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#21 oldrover

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Posted 01 March 2010 - 05:11 PM

QUOTE (Chris Taylor @ Mar 1 2010, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Isn't it Wood in 'charge' at the moment?


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#22 DMS

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Posted 01 March 2010 - 05:23 PM

QUOTE (Terry Mullaney @ Mar 1 2010, 04:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
According to the League Express the Toulouse club knew right from the outset that they wouldn't need to qualify for the GF in order to gain a SL licence while everyone else within the game was being deliberately deceived by the RFL. The professional game at our level is being systematically dismantled in order to create a feeder system to save SL clubs the expense of running reserve sides, dual registration being the start. If the Championship clubs don't discover some 'bottle' soon and stand up to these destructive influences, the game below SL is dead, no two ways about it.

It will be very interesting to see how the clubs react to this. I'm not holding my breath. Lambs to the slaughter once again, I fear.

The clubs will react the way they always have. Some will grumble a bit and some will think, while we still have a chance of SL we best say NOWT. Cast ya mind back to mergers, some of our own people wanted to merge at the time.
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Posted 01 March 2010 - 05:40 PM

QUOTE (DMS @ Mar 1 2010, 05:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The clubs will react the way they always have. Some will grumble a bit and some will think, while we still have a chance of SL we best say NOWT. Cast ya mind back to mergers, some of our own people wanted to merge at the time.

This is depressing news. We are being dismantled from within. Sound a bit like the state of our country. How about all writing to Boots n All that would make then sit up a bit our discontnent being broadcast far and wide.

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Posted 01 March 2010 - 05:44 PM

QUOTE (jamescolin @ Mar 1 2010, 07:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is depressing news. We are being dismantled from within. Sound a bit like the state of our country. How about all writing to Boots n All that would make then sit up a bit our discontnent being broadcast far and wide.


It'd go in the Anti-Lewis and Woods filing cabinet


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Posted 01 March 2010 - 06:11 PM

QUOTE (Matt J @ Mar 1 2010, 05:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It'd go in the Anti-Lewis and Woods filing cabinet

We will see. I have sent a e.mail the Eddie Heemings today at boots'n'all@skysports.com expressing the views already outlined in this thread. If they get enough e.mails they have to respond. If not then we condemn them in the RL Express/ Yorkshire Post/ etc. Unless we show our disgust outside our forum then nothing will be done. At the very least we will make them very uncomfortable. The need for an ordinary supporters voice is outstanding.

#26 Michael Bates

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Posted 01 March 2010 - 06:48 PM

QUOTE (Martyn Sadler @ Mar 1 2010, 07:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The RFL has now issued a press release stating that Toulouse do indeed have to reach the 2010 Grand Final to apply for a 2012 Super League licence.
An RFL official told our correspondent Mike Rylance that they didn't have to, but it seems that the RFL got it wrong.


Hmm?

#27 jamescolin

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Posted 01 March 2010 - 06:51 PM

QUOTE (Michael Bates @ Mar 1 2010, 06:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm?

Has the sh/t hit the fan already. I only sent my e.mail half an hour ago.

#28 Ralph Bullock

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Posted 01 March 2010 - 06:54 PM

Statement just released by RFL
Toulouse Olympique and Super League licensing
The RFL has confirmed that Toulouse Olympique do need to appear in the 2010 Co-operative Championship Grand Final to earn the right to apply for a Super League licence from the 2012 season onwards.
Contrary to some reports, the mechanism by which Toulouse can apply for a Super League licence remains unchanged from the position in 2008, when the last round of licensing was completed.
Should they reach the Grand Final, Toulouse Olympique will also have to address factors that are not relevant to UK-based Championship clubs, including how a second French club can add to Super League.



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Posted 01 March 2010 - 06:55 PM

recently iv defended the franchise system as it has seen us grow as a club...but now im looking at an rfl which is taking th MICK! youd think they would learn their lessons learnt from Celtic....no lets just brush that under the rug and have another go........ there must be a way of getting lewis and woods out
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Posted 01 March 2010 - 06:57 PM

Martyn Sadler (RL Express Journo) has posted on the rlfans.com forum ....

"The RFL has now issued a press release stating that Toulouse do indeed have to reach the 2010 Grand Final to apply for a 2012 Super League licence. An RFL official told our correspondent Mike Rylance that they didn't have to, but it seems that the RFL got it wrong."

Presuming he's not a doppleganger, it may well be business as usual.

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Posted 01 March 2010 - 07:04 PM

QUOTE (Terry Mullaney @ Mar 1 2010, 04:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
According to the League Express the Toulouse club knew right from the outset that they wouldn't need to qualify for the GF in order to gain a SL licence while everyone else within the game was being deliberately deceived by the RFL. The professional game at our level is being systematically dismantled in order to create a feeder system to save SL clubs the expense of running reserve sides, dual registration being the start. If the Championship clubs don't discover some 'bottle' soon and stand up to these destructive influences, the game below SL is dead, no two ways about it.

