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gingerjon

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#3183340 Arise, Sir Ullman

Posted by gingerjon on 27 August 2015 - 05:59 PM

 

 

 

... There are now 111 Lib Dem peers and eight MPs, 

 

With rather shows up the absurdity of it all.  There are now 826 Lords compared to 650 MPs.  Democracy, eh?

 

Nobody from Ukip, Green, SNP or anyone else gets in this time.  But Douglas Hogg, who claimed moat cleaning on expenses, is now a Lord.  We can but hope he remains as diligent at claiming as before.  Nobody wants a peer with a dirty moat. 




#3179984 Eng V NZ Olympic Park tickets

Posted by gingerjon on 21 August 2015 - 07:54 AM

 

 

Edit: to clarify. It is trains only that come in and out of Stratford station. The strippers remain on stage in the pub.

 

Trainspotting and women you can't touch?  There must be a joke there somewhere.




#3179971 RFL Chief to meet clubs over kids format row

Posted by gingerjon on 21 August 2015 - 07:26 AM

It really doesn't matter who's right.  For the people in this fight if the RFL said the Sky was blue(*) they'd produce a detailed response showing that that's incorrect and that they have a committee of like minded people agreeing with them.

 

(* Yes, yes, I know in Lancashire the skies are gun metal grey).




#3179113 Labour leadership contest

Posted by gingerjon on 19 August 2015 - 03:00 PM

 

 

Throughout its history the Labour Party has had some wonderful, passionate speakers who have been able to draw a big audience and rouse them to show devoted support. Think of Bevan, Foot, Benn and Kinnock and no doubt many others.

 

I don't think Corbyn is in their class, but he is still performing very effectively, far better than the other candidates.

 

The trouble is that the electorate as a whole seems to be very suspicious of politicians who can rouse their audience, the best example being Kinnock's 1992 Sheffield speech.

 

Most people seem to recognise that raised passions often interfere with good judgement.

 

 

I think most people reacted badly to Kinnock's speech because it came across as staged Americana and was pretty presumptuous.

 

Plus he looked a right one.




#3178559 Royal owned London

Posted by gingerjon on 18 August 2015 - 12:21 PM

No I'd just put 'em to socially useful work

 

Guillotine testing could be socially useful.




#3178452 First Professional RL Player Comes Out

Posted by gingerjon on 18 August 2015 - 07:59 AM

It's news because he's pretty much the first British player to come out whilst playing our sport. The first people to do things usually do make news. If the support Keegan has gotten helps just one other person have the confidence to be who they want to be, then surely that's worth the coverage?  If it's still making news after the twentieth player then yes it probably shows there is a problem somewhere.

 

It was news - bigger news even - when the England women's football team captain came out.  Now, I don't know about you but based on knowing a few members of women's sports teams and general lazy assumptions, I'd kind of assumed that the default setting on women's sports teams wasn't straight.  Turns out it was a big deal for her - and turns out it was actually useful to other people for her to publicly come out rather than just have people assume one way or other.

 

I can remember being 16 in that there north (Cumbria in fact) and being round a table for one of those annoying debates schools make you have about ishoos.  On a show of hands on our table it went 6-2 in favour if making homosexuality illegal.  Not just immoral, not just something not to talk about but ... illegal.  That was the majority view in the room in the end as well.  I know for a fact that a handful of people in that room have since come out but not one of them lives anywhere near 'home' any more.  Can't think why.  By my maths, Hirst was 7 when my school was having that debate.  It's not ancient history, it's entirely relevant to why people might do a double take about a rugby player in Batley being gay - or why said rugby player might not have been entirely accepting of his own sexuality.

 

So, yes, it is news.  Not massive news - it didn't knock any real news off the front page.  But both the fact that he came out - and that the majority were accepting - is significant.  It's worthy of being reported and, given that it paints our sport in a positive light, I'm very pleased it has been so widely publicised.




#3178425 First Professional RL Player Comes Out

Posted by gingerjon on 18 August 2015 - 07:05 AM

78 posts removed from this thread which is, I think, a TRL record. That's nothing to be proud of.

 

You say that but, OTOH, that's going on my CV.




