Griff9of13

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  1. Griff9of13

    The all-new-ish Brexit Thread

    And trash the economy, put people out of work and possibly even endanger life. What a true patriot you are.
  2. Griff9of13

    The all-new-ish Brexit Thread

    That's what comes of trying to convert fantasy into reality. It's not that leaving the EU is impossible, just that leaving and keeping to all the needless, self imposed UK government red lines (some of which contradict each other ) and adhering to EU rules that can't be altered without EU treaty (despite leading brexteemists stating otherwise) changes and without trashing the economy is far more difficult than any of the brexteemists falsely assured the public it would be. But I'm not just being a whiney "remoner"; I do actually think that brexit could have been achieved successfully with minimal disruption, but not the way that would have been acceptable to the politicians and, possibly more importantly, the press. On the previous thread I outlined the way I'd have gone about it. I'm not going to go through it all again, but it's there if you want to take a look. So don't moan at the likes of me who has been saying that the process of leaving would be tough, time consuming and intricate, direct your anger, if angry you are, to the likes of those above who have lied and lied again about the whole brexit debacle and their part in it.
  3. Griff9of13

    Those nice tories

    While Theresa May and the rest of the government are in "look over there" mode with the brexit diversion this has sneaked through almost unnoticed: UN Poverty Envoy Attacks ‘Callous’ UK Austerity Policies Not a good look for a country that is supposedly in the top 6 richest nations in the world. Shameful.
  4. Griff9of13

    The all-new-ish Brexit Thread

    Oops, you're quite right. However I hear that Suzanne whatever her name is has now left and the "crowd" is now down to three.
  5. Griff9of13

    The all-new-ish Brexit Thread

    The pitchfork wielding hords have descended on Downing Street to demand a "proper" brexit: By all accounts O'Flynn has been joined by Suzanne Moore and two others; they are currently outnumbered by journalists.
  6. Griff9of13

    The all-new-ish Brexit Thread

    I wouldn't worry too much; it must be getting close to that time of year for John to flounce off in a great childish huff, vowing never to return. Again.
  7. Griff9of13

    Those nice tories

    Parody accounts aren't all that obvious to spot these days; I've seen plenty of tweets from blue tick accounts that are much more outrageous (anything from that D Trump fella for a start).
  8. Griff9of13

    The all-new-ish Brexit Thread

    Also plenty of rumours about the imminent resignations of Gove and Mordant.
  9. Griff9of13

    The all-new-ish Brexit Thread

    Not sure about the ERG but those two things make me feel a little bit better about the deal. It's still terrible, but not as terrible as it could have been.
  10. Griff9of13

    The all-new-ish Brexit Thread

    Lots of knives and a very swift full frontal assault. Tory "loyalty" in action.
  11. Griff9of13

    The all-new-ish Brexit Thread

    It's entirely possible to soldier on with a new leader but without a GE. However, the new incumbent would still face the same hard facts; they have no majority in parliament without the support of the DUP. A "good" brexit remains as impossible as ever.
  12. Griff9of13

    The all-new-ish Brexit Thread

    Someone knows what they're talking about.
  13. Griff9of13

    The all-new-ish Brexit Thread

    Isn't the personal issue in these circumstances historically a tooth problem?* *Obscure reference to John Major's "excuse" for his absence from the Thatcher coup.
  14. Griff9of13

    The all-new-ish Brexit Thread

    Nigel Dodds now up and putting the knife in. I think it's safe to say that May won't be getting many DUP votes later.
  15. Griff9of13

    The all-new-ish Brexit Thread

    Unaccustomed as I am to supporting Corbyn but I actually thought he came up with a pretty good response, for once.