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#2981346 Middle east violence

Posted by GeordieSaint on Yesterday, 10:34 AM

This is the bit about this situation I find hard to understand. Are they STILL arming IS?


It is not as simple as that as we look at the issue through a western perspective. Saudi, Qatar, Kuwait, Iran et al look at these issues far far differently to us as this is all part of a much bigger game to them and that is the balance of power in the region. I've attached an article below which discusses this. Clearly this is one in hundreds discussing the topic but gives a rough overview (true reflection is open to debate of  course!).




However, is it State policy in Saudi, Qatar et al to fund and arm IS or Al-Nusra... no... do they turn a blind eye to funds being channeled... probably yes in some cases. Whilst through our eyes, IS are a fundamental threat to peace and security, to some people in the Middle East they are a necessary evil in the wider war taking place. We don't understand that in the West as we don't live there and in our view (rightly in my opinion) we think the long term consequences of such policies are counter-productive and to the point insane.


Our own policies haven't also helped the situation e.g. removal of Iraqi Army influence in post-Saddam era, failure to provide support to either side in Syrian conflict etc etc. However, whilst people suggest we should stay out of such matters fail to understand how inter-linked our society is to such trouble spots through the threat posed by fundamentalists back at home, the need for natural resources through to the globalised economy. I guess the point is there are no real long term solutions to these problems for anyone; it is a continuation of the ever changing world dynamic where economic prosperity of your nation is fundamentally the most important need and I don't see that ever changing in the future (clearly a pessimistic view!).

#2980181 5K run on a treadmill

Posted by GeordieSaint on 19 August 2014 - 08:29 PM

Firmly in rest mode for the next few days. Smashed out 30 miles over the last week with a 14-mile run around Ruilsip Woods and a 16-mile run around Downham Market completed in the last 6 days. The 16-miler was hard work having not fully recovered from the hills around Ruislip. Managed to complete in 2hr 27mins so a decent pace. I am sure adrenalin will push me round Kielder a bit quicker than that but looking in decent nick for marathon on 5 Oct...

#2978744 5K run on a treadmill

Posted by GeordieSaint on 17 August 2014 - 01:40 PM

But I was more bothered about hitting a weekly target than the actual weight-loss. I know if I eat right and work hard then it'll keep coming off so maybe I should just let that happen than worry whether or not it's a good number this week or not.

Eating right is fundamentally important when attempting to lose weight. When I have had to lose a bit, cutting out food with lots of added sugar has been key for me. Think you've done an awesome job so far so hope you can stay motivated to achieve your goal. All the best!  

Still been running but falling behind in honesty.
Couple of friends asking me to do either the Abbey Dash (Leeds) or the Bradford 10K, one in Oct, other in Nov...struggling to decide and/or be arsed. What to do?

Having a target to aim for e.g. a race etc is vital for my own personal motivation as I am inherently lazy. You'll know yourself but I'd sign up to a race in your shoes.

#2973230 Salford's Fans' Board (Merged threads)

Posted by GeordieSaint on 07 August 2014 - 07:52 PM

The board may as well be made up of the 7 dwarfs, 3 stooges and the chuckle brothers for all the good it will do - Does anyone really think an attention seeking egotistical man like Koucash is going to listen to 'ordinary' fans !

You are like a broken record when it comes to Koukash... Has he crashed into your car and not left any insurance details or something? Koukash for mine has been a breadth of fresh air for Salford and the game and it seems to me that he is slowly changing the fabric of that club... I am hoping it continues and Salford push on and really challenge the usual suspects and knock them off their perches...

#2973219 5K run on a treadmill

Posted by GeordieSaint on 07 August 2014 - 07:32 PM

Being the bloke I am means a couple of wobbly weeks has tempted me to scrap my plans and my target.

If you don't mind me asking, what was your target? Losing 4 stone is an awesome effort by the way.

#2972771 Expanded World Club Championship

Posted by GeordieSaint on 07 August 2014 - 07:58 AM

Clubs no doubt trying to line their pockets again... when are we ever going to learn that internationals are the way forward to develop the game rather than convulted rubbish like this? Clearly we haven't learned anything from 2013...

#2972625 Middle east violence

Posted by GeordieSaint on 06 August 2014 - 08:01 PM

The wider consequences of not dealing with Hamas rockets is that rockets will continue to be fired at Israeli civilians. Not something that I would allow if I were PM of Israel. Now I would prefer to limit casualties in ways that CKN described but not dealing with the rockets at all because some innocents will die seems silly. I can't think of any wars that didn't kill many children in fairly large numbers. Avoid fighting wars as much as you can but if you have to fight one then fight it.


