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#41 goldcard

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 08:47 AM

QUOTE (Saint Billinge @ Sep 10 2010, 10:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The announcement said 14,600!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Definately a lot more there than last week which was just over 14,000.

Sporting Life quotes 14,632, but the wireless was adamant it was sold out at over 17k.
Most odd.
Anyway, decent turnout for a nothing to lose game no matter how you look at it.
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#42 the horseman

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 09:38 AM

great crowd for a game when the losers dont go out of the series and who gets the gate money on play off games.

#43 Wendall

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 09:40 AM

14.5K aint a a bad turnout for a game which wasn't do or die and the fact that it was played in bad weather which affected the walk up.

Wire's following was down on the last time we played too, partly due to the economic realities of going to Wembley a few weeks ago I think.



#44 dallymessenger

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 09:42 AM

titans got just over 27,000

around 30,000 for the tigers / roosters

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 09:44 AM

QUOTE (dallymessenger @ Sep 11 2010, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
titans got just over 27,000

around 30,000 for the tigers / roosters


That must be a near capacity crowd?



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Posted 11 September 2010 - 09:56 AM

QUOTE (goldcard @ Sep 11 2010, 09:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sporting Life quotes 14,632, but the wireless was adamant it was sold out at over 17k.
Most odd.
Anyway, decent turnout for a nothing to lose game no matter how you look at it.

Not odd if you remember that all gate receipts are pooled to share between the clubs aren't they?

So it would make sense froma selfish point of view if the clubs said there was a few less than actual and pocketed the difference. Looked like Leeds did this last year, ground looked packed yet they said there was 11,000 odd IIRC.

Maybe I'm just being too cynical.

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#47 MrPosh

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 10:23 AM

QUOTE (Old Frightful @ Sep 11 2010, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not odd if you remember that all gate receipts are pooled to share between the clubs aren't they?

So it would make sense froma selfish point of view if the clubs said there was a few less than actual and pocketed the difference. Looked like Leeds did this last year, ground looked packed yet they said there was 11,000 odd IIRC.

Maybe I'm just being too cynical.

And maybe libellous, too. Although it may as well be a class action, because I think most people would agree with you.
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#48 Old Frightful

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 10:29 AM

QUOTE (MrPosh @ Sep 11 2010, 11:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And maybe libellous, too. Although it may as well be a class action, because I think most people would agree with you.

Hence the "looked like".. wink.gif

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#49 dallymessenger

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 11:00 AM

QUOTE (Wendall @ Sep 11 2010, 09:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That must be a near capacity crowd?


yeah.

33,150 tigers / roosters watching a golden point thriller

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 01:20 PM

QUOTE (Old Frightful @ Sep 11 2010, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not odd if you remember that all gate receipts are pooled to share between the clubs aren't they?

So it would make sense froma selfish point of view if the clubs said there was a few less than actual and pocketed the difference. Looked like Leeds did this last year, ground looked packed yet they said there was 11,000 odd IIRC.

Maybe I'm just being too cynical.


There were empty seats in the grandstand for a start. 14,5 a good crowd nonetheless
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#51 ParisSurtout

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 10:18 PM

QUOTE (dallymessenger @ Sep 9 2010, 10:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
week 1 of the nrl finals usually gets poorish crowds as well

since many of the finals dont mean anything for the top teams as they arent sudden death its seen more as a revenue raising excercise.

weeks 2 and 3 are where the action hots up

and still the crowds you mention are very impressive

i suspect well go from 15,000 - 30,000 for week 1 crowds in the nrl which isnt far off yours
penrith will probably only get 10,000 - 13,000 for their home semi




QUOTE (ParisSurtout @ Sep 10 2010, 12:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Gold Coast vs NZ Warriors should get 25,000 and Wests vs Sydney Roosters 30,000 - 32,000.

Penrith will get over 15,000. St George vs Manly will be only 16-18,000 because Manly has no chance.

So Hull FC, Wigan and St Helens should do better than the two lesser NRL crowds, but worse than the two bigger NRL crowds.

Huddersfield crowd will be a bomb that brings down the average. What a pity.



Latest update on NRL crowds:


Gold Coast vs NZ Warriors 27,046

Wests Tigers vs Sydney Roosters 33,315

Penrith Panthers vs Canberra Raiders 16,668

Total: 77,029


Latest update on SL crowds:


St Helens vs Warrington 14,632

Hull FC vs Hull KR 17,699

Huddersfield vs Crusaders 5,869

Total: 38,200

Edited by ParisSurtout, 11 September 2010 - 10:51 PM.

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#52 ParisSurtout

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 10:48 PM

QUOTE (Wendall @ Sep 11 2010, 05:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That must be a near capacity crowd?


Yes. Skilled Park Stadium capacity 27,500

More updates Sunday night.

Edited by ParisSurtout, 11 September 2010 - 10:49 PM.

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#53 Hannibal

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 10:52 PM

QUOTE (ParisSurtout @ Sep 11 2010, 11:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes. Skilled Park Stadium capacity 27,500

More updates Sunday night.

Wrong forum.

No one cares.

