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  1. Just prior to the mens match starting, they had that music playing over and over again. The girl who was singing the national anthem was stood in the middle of the pitch during all this, probably wishing she'd put a big coat on And seriously, people complain about Sweet Caroline, but I'd be happy if I never heard Tom Hark again for the rest of my life. The whole thing felt very flat, and to be fair it wasn't the best of games. It does make me wonder why I bother buying tickets for these game when they first go on sale, when you get an email two weeks out saying the prices have been cut and I can either have an extra ticket for free or get a 50% refund on what I orignally paid. Highlight of the day for my wife was the group behind us trying to converse with members of the French womens team who kept coming back and to with boxes of pizza. Suffice to say, that's one conversation that didn't go far
  2. Came to Bramley in 99 after the Gold Coast Chargers folded, and went on to play for Oldham, Salford, Warrington, Sheffield and in France with Pia. He even managed to play alongside Adrian Lam in the halves for the Rest of the World against the ARL Australian team in 1997.
  3. Tom O'Reilly was another who played for Warrington, early 2000's sometime.
  4. The original offer from Sky was purely designed to ensure the RFL threw its lot in with Super League and leave the ARL in Australia isolated. Some deft neogitiations from Maurice Lindsay got the money up from a rumoured £50m to a first offer of £77m and finally a deal signed for £87m. It does make you wonder what path the game in this country would have took had Murdoch not decided he wanted RL on his pay TV network in Australia back in 1995.
  5. Yeah, I sat down to watch the first half instead of getting on with some work. Very enjoyable. Looking forward to some of the pre-SL games they've dug out.
  6. I believe one of Cumbria's AM transmitters in Whitehaven was shut last year, so that might be why it's moving online only.
  7. I take your point on in game ads, but there's a lot more the AFL could do. Making room for ads in games is one of the few things the NRL could do. Of course Fox in Oz make a big sell of showing NRL and AFL games with no ads - it's their point of difference from the free to air networks. And it's with Fox that the AFL have just announced an increased TV deal. And yet when the NRL signed a deal with Fox earlier in the year, no value was mentioned, with a possible reduction. And yet, NRL consistently outrates AFL on Fox most weeks of the year. Maybe the man at the top of the NRL isn't all many on here make him out to be.
  8. To be fair, the NRL have always accomodated TV. Every match in the NRL is in a seperate time slot so every game can be shown live on TV. Most weeks of the year there is only one game in the crowd popular Sunday afternoon slot. A Friday 6pm kick off was brought in at the insistance of Fox with little regard as to whether it's good for supporters. And then there's night time Grand Finals and 22 minute half time breaks during Origin games so more ads can be shown. And Channel 9 do show ads during normal matches.
  9. I always liked the old green and white striped Warrington away shirt from 1993/4 ish, so that new away shirt is good. Shame the stripes don't go to the top of the shirt though. I'm never keen on too much yellow, but the home shirt is decent as well.
  10. NZ were competitive in finals matches over a 6 year period. Agreed. To be fair though, NSW did win a series in 2014, and the series in 2011, 2012 and 2013 were decided on the last match. As for your comment 'when it mattered, the international game was more competitive' - why was that period in time the one that mattered? Because it's the one period where NZ were matching Aus in finals wins, and Qld were in the middle of their record run? That's being a bit selective isn't it? The crowd figures for games between NZ and Aus, and TV ratings for the old mid season matches suggest there is an appetite for the international game (in the one game in Aus at the 2014 4N, the Brisbane crowd was nearly 48,000). As for not wanting Origin undermined, well it's a huge money spinner, gets huge crowds and generates massive TV audiences. Most RL bodies would (I'd hope) want that kind of tournament to carry on. The question is why can't you have both? You only have to look at 1992 when Australia staged not only an Origin series but also staged a Lions Tour. Full houses at each game and massive TV audiences to boot. But we switched to a summer season which meant it wasn't practical to have tours to Aus at that time of year. Why did we switch to summer? Because it would benefit the club game. In fact, most of the decisions which generally hold back the development of the international game are done in favour of the clubs in both hemispheres. If the Aussies got rid of Origin, it would just mean the NRL wouldn't have any 'distractions', well apart from the international rep weekend and the NRL clubs would soon want to get rid of that as well. In fact if Origin didn't exist, you'd be lucky if the clubs would agree to release their players for it nowadays. And SL clubs don't want more international competition unless it's at the 'end of the season'. Maybe one weekend to fit a quick international in, but make sure you get all those SL games in, repeat fixtures and all. Origin is an easy target, but it's the clubs that hold the real power.
