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Hahahaha. So in summary your team lost.

We lost that game ourselves Sweaty, don't go putting the blame at anywhere other than bad game management and unhelpful substitution's when we were 14 points up.

3:30pm (UK Time) French Elite 2 - Grand Final Lescure-Arthes v Villegailhenc No offence to the Rochdale & Swinton, but I might watch a bit of this. Two teams I haven't seen before, and a look at the playing standards of Elite 2.

Ref pulled them back into the game and was embarrassed so gave Leigh a pen to save his harris, Leigh not making the 4 will have serious repercussions and this ref may have cost many a person their job.

Smith is poor as always. Only funny part is plenty of Dewsbury pond life on tv - all crooked teef and getting excited. Dewsbury’s cup final.

I'll hold my hands up and admit that, despite not being in the more vociferous of defenders, I used to try and justify/make excuses about our questionable tactics. I don't think anyone wants to support a 'dirty' team so it's very easy with the aid of rose-tinted glasses to look for alternative reasoning. It probably didn't help that Rowley and Beaumont both fed off each other to create and encourage supporters to have a siege mentality of us against the world, they were two peas in a pod back then and i'm thankful that Beaumont seems to taken on a much more low-key role now. It's hard coming on to these sorts of forums when there is an unsavoury feeling towards your club. It is quite amusing seeing a minority of the TWP fanbase on social media now starting to pick up this same mentality.

This streamlined video ref is absolute bliss. I’m enjoying the matches a lot more in the knowledge that I won’t have to sit through long periods of padantic overchecking. I really hope they incorporate this into the Super League ?

Its quite a long time since I had my triple Heart by pass and it takes months to get over it with rest and plenty of physio. Nobody knows if they are going to have to go through heart surgery it can happen to anyone at any age and I would not wish it on anyone. Rugby is well down the list of priorities compared to a persons health. Let the rugby take care of itself and you look after whats important yourself. All the best Chris for a speedy recovery.

Really? Look what he's achieved for the club. It's just normal that a club that loses a number of its pivotal figures experience turbulence in performance and results.

Agreed, though when they get annoying, the ignore button is your friend. I use it sparingly but have two Fev posters on it due to exactly this kind of behaviour! Daft thing is, we really could have done with you beating them as overhauling fax was our best chance of a top six finish - for me, don't count yourselves out, all teams have a dip in form. You will be up there come the business end of the season.

Glad you recognise that EEP, but please explain to me why all those who hated Leigh, Rowley and his players who write on these pages, suddenly developed an affinity for Rowley and his players many of whom previously wore the Cherry and White of Leigh when they moved over to Toronto, I suspect that had it been another UK club they would have carried the same mantle of hatred.

Not an option unfortunately, presumably as the different camera angles create more doubt if nothing else as has been the case in the past. The video ref yesterday could only be used to check the grounding which I think is the future but that’s another topic. We were sat in the corner so were initially reliant on the reaction of the crowd. Odd for so many people to think it’s gone over if that wasn’t the case, but similarly there was one in the first half then people thought had missed but was given. When it comes down to it, the touch judges are all very experienced in their field and you’ve got to go with their judgement, although I will say they weren’t helped in their job by what look to be some VERY short goalposts compared to other stadiums. Very entertaining game played with tremendous intensity and it looks like it’ll be a real cracker when the two teams meet in Toronto at the end of June. Could be a scenario where we’ll be going over there desperate for a win depending on how we fare away to Toulouse a fortnight earlier.

Yes watching on Sky, and being someone who watches a lot of Rugby of both codes, Ive seen Kicks missed and given and vice versa , made but not given. (Pat Richards for Catalans put a conversion over in 2016, but it wasn't given in a home game, when it would have made in 34-34 with a few min left) For Me Reynolds got that, and surely it should have been TMO. I was gutted for Leigh. On the basis of this game, and seeing how SL is shaping up I can see these two doing well in the Middle 8s, and fighting to be 3-5 and either get the Magic 3rd place and up or end up in the MPG. I feel whoever of Cats/Hudds/Wakey/Hull KR ends up in the 8s is fine for top 2. Salford look MPG game material or worse. Widnes might find a little form in the 8s, and end up in the MPG or somehow scrape 3rd. Basically 6 strong teams in the 8s, the last 2 will take a few hammerings once the squad depth hits. Hope TO can make it for the 8s, along with London.

