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Over the last few years I took an interest more and more in the NCL Leagues.  This stemmed from watching NCL teams play in the Challenge Cup, then I would follow results etc. and am now have gotten to the point where I could just about name every team in every division.

One thing I was curious about though, I have worked out where most of them are on the map, but I was curious, is there any team playing that comes from outside of Yorkshire, Lancashire or Cumbria? 

If not, which team(s) are the 'final outpost' teams then?

I recently read about Sherwood Wolf Hunt joining one of the Yorkshire Leagues.  It would be great if they could some day work their way up to NCL.

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Hemel played in the NCL for some years before joining the pro system (playing in the reserve grade). I think there was a Nottingham team for a while. I think both of those were late 80s/early 90s. London Skolars were in there about 97-01. 

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Wow, that really is going back a long way!

Hemel I believe, dropped back to Southern Conference nowadays.  Quite a drop from League One, but hopefully that will be a good boost for the Southern League.

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1 hour ago, Nomad XIII said:

Hemel played in the NCL for some years before joining the pro system (playing in the reserve grade). I think there was a Nottingham team for a while. I think both of those were late 80s/early 90s. London Skolars were in there about 97-01. 

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Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits.

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On 03/05/2020 at 11:05, langpark said:

Over the last few years I took an interest more and more in the NCL Leagues.  This stemmed from watching NCL teams play in the Challenge Cup, then I would follow results etc. and am now have gotten to the point where I could just about name every team in every division.

One thing I was curious about though, I have worked out where most of them are on the map, but I was curious, is there any team playing that comes from outside of Yorkshire, Lancashire or Cumbria? 

If not, which team(s) are the 'final outpost' teams then?

I recently read about Sherwood Wolf Hunt joining one of the Yorkshire Leagues.  It would be great if they could some day work their way up to NCL.

 

On 03/05/2020 at 15:28, Nomad XIII said:

Hemel played in the NCL for some years before joining the pro system (playing in the reserve grade). I think there was a Nottingham team for a while. I think both of those were late 80s/early 90s. London Skolars were in there about 97-01. 

Coventry Bears were in NCL before they entered League 1. Bristol Sonics and Nottingham Outlaws amongst others were also in the Rugby League Conference which was comparable.

Wolfhunt have entered YML 5 so are some distance away from NCL currently but I expect they'll get promoted pretty quickly for the first couple of years. 

Nottingham Outlaws applied for NCL in recent years but the league wanted to see further progress with junior development first, and we have since changed our mind on what is most appropriate for us.

The difficulty with applying for teams outside the heartland is on meeting some of the non-playing factors. As an example, if you recruit heavily from the student game but don't have your juniors in an organised league, you may struggle to evidence hitting some of the criteria. 

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On 29/05/2020 at 01:51, Saint 1 said:

Coventry Bears were in NCL before they entered League 1. Bristol Sonics and Nottingham Outlaws amongst others were also in the Rugby League Conference which was comparable.

Wolfhunt have entered YML 5 so are some distance away from NCL currently but I expect they'll get promoted pretty quickly for the first couple of years. 

Nottingham Outlaws applied for NCL in recent years but the league wanted to see further progress with junior development first, and we have since changed our mind on what is most appropriate for us.

The difficulty with applying for teams outside the heartland is on meeting some of the non-playing factors. As an example, if you recruit heavily from the student game but don't have your juniors in an organised league, you may struggle to evidence hitting some of the criteria. 

Interesting.  Yes Wolfhunt seem to be a serious, ambitious club, but will obviously need time.  I see they only have the open-age team at the moment as well. 

Out of interest, can you tell me more about the criteria?  I had a look on the NCL website, could not find any information there.

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13 minutes ago, langpark said:

Interesting.  Yes Wolfhunt seem to be a serious, ambitious club, but will obviously need time.  I see they only have the open-age team at the moment as well. 

Out of interest, can you tell me more about the criteria?  I had a look on the NCL website, could not find any information there.

They do run some juniors,  though I'm not sure how many.

I can't tell you the full criteria to be honest, it was a couple of years ago when we looked at it. From memory, there was some stuff about needing juniors, a reserve team, a clubhouse within view of the pitch, I can't remember what else.

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Right, all sounds like pretty essential stuff there.  I was only going off what I saw on their website, which stated they only had a men's side.  Perhaps the juniors are in the process of being formed now.

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8 minutes ago, langpark said:

Right, all sounds like pretty essential stuff there.  I was only going off what I saw on their website, which stated they only had a men's side.  Perhaps the juniors are in the process of being formed now.

It's just their website hasn't been updated. They ran an u15s team in a Yorkshire League in 2018 but i believe didn't have the numbers for it last year. However, they have been present at the last few junior festivals at Outlaws (where I coach).

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On 28/05/2020 at 23:51, Saint 1 said:

 

Coventry Bears were in NCL before they entered League 1. Bristol Sonics and Nottingham Outlaws amongst others were also in the Rugby League Conference which was comparable.

Wolfhunt have entered YML 5 so are some distance away from NCL currently but I expect they'll get promoted pretty quickly for the first couple of years. 

Nottingham Outlaws applied for NCL in recent years but the league wanted to see further progress with junior development first, and we have since changed our mind on what is most appropriate for us.

The difficulty with applying for teams outside the heartland is on meeting some of the non-playing factors. As an example, if you recruit heavily from the student game but don't have your juniors in an organised league, you may struggle to evidence hitting some of the criteria. 

Some very good sides entered into the YML 5 division for this season, not sure if they'll keep their full winter squads because most have players who have been playing elsewhere in the summer, I know Moorends had recruited well with many of their local players committing who have either been playing elsewhere or laid idel, the lads who have been playing union have also brought a handful of excellent young union lads with them.

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Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits.

http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/

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