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[1976PMJwires]

This is a big problem with the RLFF. We spend too much time trying to find the negatives even when, as in this case, something positive has happened. It doesn't matter whether Warrington has a population of 90k or 9 million, an increase in support (and a profit) is welcome just as is Warrington's upward surge in form over the last two seasons.

First point, spot on.

Increase & a profit, second in the league, still in the cup.

How many of the other 13 SL teams would be happy with that???

I guess all of them

I also think the comments on here really do prove RL will never ever be a big sport.

some on here are just like the newspapers, negative, negative and love the BAD things in OUR beloved Sport giving them a chance to gloat.

I have interests in other sports, BUT my love is RL and we need to embrace as one.


RL needs to be gung ho

Spirit of the Squirrel
The Way of the Beaver
The Gift of the Goose

The first secret, the Spirit of the Squirrel, emphasizes the need for people to perform worthwhile work.

The second secret, the Way of the Beaver, explains why people should control the process of achieving their goals.

The third and final secret, the Gift of the Goose, which adds enthusiasm to the first two secrets.


wouldn't hurt any of us.

[Dennis Bloodnock]

First point, spot on.

Increase & a profit, second in the league, still in the cup.

How many of the other 13 SL teams would be happy with that???

I guess all of them

I also think the comments on here really do prove RL will never ever be a big sport.

some on here are just like the newspapers, negative, negative and love the BAD things in OUR beloved Sport giving them a chance to gloat.

I have interests in other sports, BUT my love is RL and we need to embrace as one.


RL needs to be gung ho

Spirit of the Squirrel
The Way of the Beaver
The Gift of the Goose

The first secret, the Spirit of the Squirrel, emphasizes the need for people to perform worthwhile work.

The second secret, the Way of the Beaver, explains why people should control the process of achieving their goals.

The third and final secret, the Gift of the Goose, which adds enthusiasm to the first two secrets.


wouldn't hurt any of us.

Well said grasshopper

[dallymessenger]

Wigan is more populated than Warrington, it is in Greater Manchester - a conurbation of millions of people, Wigan's stadium is much bigger than Warrington's, oh and not forgetting the Warriors are the most successful rugby club in the world. Both clubs are doing fine.

all the more reason that the attempt to brag about warrington is pointless.

nothing to brag about

[frombanginfront]

Souths would survive but would not be as bigger club without a celebrity owner and worldwide icon.

Russell Crowe has been good for attracting the likes of Burgess and some sponsorship deals, but he no longer tips in his own money, and is no longer really required for securing major sponsors or gun players. The club makes a profit primarily on the back of our strong membership base and good policies, which Crowe pushed, but is no longer required to pilot.

Warrington are doing reasonably well with what they have, but like just about every other club they are afraid of plunging into the abyss. So marketing is a bit of an afterthought because of the outlay required. It's seen as a gamble rather than a sound investment. A shame really. Having a rich backer whom you know is in for the long haul, rather than just saying they are, is one way of getting past those fears. The other route would see a central fund for all clubs, spent by the RFL, catering to marketing and other areas such as club investments or development funds. But then, that would require the RFL to be forward thinking as well. They have improved greatly in recent years, but matters needs to be further developed.

If the RFL or NRL were forward-thinking they would look to doing all of their marketing, design and video production in-house, enabling a much greater output for a similar cost factor to what is currently being spent.

[giwildgo]

How can a positive be turned into a negative.

Only in Rugby League.

Glad Wigan and Widnes fans can offer congratulations, Thanks and well done guys.

I agree - an RL club making an operating profit is good news as it is unfortunately rare. Can't understand why it should be turned into a negative or trolling session.

Notwithstanding the rivalry between our clubs, I have a lot of respect for the Warrington club and their management who have clearly made such strides on and off the field from where they were 10 - 15 years ago. SL would be better if it had more success stories like Warrington.

[giwildgo]

First point, spot on.

Increase & a profit, second in the league, still in the cup.

How many of the other 13 SL teams would be happy with that???

I guess all of them

I also think the comments on here really do prove RL will never ever be a big sport.

some on here are just like the newspapers, negative, negative and love the BAD things in OUR beloved Sport giving them a chance to gloat.

I have interests in other sports, BUT my love is RL and we need to embrace as one.


RL needs to be gung ho

Spirit of the Squirrel
The Way of the Beaver
The Gift of the Goose

The first secret, the Spirit of the Squirrel, emphasizes the need for people to perform worthwhile work.

The second secret, the Way of the Beaver, explains why people should control the process of achieving their goals.