Thankfully a voice of reason. Leigh will still be in the qualifiers, their only potential loss for the rest of the season is the Toronto away game. They may well even be be the first team to win in Toronto. In the qualifiers, it will be another nail-bitter between the teams that could go either way. A tough loss today for sure, but when the 8s start, everyone is on zero points.

Whatever it is he has should be siezed upon by the military, nothing has ever got under the radar better than he has, the man eaens a fortune and is totally invisible.

Does a win in the RL Challenge Cup really affect the SL table?

Lots of Leeds fans love bagging McDermott and claiming his many accomplishments are the result of the work of others. Despite lots and lots of evidence to the contrary and the testimonies of many senior players. It will come right as it always does. Poor runs of form happen but if there is a beef it's with the players who have grown far too lazy this past decade through the regular season. I know trophies are won August-October time but it would be nice to go through a season without a crisis of one sort or another. I can only think of 2015 in the last 10 years where we haven't had some on-field disaster or other.

I'm surprised they picked this game as the first one. Both teams aren't likely to bring many fans over so surely it would have been smarter to place it in the middle, so that fans from the first game might have stuck around and fans from the final game might have turned up too. It's a shame to see such a thrilling game, and one that would interest neutrals, being played in front of empty stands.

Translated as "I'm dead upset cos my team lost, but we can't lose because we are too good, so I'm going to have a rant about the referee"

Fans can be unreasonable and far too demanding, not able to handle the ebb and flow that clubs/teams sometimes have to go through...coaches are supposed to be surgeons, able to fix an injury situation or a magician to produce a rabbit out of a hat.

Last time I checked 28 doesn't go into 19 so with Maudling,Akehurst,Hambley injured as per the website ,Leatherbarrow,Tansey,Rooke Ryan and Patrick may be just not selected. There doesn't have to be a story behind everytime a player isn't picked. Good luck today Town 30-22

We lost. We've done ok til may. Now we've lost a few some from other clubs like the kick back they get from a wind up. I don't know why the human race has a small percentage that find a need to behave that way.... i just accept it happens. I've seen enough to suggest top four is too optimistic this season.

Give it a go, you’ll be great

I do hope that his sponsor got a mention. (I don't have to keep mentioning on MY sig line two years after the event though PM.)

Depends how many tickets each club shifts given they retain everything they sell. Hard to see what the RFL makes out of it though other than any money from Blackpool Council. I did see plenty of RL shirts when walking down the prom with my Mrs and lad on Saturday afternoon though so it undoubtedly had a certain effect on the local tourism income, but I don’t see the Bash working as a concept anywhere other than Blackpool. On relfecion, they could have done with Fev vs Fax happening on the Sunday, but losing Bradford & Hull KR and only gaining Leigh was always going to cause a drop.

Sh** stirring again Donald been on the dark fruits again ? Maybe you should be more concerned about haven 2019 coming to a ground near you shortly.

Injuries, no injuries, not the point. Other than new lad Butterworth everyone on the field were season- long Batley players, part of a squad which is supposed to be there to fill gaps in such eventualities. Everyone was capable of doing the job they needed to and simply they didn't. Tackling was appalling, 2 tries gifted through not doing the basics of tackling men and legs rather than shoulders and shirts, passing was slow, predictable and lacked vision, game-management was absent, lots of chances to take drop-goals and retain possession, we would have won by a point had we taken the 3 clear opportunities which everyone sat within 2 yards of the coach were begging for. Far too easy for Dewsbury to spot and keep us quiet, I hear the rubbing of hands in Halifax from Blackpool, sorry everyone but that was just appalling, got what we deserved, no excuses.

Doom! Doom! DOOM!

But if thoughts are required, they are these.- Dewsbury’s cup final. Batley with many players out and without the fall-back of a big squad and Dual reg. It’s just a game. Batley will be around when many others flirt with administration or fall by the wayside. Big time Charlie’s and wannabes get way more upset than I am now. Up the Dogs!

Good debut from the BISSA lad!

Yes, although it's more that the referee needs a "minder" in France ?

There are some that have always had an obsession with it, others have been getting increasingly frustrated with the increasing interference from and referral to the VR stopping the game.

