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Poll: Wigan Warriors v Warrington Wolves (22 member(s) have cast votes)

Who will win?

  1. Wigan (11 votes [50.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 50.00%

  2. Warrington (8 votes [36.36%])

    Percentage of vote: 36.36%

  3. Draw (3 votes [13.64%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.64%

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#121 Hannibal

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 12:11 PM

QUOTE (Wilderspoolmemories @ Jul 18 2010, 01:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well where there is no sense there is no feeling I suppose! laugh.gif

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#122 Hannibal

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 12:11 PM

QUOTE (3owls @ Jul 18 2010, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anybody that posts in text that size is an insecure attention seeker. How old are you, 6 or 7 ?

I would enter into a battle of wits with you, but sadly, you are unarmed.



#123 1976PMJwires

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 12:23 PM

QUOTE (Hannibal @ Jul 18 2010, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would enter into a battle of wits with you, but sadly, you are unarmed.


you can't go to battle against a half wit tongue.gif

#124 Exiled Wiganer

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 03:16 PM

I like that.
That's enough grumping on this for mine. There were the usual taps and over zealous behaviour on both sides. Joel is becoming a stroppy liability imho, but I would defend him to the hilt against any opposition fans suggesting that. Morley is dirty but clever about it these days and makes the most of his "icon" status. I watched Hanley plaey for Wigan for a number of years and wasn't complaining then.
For mine, the game highlighted the reality with Wigan. We have individual gaps which collective endeavour can usually but not always compensate for, and so our one chance of winning something is the Minor Premiership. Next year's recruitment looks completely on the mark to me in that respect.
For the Wire, I genuinely wonder whether putting so much into this game will best serve their interests. To win their next 7 games will be a very tall order. If they do so they deserve to be ranked with the great teams in TGG. Intriguing times.

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 03:51 PM

gmr phone in could be fun as jack dearden starts asking why 'the walk' started with 8 to go on friday!
foxes or poor people?

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 04:28 PM

QUOTE (sam @ Jul 18 2010, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
gmr phone in could be fun as jack dearden starts asking why 'the walk' started with 8 to go on friday!

Another guy who seems to think that it is more important who walks out than who walks in.

Just check the average attendances this season, and then explain why more people walk out of Wigan early, than walk into Wire at all.

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 04:35 PM

good effort ron. well dialled!
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Posted 18 July 2010 - 04:35 PM

QUOTE (Hannibal @ Jul 18 2010, 06:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Another guy who seems to think that it is more important who walks out than who walks in.

Just check the average attendances this season, and then explain why more people walk out of Wigan early, than walk into Wire at all.


do i?
foxes or poor people?

#129 1976PMJwires

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 04:39 PM

QUOTE (Hannibal @ Jul 18 2010, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Another guy who seems to think that it is more important who walks out than who walks in.

Just check the average attendances this season, and then explain why more people walk out of Wigan early, than walk into Wire at all.




check her out laugh.gif laugh.gif

Wigan have always had bigger gates than Wires, also you have a catchment area of 300K as Warrington is 195K
even you could do the maths.

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 04:57 PM

QUOTE (Hannibal @ Jul 18 2010, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Another guy who seems to think that it is more important who walks out than who walks in.

Just check the average attendances this season, and then explain why more people walk out of Wigan early, than walk into Wire at all.

Not sure, maybe a 25k stadium vs a 14k stadium could explain it, though.(13k cap on Sky games too.)
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Posted 18 July 2010 - 05:19 PM

Though oddly enough, while only 2 of our crowds would fit into that stadium, Wire have only had 1 sell out. Now if there is one thing that Wigan can't be accused of it's their crowds and their loyalty.
What next, our shirts aren't actually red and we don't even eat pies?
If the temptation to s... stir extends to slagging off our speccies then watch out the Verve. You'll be onto them next.

#132 1976PMJwires

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 05:22 PM

How we laugh????

this isn't a speccie bash.

yes you wear red and smell of pies, you happy now.

PS What was the final score on Friday???
PPS What was the final score on Saturday???

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 06:06 PM

i think i should say that i had a splendid time on friday. free tickets for the west stand which more than made up for being designated driver and having to look after a rather p!ssed up relative, though to be fair he rarely gets a pass! cool wigan fans sat behind us who seemed to take my celebrating with good grace even though one or more had travelled a considerable distance to be there.

lots of chanting between opposing fans after the game, some amusing some not, but not once did it threaten to overspill into anything more. wendall would have been disappointed.



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Posted 18 July 2010 - 06:25 PM

QUOTE (Dave T @ Jul 18 2010, 01:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Quite disappointed to read your comments on the support. It was announced (on your precious Wigan board) that Wire had 600 seats left at the start of Friday, meaning that they had sold around 4k, based on a 4.8k capcity (5402 full capacity minus 10% H&S capacity reduction = 4,800(ish)- although this may have been 15%). This means that with the Friday sales Wire probably took around 4.3k, and Wigan took around 18.4k.

Considering the fact that you got 18,605 versus Quins at home, the fact that you attracted fewer fans to a game like this should be a worry? You probably had around 17k against Saints, so you are actually bang out of order attacking the empty seats in the Warrington end, which legally couldn't be sold.


Regarding the Quinns game, different marketing tactics for different games.

