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  1. With the Covid crisis showing no sigh of abating, will contact sports such as rugby league and union every recover, especially at junior level if parents have grave concerns about contact sports? In addition what steps (if any), have the RFL and BARLA got in place to reassure participants that it is safe to play when games are allowed to resume? Although the RFL have received a government loan will any of this be made available to community clubs who may be struggling to keep their clubhouses open? What about BARLA ?, maybe its time for them to step up to the plate and use their sizeable cash reserves to throw some money back into the regional leagues who have remained members of this organisation to help promote the game locally and also issue guidance and support to clubs. If they stand by and do nothing, then in my eyes that will prove that the organisation is no longer fit for purpose and should be dissolved. As usual, the only news from the RFL is about the usual cash crisis of the Pro clubs, but without the community clubs there is no professional game, so let's here what their plans are, not just for the pro game but the entire sport. Do we return to winter if summer rugby is off the table for this year, or would we just wait until February and start again, despite the risk of losing players to other sports or the game completely ? Worrying times....
  2. Anyway, we have more to worry about with the Corona virus. As a sport RL has an aging support base, and some of these will be in the 'high risk' category or being over 60 with underlying health issues. If the government decide to ban large gatherings, we could end up in a situation that the only RL we can see locally are Whitehaven home games !!?
  3. been lots of rebrands over years in the lower leagues and I can't honesty see where it's made any difference in terms of exposure or attendances. Swinton 'Lions', Hunslet 'Hawks', Oldham 'Bears', London 'Crusaders', Broncos, Harlequins etc., Barrow 'Border Raiders' - at the end of the day, the only thing that really brings supporters through the turnstiles is success on the field. You could argue the exception to the rule was Keighley Cougars, but even that was initially linked to success on the field with a couple of star players thrown in. If anything, its the RL concept itself that needs a rebrand as part of a wider attempt to increase audiences on both TV and the terraces. A Barry Hearn type promoter could possibly do more for the long term prospects of the game than a token name change. Let's not forget that some clubs have quietly gone back to their traditional name - who can remember Hull 'Sharks' !!
  4. Here's a link to the Fylde stadium which was also developed as part of a wider regeneration scheme https://www.afcfylde.co.uk/mill-farm/ https://www.fleetwoodtownfc.com/news/2016/september/job-vacancy-highbury-stadium-cook/ Photo of Fleetwoods main stand which I believe cost around £4 million, the other 3 sides of the ground are covered standing areas and the ground has a capacity of just over 5,000
  5. Not at all !! If the main grandstand is designed in the same way as Fylde FC, Fleetwood and Salford RL, that would have all the facilities required to maintain usage, be it private functions, trade fairs, conferences etc. If one main furnished stand is big enough for the likes of Salford and Fylde which are far bigger towns than Workington, then where's the problem? The rest of the development (ie: communal 3G pitch etc) would still go ahead as planned. As I understand it, the offices originally earmarked to be built in the stands (at great cost) will now be built separately in blocks, which if you think logically about it is probably a better option as its easier to expand a standalone block if the need arises as space within the grandstand would be limited by the stadium design. I do agree with Frisky that Derwent Park has a much bigger footprint that the proposed stadium site, but lets not forget this scheme is develop the full Northside/Riverside area bringing the stadium and its facilities closer to the town centre. Derwent Park once flattened is a huge site and ideal for housing, which would help towards the cost of the new stadium Let's all keep our fingers and toes crossed that the stadium does go ahead and isn't just another council folly
  6. Some of the comments from Reds and Town fans about the stadium are laughable. Let's look at the facts, we have 2 clubs who don't have pot to ###### in and little prospect of ever being taken over by a multi-millionaire, both struggling to crack an average of 1000 supporters to games complaining that they would rather stay in the respective decrepit stadiums rather than move into a 'cheap and nasty version of what have now'' !! Town will never rise higher than Championship rugby, and the Reds could possibly get to the Conference. Forget about Super League and the Football League as it is never going to happen without a major investor who is prepared to lose at least one million a year to sustain top level rugby. Allerdale have a duty of care to ensure the stadium development is not a white elephant that will pull funding from other essential areas in the borough, let's not forget that less than 2% of the current population of Allerdale currently use the Red's and Town stadiums, but the other 98% will be expected to contribute towards the initial building and upkeep of the facility once its built. I personally would rather see a nice modern compact stadium with 4 or 5k capacity, housing one main grandstand with all the modern facilities under the one roof plus 3 covered sheds with refreshment facilities and toilets. A good example of this is Fylde FC or Fleetwood Town. At the end of day, beggars can't be choosers, and until we get a sugar daddy we fall in to the 'beggars' category!
