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  1. Yes but I don’t see EU nationals doing that so we could theoretically end free movement and keep an open border (for what it’s worth I would keep free movement if we could get a Norway deal)
  2. I don’t see why no FOM would be a barrier to having no border. Noone’s arguing for a visa requirement to visit the U.K. The situation would be no different to a Brazilian student in Ireland being able to physically reach the U.K. If the EU have ruled out all possible alternatives to a Customs Union then by definition they’re requiring one, surely? PS I wish you were right on this one, it would make things a lot easier for the UK
  3. The EU have said Northern Ireland has to stay in the Customs Union so that rules put a Norway deal. We could presumably have Great Britain having a Norway deal, and Northern Ireland being non voting EU members screwed over when exporting outside the EU. However, splitting the country like that wouldn’t be politically viable Suggesting we can stay in the Single Market and Customs Union is very different from suggesting we can have a Norwegian or Swiss model In fact the point Barnier makes in the link that we can only avoid an internal border if we stay in both the Single Market and the Customs Union proves my point and disproves yours
  4. That’s not remotely the same thing at all as a Norway deal as it would involve staying in the Customs Union. What he’s proposing is EU membership without voting rights and with permanent higher tariffs on exports outside the EU I explicitly stated this was an option earlier
  5. Schengen’s not a requirement for a Norway or Switzerland deal, they’ve chosen to join to avoid passport controls with Sweden, and allow commuters in more easily respectively. The EU’s insistence on Northern Ireland staying in the Customs Union makes a Norway or Switzerland deal impossible
  6. Yes but it’s not on the table even if we wanted it
  7. The EU has removed all of those from the table though. Barnier has been very explicit that the only options we’re allowed for a deal are: 1. Staying in the SM and CU, which is the most pointless thing ever 2. Putting a border down the middle of the country and having a basic free trade deal in goods
  8. The EU have arranged a wide variety of deals with third countries that aren’t on the table for the U.K. though. The Norway, Switzerland, Ukraine and Canada models have all been ruled out by the EU
  9. Ukraine aren’t a candidate or even potential candidate for EU membership. The deals the EU has with them, Moldova and Georgia are stand alone deals. The western Balkan states have similar deals as a step towards EU membership
  10. The Chequers agreement is almost identical to the EU-Ukraine Association Agreement in content though so it’s not a case of the EU having to apply its own rules (the Customs part is missing from the Ukraine deal though). Also if they can break the rules for Northern Ireland then that suggests it’s a political and not a legal decision to freeze Great Britain out of a back stop. Expecting a country to put a border in the middle of its country just to obtain a basic goods only FTA really is vindictive. The EU never tried to split off the French speaking part of Switzerland even though it heavily backed EU membership
  11. No one could have predicted just how incompetent the government would be or just how vindictive the EU would be, given they came to sensible arrangements with Norway and Switzerland after their referenda
  12. Not great, but I can tell you for nothing the government haven’t and won’t accept an Irish Sea border
  13. Well without a deal the EU wouldn’t respect the UK’s GIs anyway
  14. Basically if we are going to get a deal then respecting geographical indicators is a small price to pay. If we don’t get a deal then there’s really no point respecting them
  15. The U.K. never said they’d accept it and won’t accept it. They proposed a U.K. wide backstop and the EU said they’d accept that then changed their mind after the event
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