Toulouse 18:12 London at HT. If you're in Blackpool, and decided to skip the first game of what will be a long hot day, you'll have to hope the other matches are as entertaining as this.

18-12 TO XIII HT. A thoroughly entertaining half undeserving of the poor crowd In attendance (understandable though that is on several levels).

I try my best ?

From an outsiders point of view I think will be a fantastic achievement if Fev make the top 4. As the above poster says there is no replacement for being full time. Players being together all week, recovery time and treatment, fitness levels, squad depth etc. The division is a lot tougher this year than last. Fifth place in this division is a major achievement. Halifax blow hot and cold and I don't think they were particularly good yesterday but there always tough to beat and if they blow hot they can beat any team in this division. Injuries have played a big part lately in Fev's preparation and losing Ridyard is a major blow. Would love to see Fev get into the top 4 and knock off one of the FT teams but I feel you have to win at least 6 of the final 8 games and that won't be easy with Fax, Toulouse, London and Toronto to play. Next 3 or 4 weeks will tell against teams, that on paper, you should beat. But the lower teams are also now going to start pulling out all the stops in order to remain in the division. Potential banana skins. Best of luck guys apart from when you visit the Rams. I think we need the win at the moment more than you.

I have always found exactly the opposite in my experience. Never had a spot of bother with Leigh fans.

I'll see you there! ?

I've usually found that they're OK TBH. Only times I've ever seen trouble was a couple of games at Fev a few years ago, but that was a 6 and 2x3 situation. Every club has a selection of knuckle draggers that can't handle their ale.

You never know which Pakistan you'll get. Sometimes a panicky, disorganised rabble, sometimes seemingly at war with the world, including each other. Then, sometimes, inspired and united. Regardless of England's poor performance, we have seen a very good, mostly young, visiting team in action. Batting, bowling and fielding - all excellent.

Im happy to answer that Harry. Leigh unfortunately had a section of fans on this board and others who didnt endear themselves to many others. Plenty of us enjoyed watching Leigh earn their promotoin over those two years, but dont forget that there are instilled rivalries and bitterness already there that arent for Toronto.

There are loads of people who want Toronto to succeed. Every single rugby league fan should want Toronto to succeed, even if they don't like the guy who is coaching them right now. I think that desire to have a Canadian team do well and for an expansion gamble to pay off well makes people more forgiving of the way Rowley gets his team to play. It shouldn't though. The behaviour of the Toronto players in the Challenge Cup game, particularly their captain, was an absolute embarrassment that only shows the game in a negative light. Not that there aren't people who hate Toronto simply because they are an expansion club and want to blame them for the slow death of their own team despite the two things being entirely unrelated. However, Toronto should be called out when the behaviour of their players isn't acceptable, including those within the club who seem to encourage it (and seem to have encouraged such behaviour with their previous club too). At the moment it seems like they get a free pass because they're a bit of novelty.

Great goal by Bale , horror show by the goalie , and usual disgraceful cheating by Ramos . I love the WC but that’s the kind of cheatfest it also is to often . Anything to win now

Against a confident and nearly fully fit Catalans, it was always going to be a hard task. Not sure if Ward is playing injured but he had a shocker. You only have to look at the rest of our pack in that game to see how we can get steamrolled at times. There’s been some poor signings in the past couple of years. Leeds need to replace Galloway ASAP. They’re in a hole but it can be turned around. Myler was the one player to standout and had a very good return to Perpignan

Ha ha, you div.

I agree with sweaty for a neutral that game was handed to Toronto then a guilty pen at the end. On rowley he is a disgusting human being who wants expunging from our game. He works with clubs with money then try’s to make them thugs. He is limited and if he played as hard as his pathetic rant today he might have been a SL great. He needs ousting quickly he’s vermin and a parasite. I’m no leigh can either I’m just sick of his teams playing the same and today showed him and Toronto up again

Somewhere in between I guess. Catalans are taking steps forward. Leeds have been rubbish for a couple of months. Although their injuries are certainly a mitigating factor.

I also hear that most of the club chairmen don't rate him at all. No charisma, no energy, no ideas.

This int the refs fault..... we're simply sheeite!

Yeah he has changed nothing. I don't think I've really heard from him since his first couple of days when he constantly rambled on about his little black book and how him and his contacts were going to transform things. Well nothing has changed.