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  1. Egremont sent their second team to Lock Lane in March 2015. They lost 98 - 4. They then won the National Cup. That result , in splte of much later season success , almost cost them their Premier status. They were only saved from relegation by a points difference of 25........ That's the risk you take when you enter the Barla Cups. The NCL fixtures are in stone from January every season ( subject to change by mutual agreement ) . Blank days such as Bank holidays and catch up dates are well known to Barla who I understood would use those dates when they could. Failure to complete an NCL fixture has draconian consequences. What team a club chooses to send remains of course a matter for them , whether that be for a League or Cup game. But all NCL clubs know the score.... That said a number of clubs have given it a go. The last non NCL club to win the National Cup was Sharlston Rovers as long ago as 2014. Looking to the present , Mayfield are really well placed in the Premiers ( currently 3rd ) whilst Lock Lane prop up the Division at the bottom. Orrell St James are quality opposition but I might have been tempted nevertheless Never though a good thing especially at national level for any club to get a walkover into a once prestigious final.
  2. Groundhog day. Have a look at Page 2 of this thread as long ago as Nov 2021...... All the points simply being repeated once more. And yes RL Cares ( rightly or wrongly ) holds the brief for the project. At least they seem not to have been spending any of their hard earned charitable income in this direction just yet., certainly not over the last 3 years....
  3. This game is too close to call. The politicians perhaps know differently . I heard at a local game last night that Martin Offiah's guest at the match could well be a certain Sir Kier Starmer. I have no doubt that he actually doesn't care about the outcome but a roll back of the Red Wall and with that the games true heritage and with that recognition is for me more than welcome
  4. A sufficient majority at NCL to pass it was not achieved last time, clubs clearly indicating they were unsure and more work on the detail was needed. Once that work was completed and presented the vote was easily in favour. The dual registration at CARLA was always extremely limited in nature, as you probably know well and borne out of desperation as because of player numbers the very existence of CARLA itself was in question . The Children's leagues introduced rules to try to mitigate the impact on numbers created by the Scholarship / Academy system, but again were very limited in scope. Limited in all three cases to players signed within the last 12 months and only able to return to their junior club and nowhere else ? What the NCL did was not come late to that party, but rather set up a brand new one with far more invitations issued. Whether that helps put them in the progressive or conservative camp I'll leave to our posters........
  5. The NCL is member controlled unlike virtually all other Leagues who are RFL owned and do what they are told. The take up by those leagues was last year minimal - perhaps half a dozen for the whole of Tier 5. NCL management hammered out the new regulations with the RFL to the point where they felt able to put it to their members to vote it in , which they did to some success. I prefer it that way. Tier 4 clubs ,the top of the community game, are of course clearly much more attractive to pro clubs who want to share their talent. On a separate but related point, the NCL have been driving the issue of Amateur compensation to the clubs who have been producing talent for the game over the last few years ( to a large extent their own members ) and are pleased to see that at the next grant release to the Pro clubs in July approx 90K will be redirected back down to the grass roots. Maybe I misunderstand your thinking but do not accept for a minute any innuendo that the NCL and its members are anything but progressive in their efforts - wish quite frankly it was an attitude more prevalent in the game.......
  6. As of last weekend some 40 players are now duel registered with NCL clubs . This is increasingly looking a ' win win ' situation for the NCL initiative with both clubs and players benefitting......
  7. It might be worth remembering that League 1 clubs , whilst subject to Tier 1-3 Operational Rules ( which can be costly ) do not in fact have to pay their players anything or be ' semi Pro '. as such. They can have up to 40 players registered and they can all be amateur if that is the model that they choose to operate...
  8. And the fine print can be found on Google under ' Betfred Championship and League 1 Restructure 2024 -2026 dated 13 march 2024 courtesy of Rochdale Hornets......
  9. Sorry the reference should be for the Rugby League website under League 1 competition , article dated 17 May.
  10. totalrl.com/forums/index.php?/topic/392351-applications-to-league-1-open/page/13/ How and why is all here. More of a solution to keep League 1 going rather than an expansion plan as such? About a dozen clubs have made informal enquiries I understand. An RFL panel is now working on the entry requirements which will then go out for formal expressions of interest - decision due by September.