The North Stand for that game would have been closed due to the low number of opposition supporters. The marketing tactic was therefore to sell large bulk blocks of discounted tickets to sponsors and major employers in the borough and put them in the North stand, they could have done the same for the Warrington game but you lot would have moaned about no tickets being available.

18.5k with no away support, 22.5k with 4k away support, seems Wigan can get 18.5k Wiganers in the ground. How many other clubs can claim that.*

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#135 Padge

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 06:35 PM

QUOTE (1976PMJwires @ Jul 18 2010, 05:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
check her out laugh.gif laugh.gif

Wigan have always had bigger gates than Wires, also you have a catchment area of 300K as Warrington is 195K
even you could do the maths.

I'll do the maths since you obviously can't

The 300k figure you give is for Wigan Borough, not Wigan township, Leigh sits within Wigan Borough so you can knock 130K off that figure. That leaves Wigan at 170k and Warrington at 195k

So Warrington's catchment is 25k bigger than Wigan's I'm afraid to inform you. rolleyes.gif

What have I told you before.

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#136 1976PMJwires

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 07:18 PM

QUOTE (Padge @ Jul 18 2010, 07:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll do the maths since you obviously can't

The 300k figure you give is for Wigan Borough, not Wigan township, Leigh sits within Wigan Borough so you can knock 130K off that figure. That leaves Wigan at 170k and Warrington at 195k

So Warrington's catchment is 25k bigger than Wigan's I'm afraid to inform you. rolleyes.gif

What have I told you before.



sorry taking the info from Office for national statistics


Leigh 30k nowhere near 130K, plus look at Leighs average crowd less than 1K, Dave do your maths???

this time you can not hide from the facts.

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 08:18 PM

QUOTE (1976PMJwires @ Jul 18 2010, 08:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
sorry taking the info from Office for national statistics


Leigh 30k nowhere near 130K, plus look at Leighs average crowd less than 1K, Dave do your maths???

this time you can not hide from the facts.

tends to be nearer 2 k actually, but for a new ground, below what they should get.

That's a side issue, as is where you count borders/residents/ fans.
There's Saints and Wigan and Widnes fans in Warrington, there'll be Wires fans outside the town boundary too, even in Duckville, even though I'm hardly an active live viewing fan now, just as and when/if etc.

As long as I've been a leaguie, Wigan has been the big game, the draw card, the team to beat, the game to watch, the original Glamour team if you like, even in the 70's.
They always drew bigger crowds, home and away, and got around 4-5k turning up when they got relegated.
The difference in current capacities means we won't better their best gates, but we can console ourselves in selling out our stadium more often than them recently.
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Posted 18 July 2010 - 08:19 PM

QUOTE (sam @ Jul 18 2010, 07:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i think i should say that i had a splendid time on friday. free tickets for the west stand which more than made up for being designated driver and having to look after a rather p!ssed up relative, though to be fair he rarely gets a pass! cool wigan fans sat behind us who seemed to take my celebrating with good grace even though one or more had travelled a considerable distance to be there.

lots of chanting between opposing fans after the game, some amusing some not, but not once did it threaten to overspill into anything more. wendall would have been disappointed.


This raises some interesting issues.
1 - good to hear that the violence endemic in virtual Wazza streets did not spill over into virtual Wigan (I was going to write Wigga but I believe that may have other connotations).
2 - I am not sure how you could have heard any Wiganers singing after a game given that they had all left by your own account long before the game ended. Maybe you heard the echo of massed hordes of Wazzerers?
3 - while the supporting cast has been doing a good job of giving vent to their anti-Wigan bile - Wigan walk tick, Sam absolutely dire player tick, Fielden cr.p tick, Joel a violent yob tick (let it all out) - the king of the stirrers is conspicuous by his absence. This coincides with Giwildgo's own absence, we all hope savouring every moment with a new baby pie. That prompts the inevitible thought - could GW amd Wendall be the same person and could Wendall be an imaginary figure of bitterness and stupidity created by him to make us all feel better about ourselves? If so, that is an act of genius.

Edited by Exiled Wiganer, 18 July 2010 - 08:20 PM.


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Posted 18 July 2010 - 09:30 PM

QUOTE (1976PMJwires @ Jul 18 2010, 08:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
sorry taking the info from Office for national statistics


Leigh 30k nowhere near 130K, plus look at Leighs average crowd less than 1K, Dave do your maths???

this time you can not hide from the facts.


Of FFS, here we go again.

Wigan Borough Population 305,600.

Wigan Town Population 81,203

Leigh Town Poulation 43,006


The Borough of Wigan is made up of other townships, Ashton, Standish and Shevington, Hindley, Atherton, Tyldsley, Aspull and Haigh, Golborne etc.

The other townships tend to be added to either Wigan or Leighs populations to give the Wigan Leigh split.

So it now appears that Warrington has over double the population to draw on than the town of Wigan, I gave you the simple breakdown given as a standard split used within Wigan Council.

The office of national stats takes figures for the whole borough by constituancy, you would have to work out where each consituancy was aligned to, Wigan or Leigh, then add up the totals.

When you understand how the stats are compiled and what the numbers you quote actually mean then get back.



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#140 getdownmonkeyman

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 09:44 PM

Warrington is around the third/fourth largest town in the country.




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