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#1 ParisSurtout

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 01:01 AM

Both the current successful coach of Huddersfield Giants, Nathan Brown, and the current successful coach of St Helens, Mick Potter, are being considered for the position of assistant coach to Brian Smith at the Sydney Roosters.

What a come down!

Brown may also go back to being assistant coach to Wayne Bennett at St George Dragons, a club where he was once the head coach!

What a humiliation!

http://www.smh.com.a...00703-zuve.html

Either would be taking a job that involves a massive pay cut, and a massive loss of social status.

Can life in northern England, as head coach of a Super League club, be so dire? Is it just the English weather?

You never hear of coaches at Les Catalans Dragons complaining about life in the south of France. It is rather a falling out with the Chairman of the club, or in the case of Kevin Walters, a failure to perform, that causes coaches to leave Perpignan. All the Aussies speak highly of the southern France life style. In the case of London Broncos, Tony Rea left London because Ian Lenagan wanted a fresh face in the coaching job. Rea himself would have been happy to stay. London is alluring for travelling Australians. The young ones seem to shack up there for years.

However in the northern England clubs it is usually the Aussie coach wanting to leave after two or three seasons, not the club wanting to unload him. The notable exceptions to the Aussie "here for the short term" rule are the still very young Justin Morgan, the uncouth Ian Millward, and the "failed already in the NRL" Shaun McRae. Tony Smith would appear to like the north of England, and he has even become a British citizen. But he just can't seem to hack any particular northern town or city. Note how he has gone from Huddersfield, to Leeds, to Warrington. He can't find roots in one place!

Wigan cannot count on the talented Mr McGuire being there beyond November 2012. With Perth and perhaps Central Coast due to enter the NRL in 2013, McGuire will be in demand and will likely take a plum job in the NRL.
The same applies to Hull KR. If the talented and ambitious Justin Morgan has not been awarded the top job at either St Helens or Wigan for the 2013 season, he will probably head down under as well.

Perhaps there should be more SL coaching positions available in London and the south of France, in order for the best Australian coaches to come and stay long term, and impart their wisdom to northern hemisphere rugby league.

Edited by ParisSurtout, 04 July 2010 - 02:21 AM.

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#2 Johnoco

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 01:32 AM

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 01:38 AM

QUOTE (ParisSurtout @ Jul 4 2010, 02:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Both the current successful coach of Huddersfield Giants, Nathan Brown, and the current successful coach of St Helens, Mick Potter, are being considered for the position of assistant coach to Brian Smith at the Sydney Roosters.

What a come down!

Brown may also go back to being assistant coach to Wayne Bennett at St George Dragons, a club where he was once the head coach!

What a humiliation!

http://www.smh.com.a...00703-zuve.html

Either would be taking a job that involves a massive pay cut, and a massive loss of social status.

Can life in northern England, as head coach of a Super League club, be so dire? Is it just the English weather?

You never hear of coaches at Les Catalans Dragons complaining about life in the south of France. It is rather a falling out with the Chairman of the club, or in the case of Kevin Walters, a failure to perform, that causes coaches to leave Perpignan.

Perhaps there should be more positions available in London and the south of France, in order for the best Australian coaches to come and stay long term, and impart their wisdom to northern hemisphere rugby league. A second London club and a second French club in Toulouse would surely appeal more to the cosmopolitan Aussies.

Let us be honest about this: it seems that life in the northern England towns just doesn't appeal to talented and successful Australians as a life choice on a long term basis.

Shut up you tart.

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#4 ParisSurtout

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 01:56 AM

QUOTE (hindle xiii @ Jul 3 2010, 09:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Shut up you tart.


That was an interesting, thought provoking response.

Edited by ParisSurtout, 04 July 2010 - 01:58 AM.

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#5 Hannibal

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 05:26 AM

QUOTE (ParisSurtout @ Jul 4 2010, 02:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That was an interesting, thought provoking response.

To encourage thoughtful responses, you need to ask thought provoking questions.

Your stance on Northern England is bordering on ECT's definition of racism.

oh and, you're boring.

Please go away.

Thanks.

#6 1976PMJwires

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 07:28 AM

QUOTE (ParisSurtout @ Jul 4 2010, 02:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Both the current successful coach of Huddersfield Giants, Nathan Brown, and the current successful coach of St Helens, Mick Potter, are being considered for the position of assistant coach to Brian Smith at the Sydney Roosters.

What a come down!

Brown may also go back to being assistant coach to Wayne Bennett at St George Dragons, a club where he was once the head coach!

What a humiliation!

http://www.smh.com.a...00703-zuve.html

Either would be taking a job that involves a massive pay cut, and a massive loss of social status.

