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4 hours ago, RL does what Sky says said:

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So you have no reason to moan about foreign travel then,unless you count travelling to Wales as expensive trips abroad.

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40 minutes ago, Davo5 said:

So you have no reason to moan about foreign travel then,unless you count travelling to Wales as expensive trips abroad.

So, am I only allowed to comment on items concerning my own club ?

If you don't think I should then please show me where you have made such adverse comments about supporters of Super League clubs when they have discussed items concerning Championship and League 1 clubs ?

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1 hour ago, londonrlfan said:

Paris or Marseille would be perfect, or even Nice or Lyon have good new stadiums. 

All a marked improvement on Anfield

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On 19/09/2019 at 08:56, Oliver Clothesoff said:

Trips to Perpignan, Toronto and a Magic Weekend in France within a nine month period in a predominantly working-class northern sport is farcical. 

Trips to Perpignan, Toronto and a Magic Weekend in Liverpool within a nine month period in a predominantly working-class northern sport are potentially NOT cheaper than trips to Perpignan, Toronto and a Magic Weekend in France within a nine month period........

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11 hours ago, Sports Prophet said:

Play it at Camp Nou 

Too big , and too far from France , if you are going to test the water in France , play it right in the centre of the French RLl supporting base , that is essentially Toulouse 

Possibly Montpellier as another option 

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11 hours ago, Sports Prophet said:

Play it at Camp Nou 

Would make it a big event, a great place to travel to, and it's possible to get 60k plus over the two days. Issue will be if the cost of renting the stadium is exorbitant. 

Otherwise Toulouse and a 25k ideally 40k ground works. 

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5 minutes ago, Southerner80 said:

Would make it a big event, a great place to travel to, and it's possible to get 60k plus over the two days. Issue will be if the cost of renting the stadium is exorbitant. 

Otherwise Toulouse and a 25k ideally 40k ground works. 

The question is " what are you trying to achieve with a MW staged in France ? " , If it is , to help build the games profile within France then you need it as accessible to the existing French RL supporters as you can , then it's in France , in the heartlands , that's Toulouse or maybe Montpellier , you only need 25 K plus as you want it full , plus you won't have the numbers travelling from the UK 

Done as a repeat event every 4/5 years it has some scope to work 

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18 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

The question is " what are you trying to achieve with a MW staged in France ? " , If it is , to help build the games profile within France then you need it as accessible to the existing French RL supporters as you can , then it's in France , in the heartlands , that's Toulouse or maybe Montpellier , you only need 25 K plus as you want it full , plus you won't have the numbers travelling from the UK 

Done as a repeat event every 4/5 years it has some scope to work 

I wouldn't say "full" is necessary Gubrats, but 75%. The nature of magic, its moving crowds and unreserved seating doesn't lead itself towards capacity crowds.

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1 minute ago, Tommygilf said:

I wouldn't say "full" is necessary Gubrats, but 75%. The nature of magic, its moving crowds and unreserved seating doesn't lead itself towards capacity crowds.

As I said though , I doubt you have the same numbers from the UK , and I'd expect the French to probably mostly just do the one day , certainly be a good atmosphere with a full stadium 

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On 21/09/2019 at 18:04, GUBRATS said:

Too big , and too far from France , if you are going to test the water in France , play it right in the centre of the French RLl supporting base , that is essentially Toulouse 

Possibly Montpellier as another option 

I don’t think it’s too big and I don’t care that it’s not in France.

Magic weekend is about being a carnival in new areas. Tick and tick.

Cheap to get to. A popular destination. Would be brilliant.

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1 hour ago, Sports Prophet said:

I don’t think it’s too big and I don’t care that it’s not in France.

Magic weekend is about being a carnival in new areas. Tick and tick.

Cheap to get to. A popular destination. Would be brilliant.

Problem is do Barcelona actually want it? Catalans' game was more about identity and local pride than money as far as I could tell. 

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It'd be good to see Catalans, Toulouse and the FFR to come together to work on a true "magic" weekend for France. Probably safer just to start as a day and build from there, get a couple of big supporter base English clubs involved to boost numbers.

Elite 1 game (Top 2 from previous season)

Toulouse V Bradford/Widnes/York

Catalans V Wigan/Leeds/Hull/Saints/Warrington.

