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John Drake

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#3209113 Sam burgess the conspiracy

Posted by John Drake on 06 October 2015 - 03:38 PM

We have a cross-code forum, but you can only access it when you have 100+ posts.



It's an old but effective troll prevention rule on this site.


Unless and until such time as Sam Burgess becomes a Rugby League player again, discussions on his current and future career options will remain banished to cross-code.

#3205401 Jeremy Corbyn & the Labour Party

Posted by John Drake on 02 October 2015 - 11:58 AM

I swear this was a thread about Labour.


One of the reasons I didn't want Jeremy Corbyn to win the Labour leadership was because, despite whatever else he might say or do in the future, whatever worthy policies he may advocate that would genuinely improve the lives of working people, however different he may be in real life from the baby-eating, loony-lefty parody we are presented with by the media, it is the cranky historical baggage he undoubtedly carries that will constantly sidetrack every debate.


I've just spent a very interesting few days in Brighton at the Labour Party Conference as a delegate for my local CLP in Bradford South. I might write about it in more detail later, but when I see what's going on in this thread I start to wonder whether it would be worth the effort.

#3199993 Another tory scandal

Posted by John Drake on 25 September 2015 - 08:43 AM

Aaaand locked.


TRL is not a platform for baiting each other.


It is here for genuine debate.


Thank you.

#3198326 Free school meals for infants 'set to be scrapped'

Posted by John Drake on 22 September 2015 - 03:09 PM

remember the fuss from schools when this was introduced? Whinging and whining teachers ...never happy unless they are complaining.



Do teachers cook school dinners?

#3196888 This website and the rugby union World Cup

Posted by John Drake on 20 September 2015 - 02:26 PM

A brief explanation of a very old TotalRL.com rule...

This is a Rugby League website. That's why it is called Total Rugby League.

If you are interested only in rugby union, and not Rugby League, you are on the wrong website. We suggest you go back to Google and find somewhere else to play. There are lots of alternatives out there.

Some people who like and appreciate Rugby League also like and appreciate rugby union. We get that.

That's why we have a'cross-code' forum on here where our members can discuss rugby union topics if they want to, whilst avoiding upsetting the vast majority of our members who do not want to discuss rugby union, because they are Rugby League fans, on a Rugby League website.

However, if you are new here, you won't immediately be able to find the cross-code forum. That's because you need to accumulate 100 genuine posts across any of the other sections of our forum before being able to view or post on the cross-code forum.

It's our defence mechanism against those who just want to join here in order to troll. Strange as it may seem, such people do exist, and can be annoyingly persistent.

We think that if someone can accumulate 100 posts discussing Rugby League matters without falling foul of the forum rules, not only have they demonstrated they have a genuine interest in Rugby League (an essential prerequisite for joining a Rugby League forum, in our view) they can also be trusted to post responsibly and within our rules on cross-code matters, where tempers can tend to fray much more quickly.

Please be aware that if you start threads - or disrupt other threads - discussing rugby union on any part of our forums other than the cross-code forum, you will be met with a rather frosty reception from our members and the moderators, to the extent that your thread/posts will probably be deleted and you will be banned from posting again.

Thank you for reading.

#3193759 TRL Forum Help Desk. Avoing the unmentionable

Posted by John Drake on 15 September 2015 - 09:47 AM

If you want to avoid it, why start a chuffing thread about in on here, where no one had mentioned it up to now?



#3193747 Crowd Watch week 6 of the 888's

Posted by John Drake on 15 September 2015 - 09:32 AM

Absolutely bored of these threads with the same people banging each other over the head with the same arguments over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over....................... you get the picture?


I'm tempted to lock them on sight from now on.


I'm also going to invite the main protagonists to start posting under their real names from now on.

#3193741 Structurewatch

Posted by John Drake on 15 September 2015 - 09:26 AM


#3193580 Labour leadership contest

Posted by John Drake on 14 September 2015 - 09:18 PM

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#3189971 12 Sept: Qualifiers - Wakefield Trinity Wildcats v Widnes Vikings KO 6pm

Posted by John Drake on 09 September 2015 - 09:21 AM

Discuss Wakefield Trinity Wildcats v Widnes Vikings here.

