Debate? Discussion? Nah. just conditioned reflexes from the tap room. I think that fact that your pals have "liked" your response proves my point. A cosy but irrelevant coterie of old codgers trotting out their prejudices to a more or less empty room
Then offer some debate and discussion then rather than sniping and snide personal comments.
Entering this topic is like entering a 1950s pub...a bunch of typical last-century class-war labour lags sitting in their smoke-filled corner whining to themselves about price of mild and Woodbines whilst their working class heroes take the ###### out of them by flipping their second mansions.
Do you actually read the posts on here or just read the topic title and respond to what you imagine people would say if they conformed to your imagined image? There is often very little correlation between your responses to what has actually been said.
I think the topic is too narrow. The last decade has seen a real explosion in the media and politicians encouraging intolerance, after all it sells more papers and gets more headlines to highlight how bad those who aren't like us really are. It's not just against other races either, it's everything from benefit "scroungers" to immigrants coming here stealing all our benefits and jobs at the same time, to anything that comes from the EU while ignoring anything good, to attacking corporate greed while doing exactly the same themselves, to deliberately misrepresenting anything done by muslims, to pigeon-holing every jew as responsible for Israel's actions, to destroying the reputation of people because they don't agree with headline policies. I could go on all evening...
A very good example of it all was last year when the Daily Mail attacked Ed Miliband's dad for hating Britain for writing one line in his diary yet it was apparently not relevant that the Mail's owners around the same time were from the generation that openly supported and promoted Nazi ideals.
We're being encouraged to pick a side and hate the other side regardless of the truth that there's usually two valid sides to most things and life isn't as black and white as the numpties would have us believe. We're all humans, some of us have ancestors that got a better sun-tan than others, your choice of religion is usually down to where you or your ancestors were born. Attacking someone simply because of their religion, colour or country of birth is just as daft as hating someone because they were born a woman or blue eyed or broke their leg in an accident.
We're often encouraged to discriminate against others because we're strapped from cash, our NHS is overloaded or our country is full and cannot afford any more benefits. Unfortunately, that nice Mr Cameron made a mistake earlier this year and told the truth that we're actually a very wealthy and privilieged country. We have one of the lowest corporate taxation schemes in the world to the point that US companies are jumping ship to headquarter here rather than many tax exile countries, yet apparently it would be grossly unfair to punish companies by making our taxes the same as our other G7 competitor countries. We pay less in overall healthcare for our NHS than any other G7 nation yet the savaging of the NHS continues and the war is won in public perception that it's grossly inefficient and over-funded. We have one of the lowest population densities yet you'd think we lived in a concrete country going by the "we're full" comments of the anti-immigrant bunch. Immigrants keep our country going and have provided the backbone of our NHS and other industries for generations now yet immigrants are treated like they're ALL scrounger layabouts. We have a rising incidence of mental health problems in our country yet budgets are being cut and public perception is being directed by the government and media that these scroungers should just suck it up and stop claiming benefits. We are giving out more food parcels to genuinely needy people than ever before, people are actually starving and unable to afford to both heat their houses and eat, often neither, because of a deliberate campaign against scroungers through benefit sanctions.
And the politicians with the media that laps it up are happy to vilify every one of these groups, encouraging us to hate.
Just for the benefit of posterity, here's what Cameron said this year:
"My message to the country today is this. Money is no object in this relief effort, whatever money is needed for it will be spent. We will take whatever steps are necessary. We are a wealthy country and we have taken good care of our public finances".
That, to me at least, has to be post of the year. I don't recall seeing a better summary of our current political/media world point of view. It is a classic divide and rule approach, and it seems to be working a treat. Unfortunately. It is on the back of such divisive attitudes that the likes of UKIP thrive of course.
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money to spend."
Nice to see you still marching in step with her party propaganda.
She would know all about other people's possessions, she nicked enough of the country's assets and flogged them off cheap in her time.
Oh, and she was factually incorrect, a countries money and assets belong to the country and everyone residing there. So it is everyone's money, not other peoples. But then spending money for the benefit of society as a whole and not just the benefit of a privileged few (for example the royal mail give away itself) has never been the tory way, has it?