Held in a 25-40k seater stadium.

And yes I know Elite 1 already has a "Magic Weekend".

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Have French Elite One Magic Weekend plus Catalan vs Wigan, Toulouse vs Bradford or something along those lines in Toulouse over two days.

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On 21/09/2019 at 11:59, GUBRATS said:

As I said though , I doubt you have the same numbers from the UK , and I'd expect the French to probably mostly just do the one day , certainly be a good atmosphere with a full stadium 

You might find as many people from England would go, excited by the one off France experience. Given the relatively low crowds at Anfield last year it’s not implausible, plus going all that way would mean people would probably buy tickets for both days. 

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1 hour ago, jim_57 said:

It'd be good to see Catalans, Toulouse and the FFR to come together to work on a true "magic" weekend for France. Probably safer just to start as a day and build from there, get a couple of big supporter base English clubs involved to boost numbers.

Elite 1 game (Top 2 from previous season)

Toulouse V Bradford/Widnes/York

Catalans V Wigan/Leeds/Hull/Saints/Warrington.

Held in a 25-40k seater stadium.

And yes I know Elite 1 already has a "Magic Weekend".

And a toronto home game against another English side with good travelling support. 

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On 20/09/2019 at 07:37, The Hallucinating Goose said:

Oh wait a minute, I see what I've done wrong, I wasn't paying attention and thought the £45 was just for the outbound journey... Idiot! Hahaha

Let me just assure you I am an experienced traveller and have negotiated some sodding dodgy booking websites before, Serbian and Hungarian railways being particular highlights, I will mark this one down as an hallucinatory error, though in my defence i was a bit distracted cos I was at work and my boss has caught me on my phone before and that woman can really shout! 

Anyway, point still stands I guess, still be half the cost to fly to South of France than to get train to Liverpool! 

Apart from the fact that you've missed out cost of getting to the airport and/or parking there for 2 or 3 days which is not insignificant, the 2 big flaws are 1.  that there is considerably more train capacity to get from anywhere in the UK to Liverpool/London/Cardiff than there is to fly from the UK to, say Toulouse and 2. If there was a big demand for flights on particular dates the price of those flights would increase markedly.

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1 hour ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said:

Apart from the fact that you've missed out cost of getting to the airport and/or parking there for 2 or 3 days which is not insignificant, the 2 big flaws are 1.  that there is considerably more train capacity to get from anywhere in the UK to Liverpool/London/Cardiff than there is to fly from the UK to, say Toulouse and 2. If there was a big demand for flights on particular dates the price of those flights would increase markedly.

Cost of getting to the airport depends heavily on where you live. Most people in the heartlands aren't exactly far from an airport that flies to the south of France so it won't cost too much to get to the airport. I've got return from Hull to Leeds on train for £10 before, just gotta know when to book, and then a few quid on the bus, I think its about a fiver from Leeds railway station to airport so £10 both ways there so add just £20 more to your costs. If you are in West Yorkshire or Lancashire it will probably be less cos you're closer to airports than here in Hull. Failing that find a mate that can drive you, not difficult, at least I can always find someone to do airport runs anyway. 

Yes there might be more train capacity than air but there are still a number of airports to choose from in the south of France and as I said originally, train travel on the continent is a lot cheaper than in this country which is why I said even adding a train journey into your flight would still be cheaper. 

I am aware flights would be more expensive but trains would be as well and you can book planes a lot further in advance than you can trains which gives you some leeway for getting the price you. Also think, if it was in this country a lot more people from this country would be going on trains plus in the fact there is often a few football games going on around the country with their fans travelling as well making trains fuller anyway so it would in part cancel out the larger capacity argument. Once train reservations are all sold you have to pay a standard fee which is astronomical. You could always just use your head and book a flight to somewhere a bit further away which would be cheaper and train the rest, oh wait I've already said that. It's only about 4 hours on the train from Barcelona to toulouse (I know, I've done it) so it isn't exactly out of your way. 

Of course you could always save money by going for a cheaper hotel as well and drinking a few less pints. 

If you use your head and know what you're doing you can do the trip for less than it would cost to have a weekend away in this country and as I said, I would rather have a weekend in the south of France than in a council estate in Liverpool. 

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