My personal opinion is that we couldn't be doing a better job to destabilise the club and team spirit if we were opponents. Where were all these comments last year when we went 7 games on the trot winning and with 3 or 4 Wigan players in the team then. Why don't we all just let the coach and his staff sort it out between them as it is them that will carry the can if we don't survive this season in this league? Of course if you are expressing the view of a disgruntled player then they should be talking to the coach about it, surely!!!
The whole argument regarding the Championship is the imbalance in central funding that allows some clubs to be full-time and the rest part-time.
SL clubs get an equal share of the pot so why the distinction for the Championship. Say, Leigh get promoted this season and SL introduce a similar central funding system whereby Leigh receive £1 million but the top 4 clubs are receiving, say, £3.5 - £4 million, is anyone going to say that Leigh and the others with them at the bottom end would not be using the same argument that we find in the Championship this season?
Our defeats are not all down to our new players they are down to mistakes by all members of the team, some more than others. After the Rams game we fans talked on here about our kicking game and today I heard the commentator, who was watching us for the first time this season, say, on several occasions that the kick went straight in to the arms of a defender and gives him another 10 - 20 yards up the field. How many times did we hear that we looked to have a chance of scoring then Ohhhhhhhhh we've dropped the pass? Certainly by the scoreline today I think you could list quite a number of missed tackles by most members of the team.
Ivans82, after being a Town supporter and following them for 66 years I think I am not only qualified to give an opinion but also have earned the right to give my personal opinion on what I see without someone, who doesn't agree with me, telling me that I should stay at home if I don't share their opinion. Players put themselves in the public gaze every time they play and I'm sure they all love to read lots and lots of good things about their play and therefore they have to be prepared for things they might not like to hear or read when they aren't performing. At the end of last season our best player for several games was Carl Forber and he got plenty of praise on this forum by people who maybe earlier had been critical of his play and that's a similar situation now.
As for citing the Dewsbury player for the injury to Forrester, if the Match Review Panel have anything about them they will pick that up when they review the DVD but looking from the popularside where the cameras are situated it might not show the contact with the knee but it should definitely show the late flop that caused it. I was amazed when Leatherbarrow did nothing about it but then held the game up for a couple of minutes until Sam received treatment. At the very least he should have put it on report.
I think we really need a reality check when we discuss DR and our team strength. Yes it would be absolutely great to not have to rely on any SL team to help us out with players and have our own squad of 30 plus players all of top quality for this division and give the coach one big headache every game and no players whinging because they are not getting selected. Sadly, when reality kicks in what we see is that we have a squad of 24 (?) and some are not of top quality for this division but nevertheless useful players. We are surviving on some of the poorest gates in this league - 682 on Sunday and 761 last night - and we are expecting to sign top quality players for peanuts it seems. When, as in other seasons, we get a spate of injuries (and heaven forbid players taking a holiday) where do we go for players to fill the gaps if not through DR. Remember Gateshead away at the end of a long hard season when we had half a team out injured or suspended or on holiday and we played with 15 players, a prop on the wing and two players on the bench who were never going to play!!!
Like it or not there are times when DR has been and will be our Godsend but it is also a two way thing and we can't expect to get SL quality players to help us out as and when we want without something in return, which ultimately means that at some point the coach at Wigan will ask us to give one of his players returning from injury a run-out, as happened with Lee Mossop.
When we see crowds of 1250 or 1500 coming through the gates then by all means lets tell Wigan or whoever, bye bye, but until then it is what it is and accept it for that. Yes, one or two players might get their noses pushed out from time to time and their friends start shouting the odds and running down the system but there will also be times when the team needs these DR players to be able to merely complete a fixture. And that is the bottom line.
Graham the last rain we have had was last Thursday so the pitch should be ideal. Take a look at the highlights of our game on Sunday on the Eagles TV and you will see grass, lol. It should be a good game.
I might be wrong but im sure it was either Forber or Jack murphy with the pass for sams try - either way it time for a settled side, all ifs and buts what if we played 17 and got 10 injuries what if this what if that .. end of the day were desperate for a W on wednesday, lets give Latu and Horton time yes but do we have time maybe no .. what im expecting is .. more of the same from them IF selected on wednesday .. but a BIG improvement come the next home game after 2 trips to Bradford... if its more of the same ambling about walking onto a ball then im afraid questions need to be asked ! Im pleased there no DR for Wednesday, just as I predicted lets see what some of these guys who haven't had much game time can do, they have a chance its up to them to take it,
My final point on DR is yes Jack Murphy is a decent player, but Im sorry if I expect more from others that are coming from a first team environment from probs the biggest club in the country, they should stand out .. simple as especially people that are actually getting game time in wigans first team, applauding them for "trying" just isnt cutting it .
It was Forber who threw the long pass, caught by Murphy and he passed on to Sam. Highlights are on Eagles TV. And I was wrong it was Doran who chipped over the Eagles defence for Horton to re-gather and it should have been a try.
Maybe we expect too much too soon from the DR players... If you've ever started a new job and work with about 12 or 15 others how long does it take to get to know all the other workers never mind what jobs they do. It must be very similar for these lads coming in not knowing half of our players or how they play. They will only find that out by getting game time with them and not just parachuted in as and when we are desperate as some advocate.
The best of the storm played the Aussies as did Wigan. Who fared better?? Or did the Aussies have a better team out at DP.
Think we've cleared that one up?
There was only 3 or 4 Cumbria lads in the team that played the Aussies though and the rest were made up from Academies in the North-East, the Midlands, etc. All the lads that played for Wigan Academy had been together as a squad and trained by the same people for much longer than the Regiions Academy team, so not really a comparison.