Furlough Scheme abuse

[Damien]

Just now, DavidM said:

He’s right . Spurs n Liverpool made 150 million profits . Non playing staff first to take a hit . Looks bad 

What I really like is the reaction of Liverpool fans, the vast majority seem disgusted by the actions of their club.

[gingerjon]

Just now, Damien said:

What I really like is the reaction of Liverpool fans, the vast majority seem disgusted by the actions of their club.

Quite. I really don’t have much of a problem with footballers, or other sports people, earning obscene money. The sports they play generate it. But the clubs, the owners, are wealthier still.

And it’s they who are taking the mick.

[DavidM]

7 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

Quite. I really don’t have much of a problem with footballers, or other sports people, earning obscene money. The sports they play generate it. But the clubs, the owners, are wealthier still.

And it’s they who are taking the mick.

Mmm , It was a good time to reveal Levy made 7 million last year 

[Damien]

4 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

Quite. I really don’t have much of a problem with footballers, or other sports people, earning obscene money. The sports they play generate it. But the clubs, the owners, are wealthier still.

And it’s they who are taking the mick.

Or indeed the likes of Joe Lewis, the major owner of Spurs who is worth £4 Billion plus and is a tax exile in the Bahamas. Whilst being a tax exile his club are quick enough to then want to use taxpayer cash to subside his club. It stinks.

[Click]

On ‎03‎/‎04‎/‎2020 at 19:00, GUBRATS said:

So they are RL trainers then ?

Just like most in any employment, if you need training to be able to complete your job role, then it will be covered in payment.

They're full time athletes, they're paid to play the game of Rugby League, and to do everything that comes with that - whether that is media duties, attending training sessions, community work, etc.

They have to maintain a level of fitness for their job, even if they aren't working right now. So they should be training

[GUBRATS]

2 minutes ago, Click said:

Just like most in any employment, if you need training to be able to complete your job role, then it will be covered in payment.

They're full time athletes, they're paid to play the game of Rugby League, and to do everything that comes with that - whether that is media duties, attending training sessions, community work, etc.

They have to maintain a level of fitness for their job, even if they aren't working right now. So they should be training

Yes , but ultimately if they don't play , their employment will be terminated , they will return to training ( proper team training ) for a period before they are in a position to play again 

[Click]

29 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

Yes , but ultimately if they don't play , their employment will be terminated , they will return to training ( proper team training ) for a period before they are in a position to play again 

Well that would be a decision for the RFL -

If the idea is that they are now off-season and will go through a new pre-season before the start of the next one, or if they want players to keep fit so they can come back for training for 2-3 weeks and then back to playing games.

 

[Damien]

Its good to see Liverpool have now reversed their decision to furlough staff. Its just a pity it took a backlash from fans and ex-players to make them see sense:

Liverpool have reversed their decision to place some non-playing staff on temporary leave and apologised to fans.

On Saturday, the club said they were going to apply to the government's taxpayer-funded job retention scheme, sparking a fierce backlash.

But in a letter to their fans, chief executive Peter Moore said: "We believe we came to the wrong conclusion last week and are truly sorry for that."

He added that the Reds have "opted to find alternative means" to pay staff.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52191140

[Damien]

Tottenham finally reversed their decision to use the Furlough scheme. Well done to their fans for putting such pressure on the board too:

Tottenham have reversed their decision to use the government's furlough scheme for some non-playing staff during the coronavirus crisis following criticism from supporters.

On 31 March, the club announced 550 employees would take a 20% pay cut in an attempt "to protect jobs".

But on Monday, a Spurs statement said non-playing staff will receive "100% of their pay for April and May".

Only board members will now take salary reductions, the statement added.

That includes chairman Daniel Levy, who earned £7m last year.

Levy said: "We regret any concern caused during an anxious time and hope the work our supporters will see us doing in the coming weeks, as our stadium takes on a whole new purpose, will make them proud of their club."

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Tottenham Hotspur Supporters' Club (THST) - which had on Friday urged the club to "do the right thing" and reverse the decision, saying "mass supporter opinion against these decisions had solidified" - thanked directors "for finding an alternative way forward".

"This is the first step, but a big step, in restoring relations between fans and the club," the group added.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52271235