The third and final secret, the Gift of the Goose, which adds enthusiasm to the first two secrets.


wouldn't hurt any of us.

My gifts are being saved for Wigan.

Edited by giwildgo, 29 July 2010 - 05:58 AM.

[1976PMJwires]

all the more reason that the attempt to brag about warrington is pointless.

nothing to brag about

Go and eat some kangaroo $h1t sport.

It's a turnaround for Wires, years and years of debt, SELLING our best players to stop the Debt..... and now a total and utter tw4t from Down Under giving us more and more.

Why i am raising to your trolling????? Because i don't agree with any part of your opinion, and boy your poor excuse of a person.

[1976PMJwires]

I agree - an RL club making an operating profit is good news as it is unfortunately rare. Can't understand why it should be turned into a negative or trolling session.

Notwithstanding the rivalry between our clubs, I have a lot of respect for the Warrington club and their management who have clearly made such strides on and off the field from where they were 10 - 15 years ago. SL would be better if it had more success stories like Warrington.

Spot on and thanks.

[1976PMJwires]

My gifts are being saved for Wigan.

Gift of the Goose

E=Mc2

[dallymessenger]

Go and eat some kangaroo $h1t sport.

It's a turnaround for Wires, years and years of debt, SELLING our best players to stop the Debt..... and now a total and utter tw4t from Down Under giving us more and more.

Why i am raising to your trolling????? Because i don't agree with any part of your opinion, and boy your poor excuse of a person.

rather than being emotional take a step back and look at the points ive raised

im spot on

the club are hardly anything to brag about. a solid club no doubt but the HJ was built too small.

as a neutral the SL clubs i think are worth bragging about are wigan and hull fc

Edited by dallymessenger, 29 July 2010 - 06:50 AM.

[RP London]

Ok lets compare wires crowds to hull kr

kr share the city of hull, play in an older ground and have a strong local soccer side and only average 2000 or so less than warrington

and good luck to them.. but this is a thread about warrington and how the last couple of years hve seen an upward trend in the way the club is going..

warrington just arent a big club

they're one of hte biggest we have here.. it may not be anything to compare to australia but we are in two very different countries with two very different public profiles.. they are doing things right ad growing in a sustained way.. this is something to be pleased and proud of for the warrington club

this recent run of success is due to a sugar daddy and isnt sustainable

it is sustainable, just becuase it is due to a sugar daddy does not mean it always has to be such. If you can get the club on a sound finanial footing then ifsaid sugar daddy pulls away you have a team that can either look after itself and so doesnt need a sugar daddy or you hae left the club in a much better position and one where another sugar daddy would be interested in buying into the club meaning that it coninues on.. there are clubs based on sugar daddy;s who are not doing this and so will be unsustainable if htey ever pull out, but warrington are going about it in the right way to make it so that they dont need one.. thi is intelligent and again something to be proud of.

you cant build a strong SL side on crowds of just over 10,000

agan you may not be able to in australia where the average crowds of your competitors are higher but when this average is in the top ends of hte super league average tables then yes you can, by being one of the best supported it "should" (if everything is done right) mean you have more money to attract players, you have more cudos with players as you start to win things and you have a good ground and atmosphere that players want to play infront of..

wires crowds were just as high a few seasons back. the CC hasnt done much.

which is a fair argument.. back it up wit the fact and have THAT argument becuase the one you are having has as many holes in as a culinder.

it should be sold out each week

it should be in your opinion, and it is moving in that direction.. it is right for warrington to pat themselves on the back fr moving towards this situation in a time of financial difficulty unprecedented.

yeah so if the latics got relegated, there wouldnt be a massive rise in the warriors gates?

course there would

some clubs are stronger than others

warrington strike me as a lazy club

Why would there be? Wigan is a Rugby town and the League comes first still (this may change over the years while wigan stay in the top flight).. there may be some people who walk away from wigan football but that doesn mean they go and support a different sport they may well just go and support another football team (if they were that fickle..) one thing you have either forgotten or ignored.. the two seasons dont overlap that much so the people who want to watch the league can still do so without it damaging their ability to watch the football and vice versa... The uplift would not be massive.. there would be some i am sure but it would not be massive..

Warrington are taking huge strides in the community they aer not a lazy club they are just using their limited resources in the best way they believe they can be used.

Ok, lets look at wigans crowds :

1. wigan 15,793
2. warrington 10,500 approx.