It will be very interesting to see how the clubs react to this. I'm not holding my breath. Lambs to the slaughter once again, I fear.


'Toulouse do have to qualify for a grand final and in fact the conditions regding a place in Super League for them are more stringent and wider ranging than for UK clubs. This story has come about through a misunderstanding-an error in translation' This is verbatim what John Ledger the RFL media officer told me this afternoon.
The RFL have apologised to League Express for the misunderstanding according to managing editor martyn sadler elsewhere on this website-the TRL forum.
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#32 Catflapper

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Posted 01 March 2010 - 07:10 PM

I'm sure that the paper were quite careful before publishing such an incendiary story. My guess is that it may have been an 'off the record' comment that has been allowed to slip through.
The rebuttal by the RFL comes as no surprise whatsoever.
As a start I'm going to have Sky Sports turned off.
As a finish, if this whole sorry fiasco turns out to be true, then I'm finished with RL for good.

#33 Terry Mullaney

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Posted 01 March 2010 - 07:13 PM

Maybe dope testing ought to be extended to include RLHQ officials.
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#34 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 01 March 2010 - 07:17 PM

QUOTE (Terry Mullaney @ Mar 1 2010, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe dope testing ought to be extended to include RLHQ officials.


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#35 jamescolin

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Posted 01 March 2010 - 07:23 PM

QUOTE (Catflapper @ Mar 1 2010, 07:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm sure that the paper were quite careful before publishing such an incendiary story. My guess is that it may have been an 'off the record' comment that has been allowed to slip through.
The rebuttal by the RFL comes as no surprise whatsoever.
As a start I'm going to have Sky Sports turned off.
As a finish, if this whole sorry fiasco turns out to be true, then I'm finished with RL for good.

I just wonder if there has been a big uproar and that this is just a feeble backtracking excuse? From what I have heard and seen of French officials they have good English and therefore why is a translation necessary? If the status quo was the operating theme as now stated why make a statement at all initially? One was not necessary.

#36 Stratobill

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Posted 01 March 2010 - 07:48 PM

How the hell can we believe a word they say. Has everyone forgotten the constant lies they sprouted regarding Celtic NOT being guaranteed a franchise. Have we also forgotten all the bias referee decisions which allowed them to get promoted from division 2 and yet again the bias to allow them to win a Grand Final place the year after. Its a total joke and will continue whilst the present idiots are in charge. We have little chance of overturning any vote now super league clubs have 2 votes to our 1 .
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#37 DMS

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Posted 01 March 2010 - 07:52 PM

An "error in translation" my ar$e. The remark was from a RL official to a reporter from League Express. And why did the Toulouse Chairman say they had known they were exempt from getting to a grand final from the start.
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Posted 01 March 2010 - 07:55 PM

QUOTE (l'angelo mysterioso @ Mar 1 2010, 07:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
never made a mistake?

It was a joke post Chris. Why don't you pull ya neck in.
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#39 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 01 March 2010 - 08:06 PM

QUOTE (DMS @ Mar 1 2010, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
An "error in translation" my ar$e. The remark was from a RL official to a reporter from League Express. And why did the Toulouse Chairman say they had known they were exempt from getting to a grand final from the start.

you know who I am I'm a Rovers fan the same as you.
I have also known John Ledger for many years. He is not a liar. In the past he has been very helpful to me, and therefore to Rovers.
Mr Ledger attends Rovers games. If you wish I can introduce him to you and you can say what you have just said to his face. I estend the same invitation to jamescollin who also seems to think Ledger is a liar.
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Posted 01 March 2010 - 08:31 PM

QUOTE (l'angelo mysterioso @ Mar 1 2010, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
you know who I am I'm a Rovers fan the same as you.
I have also known John Ledger for many years. He is not a liar. In the past he has been very helpful to me, and therefore to Rovers.
Mr Ledger attends Rovers games. If you wish I can introduce him to you and you can say what you have just said to his face. I estend the same invitation to jamescollin who also seems to think Ledger is a liar.


Let me be clear, I do not seek to suggest anyone is telling lies. However the explanation you have relayed here doesn't seem to me to provide a full answer. In saying that I appreciate the you personally are simply passing on what you have been told.

I can happily accept that the comments of the Toulouse Chairman have been 'lost in translation', it wouldn't be the first or last time something of that nature had occurred. The only way I can make sense of this is to assume that LE got their story initially from the Toulouse Chairman's comments(which were misunderstood) and then put this to the RFL for clarification and were told it was correct. That they were told it was correct by the RFL can not, by any reasonable consideration of the circumstances, be attributed to 'translation'.

Things would be far clearer if Mr Ledger or the RFL chose to explain how or why they failed to understand their own rules. They are, naturally, free to explain as much, or as little, as they choose but blaming translation when that clearly cannot address their own role in this does them no favours and only invites cynicism, imho, of course.







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