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But you see players over the line give tries to a player who after a long career has not scored, it doesn't take long for the same thing to be done with a bet on.

All depends when he went down ill, could have been as they were leaving. But I am positive it makes no difference.

Itc common knowledge he is going to York, so why bother, the young players are better off gaining experience, and the game managed with no 18th man for most of it's existence.

Warrington have had lots of criticism lately but the 21 man squad contains 11 players who are from the academy system plus several more who would have been in contention that are injured. With the unbeaten academy playing Wigan in the semis and the reserve side in the GF, it's not the basket case some posters have said.

Not met anyone ( who's not a sandwich short of a picnic) who hates the. HJ., the crowds would halve going back to the wilderspool dump. I hear the hankering back for some of the old stadium,crazy they were dumps that belonged in the past including some still used.

Never in a month of Sundays, it was a crumbling ground with bad or non existent facilities, poor viewing. The he new stadium is superb and creates a good atmosphere.

It's was tongue in cheek, but scholarship in SL clubs involves education as well as Rugby.

Strange unsuspecting places ? Yorkshire, isn't that where you would expect to find it.

Remind me how many top flight finals you have reached this century., your cupboard is only full of cobwebs

They had problems with the women's but that is not across the whole club, the first team situation is well documented but despite poor form this season they played in two successive CC finals. The Acadamy is unbeaten this season, the reserves are one game away from the grand final. So not across all areas.

The first paragraph is clearly wrong, they may not want to pay out the money but they can clearly afford it. And in the last 25 years have we learned any lessons on who we hire as coaches (only Smith can be deemed a success) so the last two appointments, Powell, vastly experienced coach with a track record in SL . He failed despite being financially backed and allowing him a free hand. Burgess, A highly thought of ex superstar starting out in the NRL coaching as part of a top clubs team. Two opposite ends of the coaching spectrum. It can't be just the coaches because we constantly change with varying coaches . Anderson,Agar,Lowes,Cullen,Smith,Price, Powell, Burgess . A variety of experience,club legends, former superstar, Australian coaches,young coaches early in careers.

That's a role reversal Australia sending criminals to us.

Williams missing, it could be embarrassing

It's the injuries to young players that I find alarming, the amount of long term injuries to young Warrington players is high, several out for lengthy periods and Wrench retiring at 23 after two major knee ops. I do think training and conditioning is not anywhere near the NRL, also the game is messy. But on your point players have always come over but the injuries happen more frequently now and the gaps been there for decades. So it's not just one thing.

We could also grade each team differently depending on important we think they are, so unpopular teams get reduced period to hit people.