#3189516 The Syria problem

Posted by John Drake on 08 September 2015 - 09:55 AM

I have no idea what the solution should be.


If only more people angrily demanding immediate solutions to complex problems on the internet were honest enough to admit the same.

#3187481 Labour leadership contest

Posted by John Drake on 04 September 2015 - 04:05 PM

No Left Unity members have a vote. However, LU will cease to exist if Corbyn wins because many will return to the real Labour Party. I am anticipating resigning from LU next Saturday and rejoining the LP. Happy days!


Your loyalty is truly inspiring.


Remind us, how many votes did Left Unity win at the last General Election?

#3187477 Labour leadership contest

Posted by John Drake on 04 September 2015 - 04:01 PM

John, this is your man. He has not got a Scooby Do. http://www.independe...f-10482385.html


Ok, so you ignore all the points I made in my post, and respond instead with a link to a newspaper article that makes some pretty weak arguments against Andy Burnham.


Look, I'm not Burnham's campaign manager. Unlike yourself with Jeremy Corbyn, I don't feel the need to defend his every utterance from criticism. He's a politician, not the messiah. I'm not looking for infallibility, just electability.


I still think Burnham's the best of the candidates on offer here, primarily the one with the best chance of appealing beyond the narrow confines of the Labour Party membership to the electorate beyond, while at the same time being the best qualified to hold the party together. Corbyn has zero chance of achieving either of those outcomes.


I don't think that article proves the point it is attempting to make.

#3187423 Labour leadership contest

Posted by John Drake on 04 September 2015 - 02:43 PM

Craig, I'm a trained social science researcher. Of course it's not a statistically sound sample. However, i see no reason to believe that pro-Corbyn viewers are more likely to self select than those opposed to Corbyn. Indeed, i would expect it to be fairly polarised. However, of the 10,000 viewers able to use the Sky Pulse technology 80% of them went for Corbyn.

As for your last para, i repeat, it's all up for discussion and democratic decision. I know it's difficult to believe that a leader might want to allow dissent and differing points of view but that's democracy for you. I know we've not been used to it but it's what's on offer from a JC led Labour Party.


Let's deal with this Sky News poll, shall we. It's meaningless. As meaningless as when someone wins the X Factor with millions of telephone votes but their subsequent musical career disappears without trace. As meaningless as when the same polls report the public being in favour of hanging and flogging and suchlike, as they often do. I doubt you'd believe in them then, so why now? Plus, you're missing the obvious point that lots of people who can't stand the Labour Party are desperate for it to be saddled with Jeremy Corbyn as its leader, because it will gift them undreamed of political advantages in the years ahead, and they can press a button on their Sky remote to say what a jolly good fellow he is too.


Meanwhile, in the real world, where the other three candidates live and understand how voters outside the Labour Party will actually vote...


You seem to want to have your cake and eat it too. One minute Jeremy has all the best policies, the next minute they're not actually policies at all, just proposals up for discussion! Which is it to be?


if it is the latter, what happens when the party decides on a policy that Jeremy personally doesn't like? Does he troop off in a huff and vote against it, as he has been free to do as a backbencher all these years, and make himself look weak and ridiculous as a leader protesting against his own party, or does he finally get around to accepting the role of leadership also requires compromise? At which point, his halo will crumble into dust for many of his more fanatical followers.

#3187411 Labour leadership contest

Posted by John Drake on 04 September 2015 - 02:31 PM

You are completely missing what's happening John. The attacks are strengthening the Corbyn position, not weakening it. Newspapers are increasingly irrelevant. Social media is transforming politics. It is providing the delivery of information, the power to counter misinformation, the means of collective action, the capacity for organising real grass roots activity. The Sun has just been forced to do an about face on its front page. Cameron has been shamed into changing policy (and will be further shamed).


According to my Twitter feed, Labour were on course to win the last election easy peasy. I almost started to believe it myself at one point. Then the real votes got counted and we got thumped. Social media distorts people's perceptions of reality.


What really changed Cameron's policy on refugees was the image of a dead child on a beach, published on the front page of a traditional print newspaper. Do not underestimate their continued influence.