Dave T

Really disappointing that following a home World Cup we haven't been able to drive an uplift here. But then I'm not sure the World Cup overall was inspiring for anyone.

My understanding is that they can only look bac to the actual PTB. Any knock on was prior to the PTB, it was in the previous tackle.

He couldn't go to the VR is my understanding. It was in the previous tackle.

The knock on didn't result in the loss of the game. My understanding is that Captain's Challenge wouldn't have done anything about that.

Wouldn't that be a cost for RLWC though? And instead of paying for NZ, they pay for Samoa?

Wouldn't that be a cost for RLWC though? And instead of paying for NZ, they pay for Samoa?

Just spent the last 2 and a bit hours finally watching Lost Highway. Now I'll have to spend many hours reading about it to make sense of what I watched.

If it's intrigue we're after let's go the whole hog and have a Masked player whose identity is only revealed when voted out.

Admittedly I don't watch much Union so I've probably missed plenty of poor instances but I've never seen an issue with it tbh. I think pacing of a Union game is very different to ours, so they could easily speed it up. I would prefer the VR and the ref to work together.

The 'for show' bit. The whole thing is for show, it's sports entertainment, but I don't think their system can just be dismissed as that. I acknowledged that some decisions will be incorrect under any system.

I'm not sure that's true. I think the process of keeping the on-field ref involved in the decision is a good one.

I don't think it's perfect, and in Union they are quite happy to amble round and take a while doing everything, much like the players, but I do find it much better to understand and appreciate rather than our process of the VR often just keep watching the same thing. I do think it's better though now we can hear the VR.

I think it's more the conversational style of the review. It's like they work in partnership and the VR helps the ref make the ultimate call.

Yeah, I don't like the sport in the slightest, but RU does seem to do a better job around the Video Ref processes - in terms of the way the discussion happens and things are communicated as opposed to always getting the right decision which is always subjective. I think their approach does align with your proposal more and I do like it. I'm 50/50 on Captain's challenge, we did have it in the WC and I don;t think it added anything when seeing it live.

I agree about the point about some of the cameras not being perfect, but I disagree with the conclusion that your options are perfection or nothing. The vast majority of decisions are able to be reviewed just fine with the current setup, but there are some edge cases where the angles or pic quality are a little challenging, but most things are quite clear. We should continue to strive for better and keep learning, but it would be a backward step to refuse to have VR's with the current setup. On the Captains Challenge piece, I think it's just a personal preference tbh, I can see why some like it, and why some don't. I think it's a little bit of a fad really. in the same way it is in most other sports that have this approach. I can see why camera angles are challenging on this though, as quite often the challenge is around ball stealing, or fingertips for knock ons etc. and there aren't anywhere near the number and quality of cameras that there are in the NRL coverage.