Next season

[TerryM]

We were relegated due to off the field performances this year not by what the players did on it  .  That's a fact and on that basis everyone off the field at Whitehaven should accept responsibility and  walk.

 

If the people in charge had recruited enough payers so we could field 17 eery week and aid the players on time I genuinely believe we would have stayed up.

 

Lookin a head we need to start signing players .  We have teo signed Newton and Holiday I suspect.

 

We need a coach not Murray he presided over a very average season at Town  with a squad that will be similar to the one w have . I don't think that's the right appointment imo.   A local aature coach with credability in local game would be more suitable.

If Bishop wasn't signed I would recruit him for experience and to lead the Team . He lives local so will head to Town Haven or Barrow in all liklihood 

Assume our other Aussies will find pastures new.

If its true we have 85k central funding it should be enough for  competitiveleague 1 team.

[Neutralfan7]

Bloody hell you're back out from hiding Terry/holmsey... What was your thoughts on today's game? Or did you not go?

[JMB]

On 29/09/2024 at 18:43, TerryM said:

We were relegated due to off the field performances this year not by what the players did on it  .  That's a fact and on that basis everyone off the field at Whitehaven should accept responsibility and  walk.

 

If the people in charge had recruited enough payers so we could field 17 eery week and aid the players on time I genuinely believe we would have stayed up.

 

Lookin a head we need to start signing players .  We have teo signed Newton and Holiday I suspect.

 

We need a coach not Murray he presided over a very average season at Town  with a squad that will be similar to the one w have . I don't think that's the right appointment imo.   A local aature coach with credability in local game would be more suitable.

If Bishop wasn't signed I would recruit him for experience and to lead the Team . He lives local so will head to Town Haven or Barrow in all liklihood 

Assume our other Aussies will find pastures new.

If its true we have 85k central funding it should be enough for  competitiveleague 1 team.

Think you will be lucky to find a local coach to take the job, and the club doesn't and hasn't had any tied players at the club now for a couple of months, all down to the club breaking the player's contracts when they couldn't pay them, so a lot of work to do now getting a good BOD in place with someone with a good successful business background to take the club forward. 

[Marrafan]

2 hours ago, JMB said:

Think you will be lucky to find a local coach to take the job, and the club doesn't and hasn't had any tied players at the club now for a couple of months, all down to the club breaking the player's contracts when they couldn't pay them, so a lot of work to do now getting a good BOD in place with someone with a good successful business background to take the club forward. 

3 Directors added today. Eilbeck, Pennington and Barry. Nothing changes one little bit. 

[Neutralfan7]

1 hour ago, Marrafan said:

3 Directors added today. Eilbeck, Pennington and Barry. Nothing changes one little bit. 

If there's no one else to come in then what do you want to happen? 

[Marrafan]

12 hours ago, Neutralfan7 said:

If there's no one else to come in then what do you want to happen? 

Where does this change come from? The statement issued is a load of bs. The same person has ran the club for years and the same happens year on year. All he’s added is the same yes men. Ask yourself why no one else comes forward?

[Neutralfan7]

2 hours ago, Marrafan said:

Where does this change come from? The statement issued is a load of bs. The same person has ran the club for years and the same happens year on year. All he’s added is the same yes men. Ask yourself why no one else comes forward?

I'm prepared to believe the club in the statement they've put out, this season has been a wake up call for a lot of people. I also think having someone like Ortus as our sponsor they will help guide the club with business plans/forecasts etc.

It's honestly time just to leave the negativity behind, you don't have to like who is on the BoD but without them (and their own money) the club wouldn't be here.

I believe it's personally an exciting time at the club, yes the season and relegation is disappointing by what an opportunity we have now to reset and build the club up again when it looked on the brink of extinction, if everyone works together then the future could be very bright.

And yes, I'm a glass half full guy

[Marrafan]

16 hours ago, Neutralfan7 said:

If there's no one else to come in then what do you want to happen? 

 

1 hour ago, Neutralfan7 said:

I'm prepared to believe the club in the statement they've put out, this season has been a wake up call for a lot of people. I also think having someone like Ortus as our sponsor they will help guide the club with business plans/forecasts etc.