  11. After the 2008 RLWC Final up to the end of 2014, the Kiwis won 3 games - 2 of those coming at the the end of 2014 (presumably why you picked that year out). Between the start of 2009 and September 2014 they won one out of 13 games (one draw). Hardly 'getting beaten regularly'. From 2000 to 2019 the Kiwis beat the Aussies in just 9 games - that's 20% of all games between the two. From 2010 to 2019 it improved slightly as the Kiwis won 23% of games with the Aussies. Against all nations, since 2000, the Aussies have won 85% of the games they've played in. Depressingly, since 2000, GB/England have won just 11% of matches against the Aussies. As a comparison, from 2000 to 2019, NSW won 45% of games, with Qld winning 53% (one draw in 2002). From 2010 to 2019 it went more in Qld's favour winning 60% of games - NSW 40%.
  12. The Anazc tests in May 2016 and 2017 were actually the biggest rating games of the year for Channel 9 outside of finals games and Origin. It's the end of season matches that see low ratings.
  13. Indeed. According to the always reliable Wikipedia, in 2018, 82,389 people in NZ identified as Tongans of which 75% lived in the Auckland region. Also, there's over 180,000 Samoans in NZ as well, so a succesful Samoan team has even bigger potential in NZ.
  14. True. And even then, the crowd for last years game against GB was a bit flaky. Even the 2017 RLWC QF against Lebanon in Christchurch only drew about 8000, so they're not the guaranteed sell out some suggest they are.
  15. Finance. The Tongan RL have always relied on the NZ and Aussie RL's to stage their games for them. It's highly unlikely that a game staged in Tonga would make money so until such time as the Tongans can organise their own games, or the IRL have enough money to help out, it's not going to happen. And the last I heard, the old Tongan RL body were taking the IRL to a court of arbitration over their expulsion, so it's all a bit messy really.
  16. When I read it I did think it was probably more speculation than informed insight, but who knows. If the story about Sky is true, then it may well be as you were. If Sky offer more for exclusivity, the clubs will go with the money.
  17. There was a line in this months Forty 20 about Channel 4 looking at a secondary rights package of 10 SL games a season and a weekly magazine programme.
  18. When QLD were winning 8 series in a row, NSW were still competitive and all but 3 of those series went to a decider. We, sadly, went 10 years from 1978 to 1988 without beating the Aussies once. And by the time next years RLWC rolls round, it will have been 15 years since we've beaten the Aussies in a single game. I'm 47 and I wasn't even born the last time GB or England beat the Aussies in a test series, or the last time we won the RLWC. Origin going 8 years with one side winning each series pales into comparison when you look at our record. Hope springs eternal that 2021 will be the year we stop the rot.
  19. France would be a great option, but has there ever been any indication from the French Federation that they would even look at staging the RLWC? And on the subject of 2025, did I miss the investigation into why the 2025 RLWC for the USA was originally awarded to a company with no experience of staging sports tournaments and which went bankrupt after staging one game?
  20. Because SS Mix is still part of the Entertainment pack (or whatever Sky call it now), you only get the HD version if you pay extra for the HD versions of the entertainment channels. I don't so I get the standard version of SS Mix on 416 with the HD version on 895 which is blocked. It's very annoying as the Sports package gives you all the other sports channels in HD, but SS Mix isn't despite it now being listed in with the sports channels.
  21. It wasn't even a news item. They run small features during the ad breaks, and one of these is 'What a Shot' which is a 30 second feature which shows photo images from sports events around the world. While watching the US election coverage last week I saw it a few times, and I saw the pic of the Wakefield v Leeds game as well as a photo from the Womens NRL GF as well (lots of US Sport featured, as well as football, cycling, Union and even the AFL GF).
  22. Yeah, read a similar article in this morning's edition of the The i newspaper. Great story and once again showing the benefits of international RL. I also didn't realise Ade and Matt Gardner had Brazilian parentage, hence Matt being the coach of the Brazil team.
  23. Looks like Matty Johns has had a similarly bizarre idea:- https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/state-of-origin/state-of-origin-2020-nsw-blues-v-queensland-maroons-matty-johns-old-trafford-fourth-origin-game-decider/news-story/4a077f27dddee65bd0289b3811d9d017 Putting aside any issues with playing another game of RL at Old Trafford, it wouldn't sell out in 'an hour'. In fact, I doubt it would sell out at all.
  24. According to BARB, Rugby AM made the top 10 shows on Freesports w/e 18th October with an audience of 5,300. On w/e 16th August there was an audience of 4,100. Most weeks it doesn't even make the top 10 watched shows for Freesports. Mind you, Freesports most watched shows for the last couple of weeks have only attracted around 15,000 viewers, so it's not the most popular of channels.
  25. Indeed. It's understandable if other journalists were aware of what the issues were at TWP, but no-one else was willing to actually put it into print. He copped a lot of grief on Twitter as a result from people who presumably thought he just had it in for TWP.
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