Death to the Rah Rah's

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  1. I can remember going to Old Trafford to watch Great Britain v the Aussies in the early 90s. The atmosphere was electric - mainly due to the compère who really got the crowd involved - I can't remember all the details, but I do recall virtually the entire crowd stamping their feet and clapping their hands to Queens 'we will rock you'. The Aussies must have wondered what the hell was going on
  2. Scattergun is a great way of describing the RFL development strategy - I'm disappointed that I didn't think of that one myself. When will the 'powers that be' at Red Hall, actually get off their backsides and engage with the people who are running the game at grassroots level. I'm talking about the people involved with clubs, not the Community Board or other local league management structures. The people running these clubs will tell you what support they need. Everytime the RFL rolls out a new scheme, be it Sky Try, Scholarships, Embed the Pathway etc. the local officlals just roll their eyes and think 'here we go again'. I know a lot of these schemes are adopted from the Aussie game, but what works down under, won't necessarily work over here, as we have more obstacles to overcome that our Aussie cousins
  3. I'm not aware of the RFL rewarding clubs other than offering them cheap deals on group purchases
  4. we need to wipe the board clean and start again and go to Sport England with a new development plan that fits the needs of RL in the U.K., not what ticks Sport Englands aims at this particular time. It will be very difficult to sell to the national body, but if proper foundations and structures are put into place, then the game can flourish again. While I am all for expanding the game away from the traditional areas, at present we need to stop the rot in the traditional areas as we will have huge problems if the game is allowed to wither and die in these areas. Everything needs looked at, from the way we bring coaches into the game, to putting in proper support networks and classes that allow coaches to develop their skills, as opposed to the current system which just sees coaches given their ticket after a four day course and left to get on with it. Little wonder there are so few coaches moving into open age rugby, and even fewer good coaches!! In my opinion, EVERY PLAYER who signs on as a professional should have to undertake a coaching qualification at their club and there should be a coaching link ups with the local amateur clubs within their catchment area. We need to adopt a long term view to try and improve the standards of rugby league players which will benefit the professional clubs in due course as well as strengthen the amateur game. There should be a team of development officers who can saturate an area over a 4-6 month programme, linking in with schools, local clubs and colleges using a pre-designed template. The RFL to identify key local individuals to train up during this development programme to deliver courses, support coaches etc, and offer a full support network after the development team have moved on. These local individuals should also receive expenses payments as well as being invited guests to the big RL games. We need to start rewarding the people who do all the work. The game does have a future, but it needs to have a plan of action
  5. Great idea in principle - but I agree with others on here that it would need to be a 7-10 year plan as you wouldn't be able to touch the surface in 3-5 years. Sport England would be the obvious choice to fund something like this, but it would be a very hard sell as they don't seem to like funding things for more than 5 years, and a bigger problem would be tackling their particular aims at that time. A small percentage of tv money could also be used to show commitment from the RFL. There are lots of ways the RFL could look to rebuild grassroots RL but somebody at some point needs to engage with the existing player base, and club committees to see what they want. We see some fantastic suggestions on the forum alone, so why doesn't anyone act on these suggestions to formulate a plan and submit it to the RFL? I've a gut feeling the local open age amateur leagues in west Cumbria will return to winter shortly, it's not that they don't enjoy playing in summer, but there are so many other distractions it is killing the game. It's also causing divided loyalties with those lads who also play rugby union in the off season choosing to stay with the ru club til the end of their season
  6. I would be very surprised if the juniors moved back to a traditional winter season as it works reasonably well. Open age is a different kettle of fish. People tend to forget that the reason the game switched to summer was because the game was struggling for numbers in winter and the switch came off the back of a horrible and very wet couple of winters. Clubs voted for the switch as well and I'm sure it was initially on a trial basis to see how it went. The game has huge problems throughout the country, so don't kid yourselves that its just in Cumbria. the league needs to start dialogue with players to see what the problems are, and when THEY want to play. that has to be the starting point before any other plans can be put into place
  7. The RFL need to appoint a new body to re-evaluate the game to see where it is at present and where it sees itself in 5, 10 and 15,years. There is no quick fix to solve the problems within the sport as there are too many areas which need fixing! The community game is on its backside and the professional game is just as bad. Out of interest, how many of our professional clubs would have a viable business plan without the RFLs central funding programme, or perhaps more importantly, how many clubs would be insolvent without it! As part of this central funding, what are the professional clubs supposed to deliver for the money within their local communities? How (if at all) is this monitored and is it independently verified? As a sport, are we getting value for money from clubs in exchange for this funding, or are we ignoring the grassroots of the game to subsidise players wages for insolvent clubs?
  8. All great suggestions, but one thing needs to change more than anything mentioned on here so far and the is PLAYER ATTITUDES!! Cumbria MENS this weekend, Maryport, Seaton and Wath Brow insufficient numbers to get teams. All the above have youth sections as well although Maryports only up to 14s at present. That's the biggest hurdle to overcome, makes little odds what time of year you play if the dedication is lacking.