It's honestly time just to leave the negativity behind, you don't have to like who is on the BoD but without them (and their own money) the club wouldn't be here.

I believe it's personally an exciting time at the club, yes the season and relegation is disappointing by what an opportunity we have now to reset and build the club up again when it looked on the brink of extinction, if everyone works together then the future could be very bright.

And yes, I'm a glass half full guy

Good luck to you, I used to be. Eilbeck has been in charge for how long now? He had the begging buckets out back in 2017/18 when someone wanted to take over. Year after year the same. The club has not been managed in any way shape or form stumbling from one crisis to the next, year upon year. All with one common theme one man.

He does not like anyone that questions him. That’s why he surrounds himself with yes men. I have spoken to a few players and others down there and the way he treats players etc is terrible except when there’s a good win and he wants kudos taking them out on the drink. We saw that with Dion this year. Hope I’m wrong words mean nothing without action. We’ve heard it before it’s actions that count and I can’t see anything that says the culture of the club will change. Just give the masses morsels to keep them interested.

[Neutralfan7]

12 minutes ago, Marrafan said:

 

Good luck to you, I used to be. Eilbeck has been in charge for how long now? He had the begging buckets out back in 2017/18 when someone wanted to take over. Year after year the same. The club has not been managed in any way shape or form stumbling from one crisis to the next, year upon year. All with one common theme one man.

He does not like anyone that questions him. That’s why he surrounds himself with yes men. I have spoken to a few players and others down there and the way he treats players etc is terrible except when there’s a good win and he wants kudos taking them out on the drink. We saw that with Dion this year. Hope I’m wrong words mean nothing without action. We’ve heard it before it’s actions that count and I can’t see anything that says the culture of the club will change. Just give the masses morsels to keep them interested.

I'll make sure to keep you informed as I take it from your negativity that you won't be following next year

We must be the only club who get a small minority people coming on social media just to slate the club over anything and everything never anything positive 

[Marrafan]

26 minutes ago, Neutralfan7 said:

I'll make sure to keep you informed as I take it from your negativity that you won't be following next year

We must be the only club who get a small minority people coming on social media just to slate the club over anything and everything never anything positive 

Why do you assume I won’t be there. Am I negative just because I’ve read the same blurb I’ve read before and seen nothing happen? As supporters do we just blindly believe every word that comes from the club? Haven’t missed a game in years, wished I could to more away but circumstances dictate I can’t.

All I’m asking you is to show me anything that suggests:

1. What lessons have been learned from the chaos of the last umpteen years and where do I see that change.

2. Same people who have been devoid of any ideas about anything other than fleece the spectators for years back in charge. Don’t see anyone of these be able to take us forward into the 20th never mind 21st century.

Don’t give me the old give them time etc. Eilbeck has been in charge since what 2015 or so?

 

[Neutralfan7]

It seems like you have a personal feeling towards Eilbeck, airing out these things in the public domain isn't healthy. If you want to DM me then we can carry this on but I'm not one for getting in ######-for-tat on a public forum

[Marrafan]

5 minutes ago, Neutralfan7 said:

It seems like you have a personal feeling towards Eilbeck, airing out these things in the public domain isn't healthy. If you want to DM me then we can carry this on but I'm not one for getting in ######-for-tat on a public forum

You say I’m negative. I’m asking you what hope you can see of a change of direction with the same people in charge who have been in charge for a number of years? No personal agenda. Eilbeck is the man that “has a significant control” and regards himself as owner. He has presided over the chaos and it would appear to have no control the business model he has if any. I am getting tired of hearing the same old ###### and being asked to put my hand in my pocket because of a Board that are incapable of even getting people in the sponsors or even sponsors. 
 

If you don’t want a public discussion on a public forum don’t post so anyone can answer. Bit late after you’ve already done it.

 

[Haven 123]

Tell you now, with the way they treated Jonty & Des it’s embarrassing there aloud to walk back in like nothing’s happened. Lost a lot of die hards, be lucky if they get 400/500 watching them next year. 

