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#1 Wendall

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 09:00 AM

VERY sad news from London, where The Times have decided to get rid of the post of fulltime rugby league writer.

The current Times league roundsman, Chris Irvine, sent me an emotional message the other night, pointing to News Limited's alleged commitment to rugby league as something of a contradiction.

Chris will finish up after the Four Nations and in future, The Times will probably use agency copy and sent colour or general reporters to the big events like Wembley and Test matches.

And so, another nail in the coffin of league's national profile in the UK. When Sam Burgess said recently "who knows what will happen to league in England?", this is the sort of thing he was talking about.

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Bad news for Chris and I wish him well. Enjoyed reading his blogs and stuff.

But another blow for RL in that we dont have a RL writer at a national newspaper.



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Posted 11 August 2010 - 09:15 AM

QUOTE (Wendall @ Aug 11 2010, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But another blow for RL in that we dont have a RL writer at a national newspaper.

Andy Wilson at The Guardian

Occasionally dabbles in cricket, but billed as "the Guardian's rugby league correspondent"


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Posted 11 August 2010 - 09:23 AM

QUOTE (Wendall @ Aug 11 2010, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But another blow for RL in that we dont have a RL writer at a national newspaper.


Dave Hadfield at The Independent.

Is Julie Stott still at The Sun?

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#4 Wendall

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 09:25 AM

I should have said a RL writer at the Times.

Another one bites the dust!!! biggrin.gif



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Posted 11 August 2010 - 09:41 AM

To be honest though, I've not read anything of his since The Times went behind a paywall

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 11:28 AM

This isn't good, and it continues our ghettoisation, especially because the "colour" writers will of course be vichies and spout their g n t patronising nonsense (while in the same breath praising fringe Wigan player Ashton to the heavens).

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 11:33 AM

He can thank his sports editor's refusal to bring S Jones to book for his anti RL diatribe that turned plenty of people off the Times.

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 11:35 AM

QUOTE (brooza @ Aug 11 2010, 10:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Andy Wilson at The Guardian

Occasionally dabbles in cricket, but billed as "the Guardian's rugby league correspondent"


http://www.guardian....file/andywilson



Not sure he's a staff man rather than someone who supplies copy on basically a freelance basis. Thought he ran/worked for an agency which also employs Gareth Walker - another prominent Guardian byline.

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 12:00 PM

QUOTE (Exiled Wiganer @ Aug 11 2010, 12:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This isn't good, and it continues our ghettoisation, especially because the "colour" writers will of course be vichies and spout their g n t patronising nonsense (while in the same breath praising fringe Wigan player Ashton to the heavens).

"Ghettoisation"??
"Vichies"??

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 12:01 PM

We should turn this on its head?

Isn't the fact that the Times online is now behind a paywall causing this cut?

By all accounts - none confirmed from News Corp - the users of timesonline have plummeted since the paywall was introduced and revenues are not nearly anywhere near where they want them to be.

Trouble at 'mill.

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 12:13 PM

Hardly surprising, The Times has no interest in covering rugby league although who will be their "northern rugby correspondent" when the union season is back on?

Stephen Jones has been crowing quite a bit in the last couple of years about the decline of rugby coverage in the Times so no doubt he will be thrilled as he will get to lie about the game now with no chance of a comeback - not that there was ever much of one anyway - the traffic was all one way - remember when Chris mentioned the Vichy scandal and Jones filled his column with a series of lies to sooth his readers? Fortunately with the Times now behind a paywall Jones and his legion of Times union writers are an irrelevance.

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 04:20 PM

QUOTE (TheMancunianCandidate @ Aug 11 2010, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We should turn this on its head?

Isn't the fact that the Times online is now behind a paywall causing this cut?

By all accounts - none confirmed from News Corp - the users of timesonline have plummeted since the paywall was introduced and revenues are not nearly anywhere near where they want them to be.

