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Steve Slater

Member Since 22 Apr 2005
Offline Last Active Mar 28 2015 10:08 PM

#3096409 Dewsbury v Rovers match thread.

Posted by Steve Slater on 28 March 2015 - 10:09 AM

Really good result but the only thing that concerns me is that we have conceded well over 20 points again. I think we need to tighten our defence if we want to be successful this season.

10-2 penalty count against them before the ref must have realised and decided to give Fev one or two, then I think he gave them 4 in succession from which they opened up a match winning gap before he had another brain furt and reverted back to previous inefficiency, from which they scored their 2nd half try. Half the penalties awarded to either side were totally unnecessary. It's about time we had differential tap where you couldn't kick to touch for minor offences to stop side being piggy-backed upfield when they don't really deserve it.

#3090254 Leigh sunday

Posted by Steve Slater on 17 March 2015 - 11:19 AM


Refs don't win or lose matches. Players do that.

Refs don't win or lose matches. Players do that.
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Don't they indeed?. Refs have more influence regarding results than the players have.



There was a 5-1 penalty count against Featherstone in the second half until Fev got a few back at the very end. This was probably because Leigh were getting on top and forcing offences against them, but some refs let them go and some don't. I also noticed a couple of repeat sets from kicks that collided with a Fev player within a couple of feet and it can be argued they didn't play the ball. Maybe similar things went against Leigh but the fans who gain from it don't notice them as much. It was the repeat sets that killed Fev off in the second half and never let them get back in the game after the early try from the kick, and you can't say that every ref would have called every offence the same.

#3086274 Leigh sunday

Posted by Steve Slater on 10 March 2015 - 09:16 AM

I know that Leigh dominated the All-Stars 13 last season, but to suggest that some of those were better than ours was rubbish. What they are, is a TEAM, they play like a team, and back up like a team, and they have an outstanding pair of half-backs. I thought it was phenomenal the way they broke from their own half with support on either side in numbers, yet when we break there is hardly anyone up in support to pass to. I don't know how we can stop their support play other than using football tactics as soon as the break starts, maybe by running across their support runners to delay them?

We did have our moments against them though and showed signs of dominating them in the forwards, like the cup game at their place before Dale & Bostock got injured, and when we came back at them at Headingley.

The pack have been very good so far, and Bozzy, who missed most of last season, is every bit as good as Barlow. So if Fev can keep it tight, and try to make it a forward battle we have a good chance, if we try to match them in the backs we can forget it.

#3081541 Today V Bulls

Posted by Steve Slater on 02 March 2015 - 12:19 PM

Gaskell's display was one of the finest I've seen in years, he was Ridyard and Brierley combined. After his first try our defence was watching him too much and gave them space out wide, especially for their 2nd & 3rd tries. Their opening try of the 2nd half inside barely a minute was a real killer, and Glaskell's 60 yard effort was out of this world.
We matched them up front though, but the second rowers and centres have no penetration out wide, so the passing needs to be smarter and more fluid.
Forget it and move on, it would have been a far more even contest without Gaskell, and we won't be facing him next week.

#3077630 fev youngsters

Posted by Steve Slater on 23 February 2015 - 07:28 PM

The intensity of the competition is not conducive for bringing on youngsters, every game this year is a must win and the bar has been raised regarding quality. Also there's no easy NRC fixtures that gave Zac his chance. Last years injury crisis worked out well for Pick and Teasdale, but we're not likely to be so unlucky with injuries again. I'm sure Teasdale will get his chance, but with the front row performing well and two more props still to come in how will Nicholson, Cooper and Ormondroyd get a game? What Rovers need is a DR arrangement with a Championship 1 club, other than that one or two will need to go out on loan.

#3074962 Minimum Ground Standards To Enter Super League

Posted by Steve Slater on 19 February 2015 - 09:02 PM

Wakefield got into Super League in 1998 on the promise that they would upgrade thier ground to a decent standard.
We are still waiting.

And they got into Super League in 1998 by spending the money they should have used to upgrade their facilities, to meet the minimum SL standards of the day, on their playing budget instead. If they wanted to do this and just win the GF without applying for promotion to SL that was up to them, but to blatantly ignore Stadium minimum standards in order to pay for the strongest squad and then apply for SL was surely equivalent to a breach of Salary Cap? Other clubs they were competing with were playing by the rules and upgrading their stadium.

#3074907 Fev 28 Huns 14

Posted by Steve Slater on 19 February 2015 - 07:42 PM

If I'm honest I personally don't think your a top 4 team this season top 6 is more realistic

I don't know where you got that from in view of the fact that Fev still finished 2nd last year despite what was probably the biggest injury crisis in the history of the club? They appear to have recruited well and 4 players that could well be top class in this division are still to come in, to go with half a dozen still bedding in. They will nicely compliment the bulk of last year's squad. Every position seems adequately covered, while I don't know whether some other clubs will struggle should they lose one or two stars.

I think the table will be won by the best team though and not the best assembly of stars. Leigh will get a flying start out of the blocks because they play well together and their support play is phenomenal, with outstanding half backs (unless of course they get injured).

#3072116 What's your top six 2015

Posted by Steve Slater on 14 February 2015 - 09:00 PM

The key thing for us will be keeping relatively injury free. If we have a nightmare like last season we will struggle for top 4 if we stay fit we will be able to rotate the squad a little and I reckon we can pinch 3rd.

I think Dewsbury showed last night it will be a very tough league again this year.

If we don't get any injuries it will be difficult to hold on to everyone. The 19 man squad looks good for the Hunslet game, and that's without Minns, Ormondroyd, Cooper, Nicholson and Walmsley. But expected first teamers Carvell, Verlinden and Maitua will hopefuly feature in the near future, and Mendeika not long after that. Competition for places will be tight, and some might have to go out on loan. 

