Chronicler of Chiswick

Also the average attendance at SL games last season was much the same as the season before, in spite of Widnes being replaced by London whose average gate was under half theirs.

It's a hard thing to say, but the best thing to do is let the current club fold, and establish a phoenix club somewhere like Horsfall accepting that it'll be perhaps many years if ever that SL returns to the city.

This is very much a valid point, and not just for the attendance at the game, but also for the TV audience. If it had been yet another Saints - Wigan match I doubt if I'd have bothered to watch.

69134. All cardboard cut-outs.

I suppose it's too late to ask for a 'Haven't a Clue' button. 'cos after the way Salford have been going in the play-offs, I reckon anything's possible!

Fixtures are usually released in mid to late November. Obviously the powers that be in RL have a provisional outline already to allow for Toronto's promotion [cough, cough].

To be pedantic, 9858. Did the obvious thing and looked on the Wigan website!

Out of curiosity, does anyone know what the attendance was? Can't seem to find it anywhere!

Well done Salford, and hopefully a shot in the arm for the game in general - another Saints - Wigan game wouldn't have exactly got the pulses racing outside the two towns. Incidentally this is Salford's first appearance in a Championship play-off final since 1939, when they beat Cas 8 - 6 at Maine Road.

If the reported fee is right, could Cas be persuaded to spend some of it on the Gentlemen's Inconveniences at the Mend a Hose Jungle?

Heart wants Salford, head says don't be a prat - it'll be Wigan by possibly quite a lot.

Toronto should win quite comfortably, but how many of us reckoned that would happen last year?

Newcastle for me.

Toronto (a) because they finished top and should go up anyway and (b) because it will REALLY hack off some of the big noises running SL clubs! Also, Tubby, I seem to remember that a London club was a condition of the original SL contract.

I disagree about this being a trolling, it's a valid point, but we have, as has been pointed out, got to be careful about judging then by now. Harry Sunderland was probably no worse then most people of his generation (and there's quite a few around now). It's like in classical music where what's known as the chattering classes attack Richard Wagner for his anti Semitism while conveniently forgetting that just about everyone of his class in the nineteenth and twentieth century up until 1945 (when the full horrors of the Shoah became known) were as bad or worse than he was.