<snigger>

so much for winning the CC final being a big boost.

a club with a history second to none vs a club of underachievers for so long where the fans have only just started getting the success they have felt they have deserved for the past x number of seasons. no supprise that there is a difference in the crowds.. winning the CC can still be a boost even if the numbers are smaller than the most succesful Rugby team in this country in history..

all the more reason that the attempt to brag about warrington is pointless.

nothing to brag about

just becuase someone has a stronger history than you does not mean you shouldnt congratulate yourself (in your words brag) about the advancements that you have made in trying to catch up..

This is a good news story FFS we dont seem to have that many of them.. but trust league fans to try and make it bad news!

[Exiled Wiganer]

A problem with this thread is of course its originator. After years of "Wigan hairdressers can't cut straight" headlines it is impossible to see anything from Bellendall without fearing the worst.
Plus, in our culture it is generally poor form to spend all day every day patting yourself on the back.
It is good that Wire are generating some good news off the field, as the next few weeks look like they could be pretty trying on it.

[Dave T]

A problem with this thread is of course its originator. After years of "Wigan hairdressers can't cut straight" headlines it is impossible to see anything from Bellendall without fearing the worst.
Plus, in our culture it is generally poor form to spend all day every day patting yourself on the back.
It is good that Wire are generating some good news off the field, as the next few weeks look like they could be pretty trying on it.

Of course you are right, but anybody who can't discuss a serious topic just because of Wendall's posting history is as bad as him.

Let's be honest he spouts ###### abaout every team, although most of his posts are started by a press release, which says something about the quality of the press coverage our game gets!

You make a point of saying that Wendall makes a dig at Wigan in every post, yet you can't help but do the same about Warrington.

As I said in one of my first posts, had this been any other club, it would have taken the same format, most fans saying it is positive, with an Aussie coming on comparing it to the NRL.

[Matt J]

no competition from premier league soccer

If we totally ignore Liverpool, Everton and Blackburn Rovers , who have quite a few fans in the town, mainly the Liverpool teams.

Its great to see a team over here growing.

[thirteenthman]

Spirit of the Squirrel
The Way of the Beaver
The Gift of the Goose

The first secret, the Spirit of the Squirrel, emphasizes the need for people to perform worthwhile work.

The second secret, the Way of the Beaver, explains why people should control the process of achieving their goals.

The third and final secret, the Gift of the Goose, which adds enthusiasm to the first two secrets.


wouldn't hurt any of us.

Squirrel?
Beaver?
Goose?
I don't know what you've been taking, but I'd lay off it for a while if I were you.

[Exiled Wiganer]

Of course you are right, but anybody who can't discuss a serious topic just because of Wendall's posting history is as bad as him.

Let's be honest he spouts ###### abaout every team, although most of his posts are started by a press release, which says something about the quality of the press coverage our game gets!

You make a point of saying that Wendall makes a dig at Wigan in every post, yet you can't help but do the same about Warrington.

As I said in one of my first posts, had this been any other club, it would have taken the same format, most fans saying it is positive, with an Aussie coming on comparing it to the NRL.

I hope I'm not as bad. That is very hurtful. And after I confidently predicted a home victory on Saturday as well.

[Dave T]

I hope I'm not as bad. That is very hurtful. And after I confidently predicted a home victory on Saturday as well.

Apologies, I always know it gets to people comparing them to Wendall, but then I always feel a touch guilty!

[Exiled Wiganer]

I feel torn when I read some of BoaB's wilder conspiracy theories. Can't criticise a passionate Wiganer but it is hard not to cringe by association.

[Odsal Outlaw]

New stadium, increase in crowds, cup success, operating profit ........... how can this be anything other than a positive. Good on Warrington.

I played at Wilderspool last week and it reminds you of what a dump it was. Since they moved ground I think they have been an assett to SL. They have had a few indiscretions with their fans I believe, but on the whole I think they are a great example of what SL is about.

The stadium probably could be bigger, but on a positive it means it feels full and has a great atmosphere every week!! You can pick negatives in anything, but why not just say, for once, well done Wire, keep it up.

[Dave T]

New stadium, increase in crowds, cup success, operating profit ........... how can this be anything other than a positive. Good on Warrington.

I played at Wilderspool last week and it reminds you of what a dump it was. Since they moved ground I think they have been an assett to SL. They have had a few indiscretions with their fans I believe, but on the whole I think they are a great example of what SL is about.

The stadium probably could be bigger, but on a positive it means it feels full and has a great atmosphere every week!! You can pick negatives in anything, but why not just say, for once, well done Wire, keep it up.

Because they are lazy and not as good as the NRL. Keep up!