Can life in northern England, as head coach of a Super League club, be so dire? Is it just the English weather?

You never hear of coaches at Les Catalans Dragons complaining about life in the south of France. It is rather a falling out with the Chairman of the club, or in the case of Kevin Walters, a failure to perform, that causes coaches to leave Perpignan. All the Aussies speak highly of the southern France life style. In the case of London Broncos, Tony Rea left London because Ian Lenagan wanted a fresh face in the coaching job. Rea himself would have been happy to stay. London is alluring for travelling Australians. The young ones seem to shack up there for years.

However in the northern England clubs it is usually the Aussie coach wanting to leave after two or three seasons, not the club wanting to unload him. The notable exceptions to the Aussie "here for the short term" rule are the still very young Justin Morgan, the uncouth Ian Millward, and the "failed already in the NRL" Shaun McRae.
Tony Smith would appear to like the north of England, and he has even become a British citizen. But he just can't seem to hack any particular northern town or city. Note how he has gone from Huddersfield, to Leeds, to Warrington. He can't find roots in one place!

Wigan cannot count on the talented Mr McGuire being there beyond November 2012. With Perth and perhaps Central Coast due to enter the NRL in 2013, McGuire will be in demand and will likely take a plum job in the NRL.
The same applies to Hull KR. If the talented and ambitious Justin Morgan has not been awarded the top job at either St Helens or Wigan for the 2013 season, he will probably head down under as well.

Perhaps there should be more SL coaching positions available in London and the south of France, in order for the best Australian coaches to come and stay long term, and impart their wisdom to northern hemisphere rugby league.




Your an annoying TROLL..........

Tony Smith still lives in Huddersfield, is more than happy there, so i guess his roots are firmly rooted.
He travels over every morning arriving at the Warrington training ground for 7am.


Going from Hudd to Leeds, would that not be promotion
Leeds to England, 100% promotion
England to Wires, Money as the motive, but In TS words " missed the day to day activities with the players" he needed club RL




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Posted 04 July 2010 - 08:19 AM

I can't see Morgan getting either the Saints or Wigan jobs anytime soon. See how Hull KR have stalled this season as he searches for even more ways to bring in Australians on an EU passport.

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 09:06 AM

This makes no sense.

Aussie coach leaves north of England club - it's due to the weather/culture.
Aussie coach leaves south of France club - it's due to something else.
Aussie coach moves to another northern England club - can't find his routes.

Reasoning behind logic - OP is a pompous git high on his pedestal who talks with an undeserved sense of achievement but is in fact (as shown by this thread) an idiot.

Many Aussies return to Australia (both players AND coaches, from both Britain AND France) because of family reasons. Maybe these Aussies don't like the French culture either?
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Posted 04 July 2010 - 10:11 AM

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 10:14 AM

QUOTE (ParisSurtout @ Jul 4 2010, 02:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Both the current successful coach of Huddersfield Giants, Nathan Brown, and the current successful coach of St Helens, Mick Potter, are being considered for the position of assistant coach to Brian Smith at the Sydney Roosters.

What a come down!

Brown may also go back to being assistant coach to Wayne Bennett at St George Dragons, a club where he was once the head coach!

What a humiliation!

http://www.smh.com.a...00703-zuve.html

Either would be taking a job that involves a massive pay cut, and a massive loss of social status.

Can life in northern England, as head coach of a Super League club, be so dire? Is it just the English weather?

You never hear of coaches at Les Catalans Dragons complaining about life in the south of France. It is rather a falling out with the Chairman of the club, or in the case of Kevin Walters, a failure to perform, that causes coaches to leave Perpignan. All the Aussies speak highly of the southern France life style. In the case of London Broncos, Tony Rea left London because Ian Lenagan wanted a fresh face in the coaching job. Rea himself would have been happy to stay. London is alluring for travelling Australians. The young ones seem to shack up there for years.

However in the northern England clubs it is usually the Aussie coach wanting to leave after two or three seasons, not the club wanting to unload him. The notable exceptions to the Aussie "here for the short term" rule are the still very young Justin Morgan, the uncouth Ian Millward, and the "failed already in the NRL" Shaun McRae. Tony Smith would appear to like the north of England, and he has even become a British citizen. But he just can't seem to hack any particular northern town or city. Note how he has gone from Huddersfield, to Leeds, to Warrington. He can't find roots in one place!

Wigan cannot count on the talented Mr McGuire being there beyond November 2012. With Perth and perhaps Central Coast due to enter the NRL in 2013, McGuire will be in demand and will likely take a plum job in the NRL.
The same applies to Hull KR. If the talented and ambitious Justin Morgan has not been awarded the top job at either St Helens or Wigan for the 2013 season, he will probably head down under as well.