  9. Town and Haven will both lose up to half their squads at the end of this season as the harsh financial realities of life in Championship One start to bite. Both clubs will have to bring in players from outside of the county as there are not enough players locally to make up the shortfall. It reminds me of the dark old days of the mid eighties when Town were bringing in journeyman players well past their best like Billy Platt and David Ward, Jesus it was depressing following Town in those days, losing to the likes of Springfield Borough, Mansfield and Nottingham on a fairly regular basis. The difference between the mid-80s and now is that there was still a very strong vibrant amateur game locally and there were plenty of lads who wanted to step up to the professional game. The amateur game now is on its knees and unless the RFL take some action and fight the problem of player participation head on, then the local clubs will soon be disappearing. I don't know how many local games I've watched this season when both teams had 13 players plus 4 subs, most have been playing with a scratch 13 plus 1 or 2 subs. Some of you in here talk about getting a local coach to replace Vevers, well who would you get? Rooney wouldn't leave the comforts of WATH brow to coach a side with no resources to strengthen, and after that there isn't anyone else I can think of who could make the grade. Gary Hewer, Peter Smith or Gary Murdock are the only other locals that I can think of who are capable of coaching a pro side, but they have all had been involved in the coaching set up at pro clubs previously and decided it wasn't for them. Both clubs need to look at merging at the earliest opportunity and then start to work with the local clubs for the good of the game. Leaving the subject completely, why the hell didn't the club put a gate on the old training ground to stop the gypsys getting back on training field when it took them over 12 months to get them off?
  10. Under the current circumstances, the decline across the game will not even start to flatline until the RFL board start to listen to the community clubs. The current game at present is ran for the elite and from the top down, rather than the bottom up. I don't know how you feel, but I've stopped watching Super League games as the quality is the poorest since its inception. I'm enjoying watching the NRL as the quality and skill levels are so much higher. There needs to be a total restructure of the game from the bottom up, the Community Board needs scrapped and the amateur game needs to be able to look after its own affairs again, with clerical and financial support from central coffers. The Colleges, schools, armed forces etc.also need their voice to be heard, but they don't need to sit at the table with the amateur game. U17 and 19 Academies should be scrapped immediately, but I do think the professional game should run with an U23 league with provision to allow game time for injured players getting back to full fitness. The way the game has been ran for the last 10 years has been an absolute joke, and we are now paying the price at grassroots level for the RFL's incompetence. When the game is struggling in the traditional heartlands like Cumbria, Yorkshire, Lancashire and Humberside then we are in big big trouble. Workington, Whitehaven and Barrow will be in the lowest level of professional RL next season, and interest will be even lower than it is now. Out if interest, why are the administrators of the Regional Leagues not getting together and challenging the RFL as one voice?
  11. You have a good memory Maurader, the CARL league did initially trial the switch to summer which was a result of the game struggling in the winter months. For the first 2-3 of seasons it went pretty well, there was a definite bounce in playing numbers, partly boosted by RU players in their off season and there were very few postponements with very good crowds watching games. One of the deciding factors in switching to summer was that the next generation of junior players moving into open age wouldn't play in winter as they had played all their youth in summer. I can't speak for clubs outside of west Cumbria, but the 'next generation' are the ones who have not progressed in sufficient numbers into open age to sustain the amateur game. Would a switch back to winter solve the problem? No of course it won't. The problems the game faces are much bigger than the winter/summer debate. The London 2012 Olympics created a legacy which has carried on to Rio and resulted in team GBs medal haul being the highest ever. The RFL had a golden opportunity to create their own legacy after the success of th last World Cup. What did they do to capitalise on that success? - nothing at all. The game needs a transformation to save it from itself - the current RFL Board are not equipped to undertake the task of moving the game forward. Questions need to be asked, and which of the regional leagues will take the lead and start to challenge the RFL. There are some very knowledgable people currently standing on the sidelines watching the sport die a painful death, and I sense that some of these people may be ready to pick up the gauntlet and fight for the future of the game
  12. open age RL in Cumbria has seen a huge drop in playing numbers this season, to the point where teams putting out 17 players each week are in the minority. I've also noticed attendances are well down in nearly every game I've watched this season, and I'm taking 50-60% down on previous seasons, this in turn knocks bar revenue at clubs. There doesn't seem to be as much publicity in the local media which may have something to do with the dramatic fall in spectators, but it's just another nail in the coffin at the lowest level of RL. Can anything be done to reverse the rot, I don't honestly know, but one things for certain, sitting about and doing nothing won't help. I would like to see a breakdown of how Sport England money is spent within the current structure of the game. Only then can the hard work start to rebuild the game
  13. I thought the salary cap was brought in to ensure these financial meltdowns wouldn't happen. I appreciate things can change when investors walk away, but if player salaries are a percentage of income, then the financial projections at clubs are not being properly vetted by the RFL. Maybe it's time for the RFL to review the situation and set the salary cap for each club based on their actual income and only allowing or a percentage of projected income
  14. How do you start to purge the games current management and who would choose their replacements?
  15. I'm sure we have all enjoyed the success of our athletes in Rio after a wonderful 2 weeks of competitions against the worlds best. Sport England will be ecstatic with the medal haul and will view the high profile games as proof that their long term investment and commitment to sport is working through increased participation at junior levels and being able to compete with the worlds best. Where will that leave rugby league in the future? when I've listened to the coaches of many of these sports they talk about the medal winners being the culmination of years of hard work and planning, sticking to training plans and tweaking where necessary to get to the pinnacle of their sports. Then I thought about the state of our sport, rugby league .....a game seemingly with no long term plan, a profile which is diminishing year on year, a shrinking player base at community level and currently with very very little leadership at the highest level. Does the game have a blueprint for the the future of sport, if we do who sees it? How much influence do Sport England have on our sport as it's quite obvious to all at community level that there is no money being invested in tiers 3 and 4 to help grow grass roots rugby league, so where does all the money go? Our game is in a very fragile state, and if we all don't start to pull together then I fear we won't have a long term future. There are many sports at the olympics who have come back from the dead with good planning, the time has come for RL to do the same. What's everyone else's thoughts on this?