Edited Tuesday at 17:15 by Haven 123

[Neutralfan7]

Same old every season regarding them, people don't like them but won't do anything about it and are just happy slagging them off, if you care so much then get on the board yourselves and make some changes

 

[Neutralfan7]

1 hour ago, Haven 123 said:

Tell you now, with the way they treated Jonty & Des it’s embarrassing there aloud to walk back in like nothing’s happened. Lost a lot of die hards, be lucky if they get 400/500 watching them next year. 

I agree it was poor but it's not all one sided, folk have a go at the club for asking Amor to take over as coach, yet, Jonty has come out himself and said he was speaking to town for MONTHS about being their coach, he was tapping up havens players whilst still being haven coach about players going with him next year!!! But no we won't mention that we'll just paint the club in a bad light as well want to slag it off whenever we can 

[Marrafan]

2 minutes ago, Neutralfan7 said:

Same old every season regarding them, people don't like them but won't do anything about it and are just happy slagging them off, if you care so much then get on the board yourselves and make some changes

 

Instead of coming out with the same stock answer about going on the Board convince me why I should join a Board that obviously can’t run a bath without the fans paying for it never mind run a business.

[Neutralfan7]

2 minutes ago, Marrafan said:

Instead of coming out with the same stock answer about going on the Board convince me why I should join a Board that obviously can’t run a bath without the fans paying for it never mind run a business.

Not up to me to convince you to do anything, you're a grown adult, seems you're just happy having an argument over a difference of opinions

[Marrafan]

31 minutes ago, Neutralfan7 said:

Not up to me to convince you to do anything, you're a grown adult, seems you're just happy having an argument over a difference of opinions

Let’s go back to your opening post in which you say you believe the Club Statement. A perfectly acceptable view. I am an opposite view which I’m trying to put and tell you why I disagree with that. I’m asking why you believe the way you do and convince me I’m wrong. It is not being negative it’s having a discussion.

Look forward to an adult discussion instead of the usual replies full of childish emojis.

[donald]

2 minutes ago, Marrafan said:

Let’s go back to your opening post in which you say you believe the Club Statement. A perfectly acceptable view. I am an opposite view which I’m trying to put and tell you why I disagree with that. I’m asking why you believe the way you do and convince me I’m wrong. It is not being negative it’s having a discussion.

Look forward to an adult discussion instead of the usual replies full of childish emojis.

Why don't we just stop all the bitching see what happens in next few weeks regarding plans new coach and players as its gonna be a complete rebuild next season

[Neutralfan7]

12 minutes ago, Marrafan said:

Let’s go back to your opening post in which you say you believe the Club Statement. A perfectly acceptable view. I am an opposite view which I’m trying to put and tell you why I disagree with that. I’m asking why you believe the way you do and convince me I’m wrong. It is not being negative it’s having a discussion.

Look forward to an adult discussion instead of the usual replies full of childish emojis.

You have an opinion, I have an opinion, I don't need to try and convince you that you're wrong as you're entitled to that opinion. 

I believe the way I do as I believe that the club has no choice now but to accept that things need to change and that now we're at rock bottom those changes will be implemented, yes this could of been implemented in the past but it hasn't and it's time to move on, I agree the BoD have got things wrong and they aren't everyone's cup of tea, however right at this moment in time I'm just glad Whitehaven RLFC is still around and hopefully looking at a brighter future, that is my opinion.

 

[TerryM]

In my view if Elibeck is at the club it will die.  To many loyal supporters, players can't stand him and without them the club won't exist.  He isn't fit to be involved and should put his ego aside and leave.

[Churchill Drivers]

I don’t know Gary personally but when I have spoken to him in The Sponsors Lounge it is clear that his heart is in the club. Not sure what went on with Des but it’s crucial that he continues his great work with the Vice Presidents. I was pleased to see that when young Kellet played last Sunday there were a good few Hensingham lads there supporting. If the rebuild means more local players then we should all support the club on getting back on its feet - they will have my continual support.