Perhaps there should be more SL coaching positions available in London and the south of France, in order for the best Australian coaches to come and stay long term, and impart their wisdom to northern hemisphere rugby league.


You couldn't be more wrong on Justin Morgan.

The very fact that he, and his family, are so settled in Hull is the reason why he has refused to countenance interest from St Helens, Leeds, Warrington in the past. A return to Australia is not on the agenda either!

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 11:43 AM

QUOTE (HullRover @ Jul 4 2010, 11:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You couldn't be more wrong on Justin Morgan.

The very fact that he, and his family, are so settled in Hull is the reason why he has refused to countenance interest from St Helens, Leeds, Warrington in the past. A return to Australia is not on the agenda either!



so that's Justin and Tony Smith

the guy is a total 1 eye t1t

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 01:41 PM


And Brian McClennan has just signed an extension to his contract which makes northern England more attractive than NZ.

I think we are beginning to establish a hierarchy here. Plonker!

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 02:42 PM

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 02:57 PM

QUOTE (John Rhino @ Jul 4 2010, 09:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And Brian McClennan has just signed an extension to his contract which makes northern England more attractive than NZ.

I think we are beginning to establish a hierarchy here. Plonker!


We were talking about Aussies, not Kiwis.

Kiwis can hack northern England because the weather is similar (cold and damp, unlike Australia, and unlike the south of France for 9 months of the year), and because New Zealand is a pretty but boring country --- a bit like Scotland but without the history and charm of Edinburgh. For the average Kiwi ruffian northern England must seem very interesting indeed --- especially when you have the bright lights of Manchester and Liverpool so near, and so many drunken girls stumbling about on the streets, looking for a ride home, on a Friday or Saturday night.

As I have intimated, Aussies find London and the south of France interesting places to go to and spend some quality time. That is why we would do well to give them more rugby league job opportunities in those places.

Edited by ParisSurtout, 04 July 2010 - 03:21 PM.

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 03:23 PM

QUOTE (ParisSurtout @ Jul 4 2010, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We were talking about Aussies, not Kiwis.

Kiwis can hack northern England because the weather is similar (cold and damp, unlike Australia, and unlike the south of France for 9 months of the year), and because New Zealand is a pretty but boring country --- a bit like Scotland but without the history and charm of Edinburgh. For the average Kiwi ruffian northern England must seem very interesting indeed --- especially when you have the bright lights of Manchester and Liverpool so near, and so many drunken girls stumbling about on the streets, looking for a ride home, on a Friday or Saturday night.

As I have intimated, Aussies find London and the south of France interesting places to go to and spend some quality time. That is why we would do well to give them more rugby league job opportunities in those places.



Justin Morgan and Tony Smith......... Answer this one you one eyed t1t!!!!

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 03:28 PM

QUOTE (1976PMJwires @ Jul 4 2010, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Justin Morgan and Tony Smith......... Answer this one you one eyed t1t!!!!



Ian Milward, Dave Woods the Webster at Hull..

#17 ParisSurtout

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 03:32 PM

QUOTE (1976PMJwires @ Jul 4 2010, 11:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Justin Morgan and Tony Smith......... Answer this one you one eyed t1t!!!!



I aleady did did. Read my original post you silly fellow.

Have you never, ever heard of an "exception to the rule?"
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Posted 04 July 2010 - 03:37 PM

QUOTE (a.n Other @ Jul 4 2010, 11:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ian Milward, Dave Woods the Webster at Hull..


All of these are second rate coaches, not top coaches. The Wollongong boy Ian Millward suffers from his uncouth character, which is too rough for the newly cosmopolitan Australian club bosses -- the likes of Russell Crowe, Nick Polites, Todd Greenberg, Michael Searle etc. But Ian fits in well at an "off the beaten track" place like Leigh.

Edited by ParisSurtout, 04 July 2010 - 03:41 PM.

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 03:37 PM

QUOTE (ParisSurtout @ Jul 4 2010, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I aleady did did. Read my original post you silly fellow.

Have you never, ever heard of an "exception to the rule?"



he is settled.

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 03:42 PM

QUOTE (ParisSurtout @ Jul 4 2010, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All of these are second rate coaches, not top coaches. The Wollongong boy Ian Millward suffers from his uncouth character, which is too rough for the newly cosmopolitan Australian club bosses -- the likes of Russell Crowe, Nick Polites, Todd Greenberg etc. But Ian fits in well at an "off the beaten track" place like Leigh.



Is that the same Kiwi Russel Crowe that assaulted a hotel employee with a phone?

Edited by a.n Other, 04 July 2010 - 03:48 PM.





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