFL decide to retain a 10-team competition with the same format for next year, I imagine they will want to assess any moves made by the clubs.

A full round robin, followed by split into 2 groups of 5, then semis and GF, means a maximum of 15 games, minimum of 13.

If that`s what they stick with, I wouldn`t get worried about some lop-sided scores in the first part of the season. Those games allow the better teams to open up and hone their attacking game while the losing teams can still gain from the experience if they have the right attitude, which generally is the case in women`s RL. I saw video of a few Wakefield games this year, and they provided plenty to admire despite the heavy defeats.

Will any bottom 5 WSL clubs emulate York and recruit heavily in a bid to challenge for top 5?

Will any clubs outside WSL seek promotion? The Championship GF was between Leigh Miners and Barrow. Both teams looked roughly about the standard of Wakefield.

Could either Hull FC or Hull KR transform their current squads to give Humberside a WSL presence?

Salford announced yesterday the launch of a women`s team, though with no indication of which division they are aiming to play in.

And further in relation to geographic reach, there`s the prospect of Cardiff Demons joining WSL North. If they are capable of competing at a higher level, there`s little value in the Demons again putting 80-100 points on the Golden Ferns and Cornish Rebels in the Western Conference of WSL South.

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On 12/10/2021 at 14:49, unapologetic pedant said:

Before the RFL decide to retain a 10-team competition with the same format for next year, I imagine they will want to assess any moves made by the clubs.

A full round robin, followed by split into 2 groups of 5, then semis and GF, means a maximum of 15 games, minimum of 13.

If that`s what they stick with, I wouldn`t get worried about some lop-sided scores in the first part of the season. Those games allow the better teams to open up and hone their attacking game while the losing teams can still gain from the experience if they have the right attitude, which generally is the case in women`s RL. I saw video of a few Wakefield games this year, and they provided plenty to admire despite the heavy defeats.

Will any bottom 5 WSL clubs emulate York and recruit heavily in a bid to challenge for top 5?

Will any clubs outside WSL seek promotion? The Championship GF was between Leigh Miners and Barrow. Both teams looked roughly about the standard of Wakefield.

Could either Hull FC or Hull KR transform their current squads to give Humberside a WSL presence?

Salford announced yesterday the launch of a women`s team, though with no indication of which division they are aiming to play in.

And further in relation to geographic reach, there`s the prospect of Cardiff Demons joining WSL North. If they are capable of competing at a higher level, there`s little value in the Demons again putting 80-100 points on the Golden Ferns and Cornish Rebels in the Western Conference of WSL South.

Excellent summary UP. 🙂 I learned quite a bit more about something I'm trying to play catch up with.

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I've done two more articles about the women's game in the UK which will wrap up the season.

https://rugbyl.blogspot.com/2021/10/womens-finals-round-up-2021.html

https://rugbyl.blogspot.com/2021/10/womens-uk-rugby-league-history.html

 

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11 hours ago, Swansea Jack said:

I really enjoyed the Women's Final. An excellent game in a good atmosphere and crowd. Th joy and emotion at the end was good to see. 

 

I will be supporting the Cardiff devils next season. And of course the Raiders.

The Cardiff team won a fine final against the army IIRC. I did watch the highlights a while back. Cracking game.

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3 hours ago, RayCee said:

If you`re interested, I first started paying attention to women`s RL in 2017. I serendipitously happened upon an Aussie TV item about the Jillaroos/Kiwi Ferns test in Canberra. Back then, there wasn`t much info around. 

I remember a bit of coverage of Bradford`s successful season that year. Some of their best players were signed by Leeds for 2018, including Lois Forsell (now coach at Leeds). Bradford have never been as strong since, but they`ve remained competitive, similar to Cas battling away this year after they lost key players to York.

This is vital to sustainable progress. In women`s RL (most noticeable in NZ and France), there has been a tendency for teams to come and go. Club support isn`t necessarily reliable, so apparently stable ventures have collapsed when they lose a number of players (to injury, retirement, Rugger, work commitments, disenchantment). Those wishing to continue playing then have to start all over again somewhere else.

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5 hours ago, unapologetic pedant said:

If you`re interested, I first started paying attention to women`s RL in 2017. I serendipitously happened upon an Aussie TV item about the Jillaroos/Kiwi Ferns test in Canberra. Back then, there wasn`t much info around. 

I remember a bit of coverage of Bradford`s successful season that year. Some of their best players were signed by Leeds for 2018, including Lois Forsell (now coach at Leeds). Bradford have never been as strong since, but they`ve remained competitive, similar to Cas battling away this year after they lost key players to York.

This is vital to sustainable progress. In women`s RL (most noticeable in NZ and France), there has been a tendency for teams to come and go. Club support isn`t necessarily reliable, so apparently stable ventures have collapsed when they lose a number of players (to injury, retirement, Rugger, work commitments, disenchantment). Those wishing to continue playing then have to start all over again somewhere else.

I noticed Bradford won the treble in 2017 and then fell away sharply! I assumed there was a movement of players or retirements.

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Well done to Leeds Rhinos coach Lois Forsell for not making excuses because they never mentioned once that they had 8 top line players out injured and most of them England Internationals. 
Heard a rumour a former women of steel is joining the Rhinos for 2022.

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4 hours ago, BroncoFan said:

Well done to Leeds Rhinos coach Lois Forsell for not making excuses because they never mentioned once that they had 8 top line players out injured and most of them England Internationals. 
Heard a rumour a former women of steel is joining the Rhinos for 2022.

If that`s true, Cas have already lost Shona Hoyle, as mentioned up the page.

Hard to divine what the attitude of the club is to their women`s team. There`s possibly a shake-up on the cards in that part of the world. It`s a bit congested with Cas, Fev and Wakey all in WSL.

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There seems to be a fair amount of movement with players. Are the better ones looking to be in a more competitive team? Some sides are getting well beaten and I suppose that a good player in one of those sides may be tempted to take an offer from a winning club. 

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37 minutes ago, RayCee said:

There seems to be a fair amount of movement with players. Are the better ones looking to be in a more competitive team? Some sides are getting well beaten and I suppose that a good player in one of those sides may be tempted to take an offer from a winning club. 

If my previous post was a little cryptic, I`m assuming the player to whom @BroncoFan was alluding is Georgia Roche, who`s the main playmaker at Cas. This in addition to losing Shona Hoyle. Plus the coach and several key players to York earlier in the year. At this rate, there`s a danger Cas could be viewed by the rest of their squad as a sinking ship. Unless the club do something to signal the women`s team is a priority.

In Oz this year, Helensburgh Tigers open-age team left the Illawarra division to play in the NSWRL premiership. They were competitive, but only because they fielded two of the best players in the world in Kezie Apps and Jessica Sergis. It was announced yesterday that both had signed to Wests Tigers for next year. Doubtful now whether it`s wise for Helensburgh to continue in the top comp.

All this underlines my opening gambit that the RFL would do well to wait for the dust to settle on player movements before deciding on structures for next year.

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6 hours ago, unapologetic pedant said:

If my previous post was a little cryptic, I`m assuming the player to whom @BroncoFan was alluding is Georgia Roche, who`s the main playmaker at Cas. This in addition to losing Shona Hoyle. Plus the coach and several key players to York earlier in the year. At this rate, there`s a danger Cas could be viewed by the rest of their squad as a sinking ship. Unless the club do something to signal the women`s team is a priority

TBH, the initial movement to York from Cas seemed to be fuelled by the feeling that the women's team was not being looked after very well.

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