gingerjon

Green Bay played in Milwaukee for decades alongside games in Green Bay. They are very obviously Wisconsin's NFL team.

It's been a decent tournament. Crowds have been noisy and involved as well, which I think has helped. Notable, I think, that goalkeeping really seems to have come on since the last Euros across the board.

It may not be hard, but it’s not straightforward. Hence a discussion.

You could read it.

This is literally a thread discussing a 14 team Super League so how is the question being ignored?

We’ve already been told that the RFL are breaking into their piggy bank in order to pay off IMG. So the most likely scenario next season is two French teams in the top division, a division of 14, and a governing body with massively depleted resources in order to pay for breaking a contract.

Finland become the first team to go out and not really deserve it. But the noise when Switzerland equalised. That must have caused an avalanche or two.

You are literally agreeing that clubs should, can and do work to increase their home fans as away fans is not a reliable income stream.

I think it's them showing how smarter clubs don't rely on it but take their own steps to get people in.

Oh no. Sounds awful. How can clubs even think about trying different things for different games to increase the attendance?

I don't know - and I'm sure it will be a sometimes yes, sometimes no argument - but they are simpler. No need for player development, no need for any longer term commitment, no need for anything other than, "Can you do a job for me this weekend?" It is completely explicable. It is no way to run a sport.

But the whole point of IMG and the twelve-year-plan is that is about doing the basics over the longer term in order to (a) take power away from the clubs who are understandably short sighted, and (b) open up more income generating opportunities. That has now been wrecked and there is nothing to replace it with anything like that ambition. This takeover is all about making rugby league in England the next speedway or stock car racing.

Bingo. It is staggeringly simple. The clubs will vote for whatever is easiest for them in the moment regardless of any impact that has on anything else. We all know why they will do this. It's not some kind of revelation or wisdom. But if we actually want the game to be successful then compulsion to be bigger than "what's the best team I can get out this weekend" is necessary.

Lionesses look like it will be down to beating Wales. Currently four up on a very overwhelmed Dutch side.

It’s like that time his girlfriend disagreed with him