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#54 ParisSurtout

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 08:18 AM

QUOTE (ParisSurtout @ Sep 11 2010, 06:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Latest update on NRL crowds:


Gold Coast vs NZ Warriors 27,046

Wests Tigers vs Sydney Roosters 33,315

Penrith Panthers vs Canberra Raiders 16,668

Total: 77,029


Latest update on SL crowds:


St Helens vs Warrington 14,632

Hull FC vs Hull KR 17,699

Huddersfield vs Crusaders 5,869

Total: 38,200



New update on NRL crowds:

Gold Coast vs NZ Warriors 27,046

Wests Tigers vs Sydney Roosters 33,315

Penrith Panthers vs Canberra Raiders 16,668

St. George Dragons vs Manly Sea Eagles 15,574

Total: 92,603


The final update figure in the SL weekend will come later today.
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Posted 12 September 2010 - 08:31 AM

QUOTE (ParisSurtout @ Sep 12 2010, 09:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
New update on NRL crowds:

Gold Coast vs NZ Warriors 27,046

Wests Tigers vs Sydney Roosters 33,315

Penrith Panthers vs Canberra Raiders 16,668

St. George Dragons vs Manly Sea Eagles 15,574

Total: 92,603


The trouble is, these games will have had massive media exposure down under, compared to barely a quarter page for all fixtures over here, due to footy, cricket etc.
Give us more hype here in the press, and crowds could well increase, if not to match those figures, at least to challenge stadia capacities.
Doesn't always relate to media coverage, though, as Newcastle Falcons yawnion got less than 6k on Friday, while Skints got 14,6k.



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#56 Dirk Diggler

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 08:34 AM

Perhaps the solution is to nail down the play offs next year as a six team comp.
A Hull derby, Wigan v Saints and Leeds v Wire. The games could then be included in season tickets and will probably sell out and everyone will be happy. its the uncertainty and lack of planning that spoiling the thing.
If things carry on like they are now we will all have to forget about what's going on in the stands and just concentrate on what's happening on the pitch.


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Posted 12 September 2010 - 08:37 AM

QUOTE (goldcard @ Sep 12 2010, 04:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The trouble is, these games will have had massive media exposure down under, compared to barely a quarter page for all fixtures over here, due to footy, cricket etc.
Give us more hype here in the press, and crowds could well increase, if not to match those figures, at least to challenge stadia capacities.
Doesn't always relate to media coverage, though, as Newcastle Falcons yawnion got less than 6k on Friday, while Skints got 14,6k.


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#58 dallymessenger

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 09:09 AM

i dont think semis should be included in season tickets

we dont do it in the nrl.

why should the RFL lose valuable revenues?

fans should be keen enough to pay.



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Posted 12 September 2010 - 01:23 PM

QUOTE (goldcard @ Sep 12 2010, 09:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The trouble is, these games will have had massive media exposure down under, compared to barely a quarter page for all fixtures over here, due to footy, cricket etc.
Give us more hype here in the press, and crowds could well increase, if not to match those figures, at least to challenge stadia capacities.
Doesn't always relate to media coverage, though, as Newcastle Falcons yawnion got less than 6k on Friday, while Skints got 14,6k.




Yep, and how big were the soccer crowds in Oz this weekend?

There's Aussie Rules, Leage, Union then the rest. Here it's just a tad different.


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#60 ParisSurtout

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 12:38 AM

QUOTE (ParisSurtout @ Sep 11 2010, 06:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Latest update on NRL crowds:


Gold Coast vs NZ Warriors 27,046

Wests Tigers vs Sydney Roosters 33,315

Penrith Panthers vs Canberra Raiders 16,668

Total: 77,029


Latest update on SL crowds:


St Helens vs Warrington 14,632

Hull FC vs Hull KR 17,699

Huddersfield vs Crusaders 5,869

Total: 38,200



Finals Weekend 1 SL crowds:


St Helens vs Warrington 14,632

Hull FC vs Hull KR 17,699

Huddersfield vs Crusaders 5,869

Wigan vs Leeds 9,987

Total: 48,187




Final Weekend 1 NRL crowds:

Gold Coast vs NZ Warriors 27,046

Wests Tigers vs Sydney Roosters 33,315

Penrith Panthers vs Canberra Raiders 16,668

St. George Dragons vs Manly Sea Eagles 15,574

Total: 92,605


So the NRL attracted nearly double the crowds of the Super League.

It is true that Super League has nothing like the mass media publicity of the NRL. But that does not explain why there were only 9,987 at the Wigan vs Leeds game. All the fans of the two best supported clubs knew the match was on. But they just failed to show up.

Moreover the NRL games were all live on terrestrial television (Channel 9). No one had to pay to watch the TV.

Clearly there are more Aussies who follow rugby league, and they are more passionate about their clubs than people from the northern so-called heartlands of English rugby league. That is why Australia is number 1.

The only hope for the northern hemisphere is to get more passionate French people involved. That entails giving them their own Super League clubs in Toulouse in 2012, and later in Paris.

Edited by ParisSurtout, 13 September 2010 - 12:42 AM.

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