Dave T

I'm just surprised you're surprised mate

No, your grading lasts one year. If the next October you've dropped to rank 13, you're out.

Slide 8 and 9 of this deck. Reimagining Rugby League Presentation – MEDIA_27Sep2022.pdf (rugby-league.com) Slide 8 highlights that "Category A - Top Tier Participant on a Permanent Basis" - whatever that means. Slide 9 highlights that 2024-2026 will have 12 teams, and then we move into 202? we would expand (on the basis of us having more than 12 Grade A teams. It doesn't address what happens if we have more than 12 A teams in advance of that. I am conscious that things may have moved on since this was published (September 2022) - but it is still there on the RFL website under the strategy docs.

This is fair - I don't think the thresholds are too onerous, but we aren't at 14 yet, or anywhere near - clubs may be hovering around that 12-13.5 mark, but as you say, it is difficult to make that last step. My main frustration here is that this was always going to be controversial, and tbh, very boring - I think they had to land the strategy and associated comms well - and they just haven't. The Grade A point is just confusing. It means nothing. Grade A gets you nowt. Yet at the start of this Grade A guaranteed you permanent SL status and gave you that security, but there is no security if your score is changed annually. The loose comms around how may teams they will have in SL is poor too. It is just vague statements, basically kicking the can down the road. I don;t think they appreciated how fixated people would get on these 0.25 scores etc.

Indeed. Suspended fines can only work if it is a significant fine hanging over them. It's a weird decision.

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The point that is absolutely explicit is that A grade clubs are guaranteed an SL place. So if we manage to get 13+ A grades at the end of this year, I have no idea what they will be doing. Tbh it's another example of poor implementation, or poor communication at best.

Most people posting here have little to no real rivalry with KR. I have to assume that RMT's criticism isn't driven by club rivalries. I'm not sure why you are trying to turn this into an FC v KR thing.

Suggesting that what they have done wasn't that bad compared to others does nothing other than defend them. There is literally no other reason to post that.

Hmm. So this sponsorship was such a bad decision that you wrote to the club to complain, but anyone else complaining about this sponsorship is just having a dig at your club?

Firstly, it was a tongue in cheek post, but I would add that your post stood out as maybe the only one I've read here that absolutely could be read as any kind of defence of P&O's actions (or downplaying rather). So all the above is commendable, but the defence of P&O was jarring.

This isn't an interview for a major political party spin doctor mate

It's a weird take to criticise RL fans here. The story here is that RMT were criticising the deal, this wasn't just RL fans having a moan.

Why you underestimating us?

To be fair, there are some good points there about player welfare. But while he may be disappointed he has to act better than he did.