#3178112 First Professional RL Player Comes Out

Posted by gingerjon on 17 August 2015 - 02:50 PM

not really true though, this was discussed extensively in the interviews

 

Clearly not extensively enough because we only know all the details about the kids' ages, details of the break up and the current relationship between Keegan and his estranged wife.




#3177220 Royal owned London

Posted by gingerjon on 16 August 2015 - 02:57 PM

I knew the Oval was owned by the Duchy of Cornwall, isn't Surrey Cricket Club's badge the Prince of Wales's Feathers?  I know it's stupid but I make a point of never buying anything that says "Duchy Original" on it. I'm a bit of  a beer buff and like to try different ales, but I've never tried the Duchy Original Ale for example.

 

Yup, Surrey CCC have the Prince of Wales feathers and brown caps because of the association.

 

It is hard to be a Republican after you've tried Duchy Originals.  But then you look at the price and become a revolutionary communist.




#3176777 Abide with me

Posted by gingerjon on 15 August 2015 - 05:33 PM

 

 

As you will see, among other things it was a royal favourite.  Given that the queen and other royals have in the past presented the Challenge Cup to the final winners, maybe that was the connection which brought it into the sport.

 

According to the FA, you are entirely correct.  There was community singing before the 1927 FA Cup final and Abide With Me was included because George V, who was in attendance, liked the hymn and the FA wanted to make sure there was something he would enjoy.  It's never been dropped and rugby league adopted both the community singing, and the place for Abide with Me, from their first Wembley final in 1929.

 

EDIT

And Abide With Me must be something because even a republican atheist like me thinks it's a key and immovable part of the Challenge Cup final experience.  Messed up my holiday dates this year so won't be at Wembley this year - gutted to be missing what I think could be one of the defining moments of the rugby league family story.




#3176696 Labour leadership contest

Posted by gingerjon on 15 August 2015 - 02:03 PM

See, that's the thing... Cooper is probably the only one who can nail Cameron effectively but she just doesn't stand for anything.  I can see her being a hugely effective leader of the opposition but I'd worry if she were PM because I think she'd bend and sway at every shadily-funded focus group's findings.  She wouldn't want to go further right but would do it in the hunt for that elusive bit of good PR from the editorial columns.

 

The more I see of Burnham, the more I think that he'd be an even less effective version of Ed Miliband.

 

I think that's a fair assessment of both Burnham and Cooper.  And I do still wonder if Liz Kendall is in the Labour party because she is the ultimate shy Tory.


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#3175652 News on Broncos move to Trailfinders

Posted by gingerjon on 13 August 2015 - 05:58 PM

Absolutely - it's a personal sadness from me that it's probably the end of my being able / willing to get to Broncos home games from next season after 16 years of going pretty regularly (admittedly less often since they moved to Barnet).

 

As ManxRL points out, every time they've moved over the last 10 years or so, they've lost a number of regulars. On this occasion, I'm going to be one of them.

 

For a long time the Broncos had a core of support who could make every game and then a very wide group of committed people who lived in London/SE more broadly but an annoying journey away who would make as many as they could.  For a while I was in the first bit then I was in the second bit.  About fifteen years ago we had about 2,000 in that core, now it seems that it's 200 and probably about to get smaller.

 

I have absolutely no expectation that crowds will rise.  We are moving to what looks like a lovely community venue and the deal looks on paper better than we had at Barnet.  But I can't see anything beyond a claim that we can build a stand to be Super League ready and that we don't need to move until 2018 to suggest that the long term decline of the club can be reversed.




#3175651 News on Broncos move to Trailfinders

Posted by gingerjon on 13 August 2015 - 05:54 PM

As far as local residents are impacted there's a world of difference between building a gym and erecting a 4,000 seat stand.

 

Nonsense.  Planning is planning.  No chance that Saintslass is wrong on this one.




#3175436 News on Broncos move to Trailfinders

Posted by gingerjon on 13 August 2015 - 11:01 AM

It's been a while since we had a new dawn.




#3174893 Player welfare in soccerball

Posted by gingerjon on 12 August 2015 - 01:05 PM

Doubtful.  Keyboard warriors and sports writers love Jose.

 

To prove myself right: Here's p***bucket Martin Samuel in the Mail going all gooey for Mourinho

 

Staggeringly, the comments to a Mail article are more balanced than the article.