NRL and International Footy

[Big Picture]

10 hours ago, ShropshireBull said:

All countries where association football are not the dominant code which is the massive oversight aussies make when chipping in. 

No for the ECB it is internationals.  Six nations gets buy in because it is nations playing eachother and gives them coverage against football.  The RU european cup doesnt register. 

Second SL is not going to out NRL the NRL so copying your model will merely be a game on life support with being a farm system for NRL.  Great for NRL.  Terrible for us.  Internationals are the sports Best and only hope of relevence in northern hemisphere. 

If that's true the sport has no hope of relevance in the northern hemisphere, because the casual sports followers who might get excited by the Internationals will most likely get turned off when they see how small and stunted the sport's geographic spread is.

You've completely overlooked that Internationals in soccer, RU and cricket are underpinned by a much greater geographic spread and that's what's made them such a big deal.

Edited July 21, 2022 by Big Picture

[Dunbar]

Isn't the answer developing the profile and value of the club scene and internationals the answer... not either / or.

No organisation in its right mind would focus development and growth on just one of its products.

[Scubby]

If the NRL loved international football as they keep saying then why aren't they helping the RLWC organisers secure an Australian broadcast deal? Nothing in it for them hey? 

[Dunbar]

2 minutes ago, ShropshireBull said:

No but if you were working on limited funds and resources you would target the one with greatest roi. That´s internationals on FTA or that sky will pay for in July to fill schedule. 

I am OK with you thinking that. 

[Big Picture]

27 minutes ago, ShropshireBull said:

RU isn´t exactly overflowing with geographical spread in England but still get millions to watch them when they play. Casual fans don´t need to become tragics to fund the sport, they just need to tune into the few events a year that we point out to the largest audience. 

RU isn´t exactly overflowing with geographical spread in England?  You do know that it's played up and down the country right?

If those few events are on the BBC (which can't afford to pay much*), just how will casual fans tuning in to them fund the sport?

* The difference of 431,607 £ in the RFL's TV income in 2018 and 2019 was due to the money the BBC paid for rights to the England-New Zealand matches in 2018, that amount is a drop in the bucket compared to what's needed.

[Big Picture]

42 minutes ago, ShropshireBull said:

You do know that its spread ends at Midlands and desperately clings onto manchester and newcastle because if Salford get the ground they have f all rep bar newcastle where we could eat them if Thunder got a game at magic.

Its spread at the Midlands eh?  That will be news to the forum members who've posted in the past about how much better the facilities etc. are at junior RU clubs in the RL heartlands than at their RL counterparts!

42 minutes ago, ShropshireBull said:

You know C4 have RL and can host internationals? Its a good job my arguement is we need to build a product in NH or You would have a point. Also your own argument shows internationals increased the market. Maybe more of them then no? 

Of course, and as I've learned this year C4 gets a smaller audience than BBC2, which in turn gets a smaller audience than BBC1, so how much are they paying to show RL this year?  That's a rhetorical question of course, neither of us knows because the figure hasn't been announced anywhere but chances are that it's not a lot.

My argument shows that Internationals increased the market?  If you're basing that on a pitiful 431,607 £ for four matches (or three if they didn't pay anything extra for the Denver match), I suggest you give up on the pretense that more Internationals are going to make any material changes because a bit more than 100,000 £ per match is peanuts in case you didn't know.

Edited July 23, 2022 by Big Picture