Will the encouraging signs lead to increased attendances?

[Tommygilf]

1 minute ago, GUBRATS said:

Full or nearly full stadiums 

Which are more likely when big teams play eachother. 

[GUBRATS]

2 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

Which are more likely when big teams play eachother. 

So now you are suggesting loop fixtures 

The discussion is to try to achieve this at all games , but all we see is vague ' need to's ' , not actual real suggestions , including your good self 

[Sir Kevin Sinfield]

12 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

So it's now become a stadium and facilities issue ? 

It’s both, there isn’t a single solution to improving attendances, the 5 points below are all valid. 

1) Improve the product on the field, and a winning team always helps

2) Exposure on tv and other media

3) Marketing 

4) Stadium and facilities 

5) Match day entertainment creating an event around the game of RL

[GUBRATS]

1 minute ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

It’s both, there isn’t a single solution to improving attendances, the 5 points below are all valid. 

1) Improve the product on the field, and a winning team always helps

2) Exposure on tv and other media

3) Marketing 

4) Stadium and facilities 

5) Match day entertainment creating an event around the game of RL

No1 can only ever be a 50% success

No 2 we hope this season will make a difference 

No 3 is the eternal issue , and coming out of a pandemic will affect , it also can balance against no 1 financially 

No 4 isn't an overnight fix and only applies to a relatively small number of club now 

No 5 is what the discussion has become , but nobody can make a genuine suggestion to achieve 

Thank you for a rare insight and coherent post 

 

[Tommygilf]

21 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

So now you are suggesting loop fixtures 

The discussion is to try to achieve this at all games , but all we see is vague ' need to's ' , not actual real suggestions , including your good self 

Not at all, I want to build big clubs with bigger fanbases in a more exciting league with a larger amount of relevance. I don't really care how those clubs come about or where they are from. 

Clubs can build to that level by investing in themselves in ways that have been posited directly to you on this thread that you have chosen to belligerently dismiss. A good matchday experience is the facilities, is the catering, is the seating options, is the placement of certain types of fans, is having ambition to grow further even and generating news even. These aren't binary either, all RL clubs do most of them to some extent. It is a sliding scale, and several clubs are poor on that scale for many factors. That contributes to an environment that is limited in potential and stunts everyone.

This isn't a revolutionary idea, fans (home) already vote with their feet and wallets on this.

[GUBRATS]

39 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

Not at all, I want to build big clubs with bigger fanbases in a more exciting league with a larger amount of relevance. I don't really care how those clubs come about or where they are from. 

Clubs can build to that level by investing in themselves in ways that have been posited directly to you on this thread that you have chosen to belligerently dismiss. A good matchday experience is the facilities, is the catering, is the seating options, is the placement of certain types of fans, is having ambition to grow further even and generating news even. These aren't binary either, all RL clubs do most of them to some extent. It is a sliding scale, and several clubs are poor on that scale for many factors. That contributes to an environment that is limited in potential and stunts everyone.

This isn't a revolutionary idea, fans (home) already vote with their feet and wallets on this.

Again more vague need to's 

But anyway work to do 

[Sir Kevin Sinfield]

1 hour ago, GUBRATS said:

No1 can only ever be a 50% success

No 2 we hope this season will make a difference 

No 3 is the eternal issue , and coming out of a pandemic will affect , it also can balance against no 1 financially 

No 4 isn't an overnight fix and only applies to a relatively small number of club now 

No 5 is what the discussion has become , but nobody can make a genuine suggestion to achieve 

Thank you for a rare insight and coherent post 

 

No 5 there isn’t one model that’s right for every club, but look what Toronto Wolfpack achieved making an event around the game, Bradford did a great job of it in their glory days, Leeds have some kind of themed event and entertainment at every Super League game, when I’ve gone to Huddersfield, Wakefield or Leigh away (for example) there isn’t the same level of effort that goes into the event. 

[Man of Kent]

Happiness = good viewing facilities + decent food & drink + entertainment (ie the rugby) + atmosphere + marketing. 

[Wellsy4HullFC]

3 hours ago, GUBRATS said:

No 5 is what the discussion has become , but nobody can make a genuine suggestion to achieve 

People have made a suggestion, you have just dismissed them as they are not the silver bullet you're wanting.

All you've offered is "we need away fans".