  11. The RFL for the first time have opened up the application process to all clubs regardless of geography, not just so called development areas. Why ? Desperation maybe to ensure that League 1 can become more viable ? It appears on here at least to be a common view that the current situation for League 1 is dire. It is therefore no surprise that Bramley have thrown their hat into the ring. Whether or not that is a good thing is a matter of debate. What is certain is that the clubs so far mentioned all play at very modest levels at Tier 5 in Division 3 or 4 of a Regional league, or in Bedford's case at Tier 4 ( notionally at best ) in the SCL. None have the facilities, little finance and even less of a player complement to leapfrog in general quality terms the 60+ clubs able to class themselves as Tier 4. , straight into Tier 3. I can't blame them for their aspirations, which are admirable. Are they visionaries though or just dreamers ? The RFL have a big task on their hands to assess if any of these clubs really have what it is going to take - if they get it wrong another even bigger disaster for League 1 awaits...
  12. You can add to that list. The common thread was that they all tried to run before they could walk - Carlisle, Scarborough, Mansfield etc. And none of them were looked after properly by the Governing Body.
  13. You can do both but it is not easy. The Aussies manage it and so do 'local' R U clubs. Both Preston Grasshoppers and Rossendale in Lancashire , hardly movers and shakers, offered NCL players £ 150 a game last year. Same happens in Yorkshire. Our game needs to think wider but to do that you have to have administrators/ volunteers with special talents - we just don't have enough of them.....
  14. They never got it right , and still won't. 'How do you solve a problem like Maria ?' ' Maria ' is and remains the NCL but the RFL would not at the time allow any of them to move up. Yes that NL3 was a development concept but was also supposed to be the bottom rung of the ladder until they realised that to implement it would have to involve in some way the NCL clubsi standing on that the ladder .. Promotion / Relegation throughout the game just on results of on field performance then abandoned by the RFL., horrified at the prospect of existing members being challenged locally. Not a development club in the country could then overcome the Heartlands standards at community level ( that includes NWML and YML ) and to be brutally honest still can't. So yes I still say that whilst NCL standards are a blockage to new clubs , allowing new entrants unless they can show better should be resisted. Sugar daddies not hiding behind company accounts however always welcome ! Perez no longer by the way a person of significant interest in Cornwall I see, with a deficit of 300k on last lodged accounts. League 1 so clearly attractive.......
  15. Really entertaining debate. My views on some of the later points: IMG have no interest below SL . They have not been commissioned to expand club numbers , simply the product for monetizing it. All clubs received a grading guidance just to resolve the pecking order. Moving from B's to A's is their sole brief. C's are the grade for all other clubs at all other levels.The RFL remain responsible for everybody and everything else. League 1 is not and never has been a Development league. It is semi professional and the clubs in there need at least 200k each year to sustain themselves. There are no existing outfits outside League 1 in our game that can continue to finance their current activities and find at the same time the finance and staffing to step up. The status / structure of that level of our competition perhaps needs to change - to being simply 'Open' Non heartland amateur leagues have for the last 30 years at least in various formats failed to deliver a level of performance that might have justified promotion of a club. Most became a disaster, with foundations on sand. New thinking was always to be encouraged but reality , as now , trumps everything. We once ( 2003 ) had 100+ clubs outside the traditional areas, from Aberdeen to the South Coast , who flourished but then faded largely because of lack of RFL priority investment. Certainly do not expect it now. Whether the NCL is a Benchmark or a blockage - a historical nuisance - is moot- but what is certain is that unless an Applicant can show it can better Tier 4 standards ( and I am not taking SCL levels here ) and be genuine Tier 3 then entertaining such a club will have an inevitable result. The 2 clubs mentioned here quite frankly do not have anything like the squad ,facilities , finances or back room staff . They would be brand new entrants to , at this level ,a pretty ruthless attritional sport. Not at all sure that would be either good for them or the Game in general...... .
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