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  1. Fair play fellas - you've fished me back in with those classic comments. Priceless! I'm learning all about loyalty from people who say they'll stop supporting their club if they can't get promoted to Super League - that's outstanding loyalty right there! And one of you is refusing to go and support the national team because you don't like the coach!!! Phenomenal loyalty! Remind me to make sure that I've got a pair of loyalists like you either side of me when it's time to go over the top of the trenches! I'm off to go and learn about loyalty now, because evidently I've been operating under a different definition all these years...
  2. That's a bit disappointing - I thought you were above childish comments and wanted a genuine discussion which is why you kept coming back to it. I'm out.
  3. Not from a commercial point of view. It's about total numbers. Total numbers of eyes of branding, total numbers of subscriptions sold etc. The Leeds support may be a smaller proportion of cake compared to somewhere like Leigh or Featherstone, big it's a far far bigger cake.
  4. For me, yes. I believe we need the biggest clubs with the biggest supporter bases (or the potential for the biggest supporter bases, given typical fluctations around form) ring-fenced in the top division in order to maximise commercial opportunities.
  5. I bet some youngsters who grew up watching Hull FC in Super League did. If KR disappeared tomorrow, then a big chunk of fans would also disappear. But over time, those youngsters with no affiliation who are predisposed to enjoying rugby over soccer would gravitate towards Hull FC as the biggest game in town. I expect the same would happen with Leigh and youngsters gravitating to Wigan. Kids will see something that inspires them and gravitate towards that. It's why some kids in India fall in love with Manchester United, for example. And now the same thing is happening with Liverpool, because they're the big team who are inspiring youngsters. 15-20 years ago it was Arsenal and Chelsea. This has been the case throughout my lifetime, with very few kids at school wearing shirts of the local football team, and most wearing shirts of whoever was most successful at the time. Moreover, by your logic, any fans that a club loses due to relegation would be replaced by an equivalent number of fans supporting the promoted club, so any difference in overall support for the game would therefore be negligible. I personally don't think this is the case, as some clubs are bigger than others, which is why I believe that the game needs to ring-fence those bigger clubs.
  6. And by the same argument, if he's wrong then any 'damage' would be repairable. Why? It isn't like kids growing up in Birmingham who have no idea what rugby league is. As you say, they have big SL clubs already on their doorsteps that the best players already gravitate to.
  7. What is the squad make-up of typical Championship clubs? Do they draw a majority of players from their own town, or do they recruit ex-academy players from Super League clubs. Genuine question - I don't know the answer. I'm not convinced this would be the case. Clubs like Leigh East and Wath Brow were consistently strong in the NCL during licencing years, despite being in areas where the pro team wasn't in SL. With the SL clubs now having to run reserve teams, there are still going to be plenty of playing opportunities for players to aspire to. Looking forward, if there wasn't a pro club in Leigh, wouldn't local youngsters who enjoy rugby ultimately just end up popping the 5 miles up the road and gravitating to Wigan for their pro rugby fix? Not every town has a pro cricket team but it doesn't seem to stop talented players gravitating to their most local county.
  8. As someone who unfortunately hasn't been to either, would the atmosphere at the new ground be markedly better if they had standing down one side like Warrington do?
  9. So does licencing. With the added benefit of clubs being able to put together long-term business plans and long term player recruitment and development plans, without the fear of potential relegation after just one season hanging over them.
  10. No doubt a few, but I've not heard a compelling enough argument to convince me that P&R in its current format is in the sport's best interests.
  11. Yeah that's fair enough. I was just being a tool for a cheap laugh.
  12. Hasn't this issue been highlighted by the players' union? I.e. clubs are offering multi-year contracts and then trying to tear them up if the team gets relegated, because the money is no longer there. This is yet another issue with P&R. Clubs have to offer multi-year contracts in order to compete for players, and then can't fulfil them if they get relegated. As has been mentioned before, there ain't enough money in the sport.
  13. I think perhaps the bigger issue is that it will clash with Countryfile on BBC1. This will massively impact attendances...
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