I think Rovers might find it tough early on, but once the new faces gel and everyone is available they will climb into the top 4 by the end.

#3067845 Past player

Posted by Steve Slater on 06 February 2015 - 11:09 PM

I can remember him signing from Otley, he was a small well-mannered and well-spoken guy with short dark hair and a close-cropped beard if I recall correctly. I can remember him being in competition with Dave Kellett for the no.6 berth, but can't remember if Mick Smith was injured at the time or whether he'd moved to centre by then. Both Chris and Dave Kellett packed in around the same time, Dave with a bad injury, but can't remember what happened to your Dad. Mel Mason then forced his way in to the first team and the rest is history.

#3065681 Learn from the three mistakes

Posted by Steve Slater on 03 February 2015 - 04:11 PM

Don't get me wrong we all make mistakes but some are bigger than others.Our club has made three howlers this season which need to never happen again Number 1 the re turfing of the pitch.Obviously this needed to be done earlier and I know that Fev could have played their home games at certain clubs to re turf early but didn't.for what ever reasons it wasn't re turfed early enough which has resulted in massive finance losses from revenue lost to all the lost home friendlies.Number 2 Knowing the situation about the length of time it takes to get visas for overseas players why do we sign the Aussies too late which causes longer time for the Aussies to gel into the workings of the new team.Number 3 why organise a New Years eve party in the club house and advertise it the day before when everyone except the homeless have obviously made their arrangements.this obviously results in loss revenue due to one man a tramp and his dog turning up.ive just recently watched a film called Dumb and Dumber surely if we contacted them they couldn't do a worse job.

Back to the original starter post: True, everyone is entitled to their opinion but the comparison to Dumb and Dumber was way off the mark. Apart from the embarrassing period when Rovers' financial backer thought he could turn them into a "moneybags club" the BOD, volunteers and non-playing staff have far exceeded the coaches and players in terms of achievement over the past 5 years. They contributed the hard work and finances (pre and post Feisal) to assemble superb facilities, and the best squad in the division by a "country mile". It's not their fault that the best, most expensive squad only managed to win one knock-out trophy in the 4 years they ran away with the league. Whether they made any mistakes over the pitch is debatable, but if so they were only minor compared to the bigger picture, and doesn't their previous record allow them to do so without criticism? 

#3047248 Super eight or relegate?

Posted by Steve Slater on 19 December 2014 - 09:28 PM

for Godsake.
It's not the fans of the game holding the game back, it's the lack of them. Can't you see that? The fans we have spend what they have. What we need are new ones.
If your depressed about it, go see someone. It will only get worse convincing the happy ones among us that the end is nigh.

But you won't get any new fans unless London, or any future expansion clubs, can be successful. The only way that could happen would be if they got twice the Sky money and twice the salary cap of Leeds, Wigan, Saints, Wire etc. Would these giants of the game be willing to take a cut in order to let these new clubs have more and take away their continual success?

#3045814 RL Hard Men

Posted by Steve Slater on 16 December 2014 - 09:18 AM

Woods wasn't hard, he was a psycho. He was sorted out by a gentle giant who was only hard when he needed to be ... Ian van Bellen.

There lies the difference.......Many of the above were not hard men, but extremely tough guys who played the sport fairly and wouldn't deliberately injure an opponent unless provoked, and could take everything thrown at them including the kitchen sink. Hard men were those that had a bit of malice in them and could strike fear into an opponent, such as Tony Fisher, who tamed the Aussies when brought back by Peter Fox in the late 70's. 

#3044635 RL Hard Men

Posted by Steve Slater on 13 December 2014 - 05:56 PM

Tony Fisher

Chris Burton

#3042673 Licencing

Posted by Steve Slater on 08 December 2014 - 10:14 PM

1995 still rankles with me and I don't think that I will ever get over it. The game died for me then and it took me a long time to get over that point in time, and if I'm brutally honest even though I've come back to Rovers and even watch SL rugby now on Sky, something died forever in me them. I will be accused of being parochial and yes, I probably am but I have to be honest. We had a team then, that given time to gel would have been premiership class. I'm swearing here but I think Castleford did also, they'd humiliated Wigan the season before in a final. Great Britain took Australia all the way. Wigan were all conquering Challenge Cup winners for the 8th year, I hate to see this type of domination but I think theirs was almost over. We went to summer rugby and in doing so played directly into Rugby Union's hands. I'll get pelters here but RU has gone from strength to strength since Sky but I don't know if us league boys hane.

Don't get me wrong some good things have come out of the last 19 years. Players are fitter than ever now, and the kids up North love the game, RL is played more than ever now in Northern Schools both boys and girls. My final line though is that in most ways we haven't really progressed in 19 years in terms of the professional and International game.

I personally think that it's an insult to all who suffered in the cause of expansionism that Paris, Crusaders, and now London all failed.  

#3037881 Championship: Featherstone land young Leeds quartet

Posted by Steve Slater on 26 November 2014 - 08:52 PM

It's sensible business for Fev, a much better option than spending another half million to go full-time. Assuming they are not likely to get promoted as most say on here they will be half a mill better off for 2016, and better equipped to challenge the clubs that go the whole hog and fail. If they did defy the odds and won promotion, that extra half mill would more than compensate for losing any of these lads that excelled and got recalled by the Rhinos.


I'm surprised that no-one's mentioned the warehousing, which promises to bring in massive extra income in future years that would go a long way in making up the shortfall through lower attendances!!!!!