  7. The new councilors have always maintained the new stadium was still on the cards, but the timescales and costs for the previous development mean't is was not financially viable. I've heard they are looking at a 5,000 capacity stadium, still on the Borough Park site, which will be more than ample at this time for Town and Reds needs. Let's all hope this development goes ahead for the good of the Allerdale
  8. in comparison to other modern stadiums, Old Trafford is light years behind, and United are in real danger of falling further behind their rivals as the likes of Tottenham, Chelsea and Arsenal develop the corporate side of their business which is far more lucrative than the traditional footie season ticket holder. The Ethiad is a far superior stadium, but as someone has already pointed out, the capacity is a lot less than Old Trafford, but in my opinion would make for a better 'fans' experience as the fans zone outside the ground would be ideal for RL, which could include a large stage with live bands etc outside the stadium rather than sticking a band in a corner of a ground where nobody can see them. So there's ways to look at this - keep it at Old Trafford and continue to sell heavily discounted tickets to community clubs in order to sell out the ground, or take it to a smaller ground, increase ticket prices to reflect the reduced capacity and put more effort into selling corporate sponsorship which in fairness, is where the money is. One the tram network to the Ethiad is finished, then this surely would be a better option - as the Ethiad has the smaller stadiums adjacent to it, the afternoon could be combined with the Ladies finals which could be played in the smaller 5,000 capacity stadium earlier in the afternoon
  9. Can always remember Mike Yarwood on his xmas TV special singing 'I'm dreaming of a 'White..haven' xmas'
  10. excellent move by the BOD. Not sure what's happened with Rooney taking over as coach, but I think this is a more solid appointment and will pay dividends in the long term. If nothing else, he has been able to assess first hand the issues at the club, the current squad, and will no doubt have players in mind that he wishes to bring into key positions to strengthen the side. Maybe the BOD should approach Haven and Barrow and possibly Newcastle and start playing for the Cumbria Cup as a pre season competition. It was always very competitive back in the day, and would be more beneficial that playing the Super League u19's and Reserve sides
  11. all business sense seems to go out of the window when it comes to managing sports clubs. Accountants probably advise the owners to stack interest on any loans to offset tax, so basically its a soft loan, and would only ever become an issue if the loan (with interest) was called in by the owner which they rarely are and was probably why Eddie Davies could write off the Bolton debt
  12. Eddie Davies was from Bolton, he made his money making kettle elements. From what I've read a lot of the money owed to him was 'interest' at quite high interest rates on money he had injected into the club in the form of loans. There's no doubt he wrote off a lot of money but whether it was 117 million 'cash' or anywhere near it is anyone's guess
  13. They are all a disgrace mate, its makes embarrassing reading. Playing out the 'ping-pong' blame game on social media doesn't inspire me with any confidence that any of them (Labour, Cons and Indies) are fit to run the council. I'm not talking about the bins fiasco either, as that will get resolved one way or another in the next few weeks. Every elected councilor should be made to sit a workshop about the perils and pitfalls of social media, some of them seem to forget that you can't undo anything that's posted, and hiding behind a pseudonym doesn't stop you from being prosecuted.
  14. I think she would have been better advised to have voiced her concerns to Allerdale in private without publishing the letter on Facebook. She's left herself wide open to criticism by doing that, after all, how many times did she 'publish' letters on social media while Labour were in charge of the council, and would she have been as 'openly critical' had these problems happened under Labour's watch? Social media is great for some things, but sites like 'The Allerdale Independent' with its constant trolling of the Independent councilors just makes Labour look like sore losers. End of the day the public can vote in who they want, and if they don't like the administration they can vote them out in 4 years. I'm pleased I have no political affiliation, as politics is so polarised these days.
  15. Mark Jenkinson has previously mentioned the Moor Lane ground at Salford FC on several occasions which is a metal pre-fab. I don't like it myself, be some temperature fluctuations between summer and winter standing on metal terracing !! Sure I read somewhere it cost circa £5 million to build
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