Trouble at 'mill.


http://www.thehindub...81151921000.htm

With The Times now deciding to not cover rugby league other than to send ######s such as Jones along to the Challenge Cup final so he can lie about it and Sky marginalising the sport as much as it is able the old argument about increased coverage after a move to summer is looking rather ridiculous. I feel sorry for Christopher Irvine but he must have known that there is no future in being a RL journalist on a national newspaper.
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Posted 11 August 2010 - 04:27 PM

QUOTE (brooza @ Aug 11 2010, 10:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Andy Wilson at The Guardian

Occasionally dabbles in cricket, but billed as "the Guardian's rugby league correspondent"


http://www.guardian....file/andywilson


He "occasionally dabbles" in club rugby union, presumably at the invitation of his Sports Editor, leaving nobody at his newspaper to report on the seismic Australia v NZ 4 Nations clash at the Stoop last time around.

A curious turn of events for a "rugby league correspondent"

The paper's vast army of rugby union journalists must have been hors de combat.

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 04:42 PM

QUOTE (paley @ Aug 11 2010, 05:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
http://www.thehindub...81151921000.htm

With The Times now deciding to not cover rugby league other than to send ######s such as Jones along to the Challenge Cup final so he can lie about it and Sky marginalising the sport as much as it is able the old argument about increased coverage after a move to summer is looking rather ridiculous. I feel sorry for Christopher Irvine but he must have known that there is no future in being a RL journalist on a national newspaper.


I feel desperately sorry for Chris Irvine too. I enjoyed reading his blog which was witty, inventive and insightful - underpinned by an unapologetic passion for the game.

It was too, at least in the early days, successful in terms of popularity by comparison with many of the Times' more
established blogs on Establishment sports.

The Times' "Rugby (sic) Correspondent" David Hands and the Sunday Times' "Rugby (sic) Correspondent" Stephen Jones - the latter has in the past boasted repeatedly about rugby league's negligible coverage - must be inconsolable.

#15 Futtocks

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 04:45 PM

Shame. His RL blogs used to be good reading, especially the ones he posted during the last RWC.

But, like most on here, I'm not paying any money to the company who employs the plastic Welshman Jones.

Best of luck for the future, Chris!

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 05:33 PM

QUOTE (paley @ Aug 11 2010, 01:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hardly surprising, The Times has no interest in covering rugby league although who will be their "northern rugby correspondent" when the union season is back on?

Stephen Jones has been crowing quite a bit in the last couple of years about the decline of rugby coverage in the Times so no doubt he will be thrilled as he will get to lie about the game now with no chance of a comeback - not that there was ever much of one anyway - the traffic was all one way - remember when Chris mentioned the Vichy scandal and Jones filled his column with a series of lies to sooth his readers? Fortunately with the Times now behind a paywall Jones and his legion of Times union writers are an irrelevance.

surely with the times now behind a paywall jones lies will not reach the audience they was before.
still on the subject of jones has anyone ever tried to sue him or the times for the lies he constantly tells?

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 05:35 PM

QUOTE (TheMancunianCandidate @ Aug 11 2010, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We should turn this on its head?

Isn't the fact that the Times online is now behind a paywall causing this cut?

By all accounts - none confirmed from News Corp - the users of timesonline have plummeted since the paywall was introduced and revenues are not nearly anywhere near where they want them to be.

Trouble at 'mill.


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Posted 11 August 2010 - 05:37 PM

QUOTE (Mistress_Marlowe @ Aug 11 2010, 10:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dave Hadfield at The Independent.

Is Julie Stott still at The Sun?


Martin Richard at the Express.
Trevor Baxter at the Mirror.

#19 hindle xiii

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 05:42 PM

Isn't this media dying anyway?

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 06:04 PM

QUOTE (hindle xiii @ Aug 11 2010, 06:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Isn't this media dying anyway?


Possibly. is it any wonder when everyday you read the dross they print. most tabloids this week have been fillling their pages with the Peter Crouch story. i don't give a toss about Crouch and what he does, but the tabloids seem to think i and many others do.
back on topic i think all of us Rugby League fans should only buy newspapers with a Rugby League correspodent. not many options to choose from, but i think we should.




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