I have never mentioned that Israel shouldn't deal with the Hamas rockets in order to protect Israeli civilians. I am just arguing through a little bit of experience and knowledge that Israeli actions over the last few weeks have been utterly disproportionate, barbaric and has far more damage to their cause and image than any action Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah et al could ever do. I think that'll do from my perspective in our conversation.

#2972575 Middle east violence

Posted by GeordieSaint on 06 August 2014 - 07:18 PM

Also I don't accept the charge of Hamas using human shields, it's just yet more Zionist propaganda.


You clearly can't see past your hatred of Israel coming out with a statement like that. Hamas are no different from any other fundamentalist group from Boko Haram to Jemaah Islamiyah; vile and barbaric organisations who have absolutely no regard for the lives of civilians and are quite willing to sacrifice the people they are supposedly trying to protect in order to achieve their goals. 

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#2971418 Middle east violence

Posted by GeordieSaint on 04 August 2014 - 07:21 PM

A genuine question: how do you know the the Israelis have indiscriminately attacked civilian areas?


That's not really the point with your first question. Under International Law, combatants are legally bound to help minimise civilian casualties and collateral damage. You don't target civilian areas with artillery, mortars etc as they are area weapons designed to kill anything in a certain radius of where the shell or bomb lands. Consequentely, they aren't the type of weapon you'd want to use in one of the most heavily populated areas of the world and the Israelis know this.

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#2971388 Middle east violence

Posted by GeordieSaint on 04 August 2014 - 06:19 PM

The religious and ideological "conflicts" are merely differences of opinion and strategy on controlling the resources within the region. 


I'd agree that controlling resources are a strategically important issue in the region. However water is the key resource in this particular conflict and is fundamentally one of the reasons why Israel haven't given up the Golan Heights and the West Bank like they did with the Gaza Strip. Give up those areas and the likes of Syria, Hezbollah and Hamas will cut off Israel's water supply as use that as a weapon...


The Jews quite rightly say that no-one else has wanted to protect them over the years so they're going to protect themselves,  Anyone who wants to challenge that will find a nation that will hit back disproportionately.  I can fully understand their mentality of "you hit us with one rocket and we'll return fire with a regiment's worth of artillery shells".


Where I draw the line though is their indiscriminate attacks on civilian areas that clearly have no terrorist involvement such as UN schools or hospitals.


Completely agree. I fully understand the Israeli mentality but fundamentally disagree with how they are dealing with the threat utilising indirect weapon systems in heavily civilianised areas... it is barbaric and plays directly into Hamas' hands in the fight for the 'information' war...

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#2970458 RLWC 2017 Qualification

Posted by GeordieSaint on 03 August 2014 - 04:57 PM

No, my point is simply if you are going to do something then do it with some conviction. Don't just pick a random number out of the air each cycle. I too would like to see it as the semi-finalists but, as with the previous post, I also fear qualifying campaigns being played out in West Sydney.

I agree with the conviction point. But when do the major nations ever do anything for long term benefit with International RL?

#2970361 RLWC 2017 Qualification

Posted by GeordieSaint on 03 August 2014 - 03:35 PM

However, I would have preferred that the RLIF had the confidence to say that from now on all WC Quarter-Finalists will receive automatic entry to future tournaments etc.

I'd prefer semi-finalists get automatic entry simply because I want to see nations such as Samoa or PNG playing far more internationals and qualifiers are a decent tool to do this.

#2969895 Middle east violence

Posted by GeordieSaint on 02 August 2014 - 03:04 PM

What exactly do you think is happening now?

What is happening now is horrific as is any death in conflict. However, if you remove the walls, barriers , borders etc between these two peoples, expect to see death on a scale not seen since the Rwanda genocide in the 90s.

#2969795 Middle east violence

Posted by GeordieSaint on 02 August 2014 - 11:06 AM

Hamas does not want reconciliation with Israelis.

That point you have made is the biggest stumbling block to peace between the Israelis and Palestinians. Until Hamas and the wider MENA states actually recognise that Israel exists, there will never be peace. They are the only ones who can break this awful vicious circle of violence.

#2969299 Anyone going down under for the 4N?

Posted by GeordieSaint on 01 August 2014 - 02:27 PM

Why was Sydney overlooked for Melbourne?

I am pretty sure there was a "Spin" on many of the crowd figures in last years World Cup. I watched many of the games and the stadiums that did not have massive capacities and looked 3/4 empty.
The average price for a decent ticket in Brisbane is $100.

No idea about Sydney/Melbourne... Maybe trying to reinforce development going on in Victoria or the Melbourne Council asked to host the game?!

You're barking up the wrong tree ref 'spin' last year and only the Ireland-Australia crowd was remotely 3/4 empty plus your semi when everyone was gutted, bored and freezing! I went to plenty of games in the tournament and I'd vouch that 'spin' wasn't required... Granted about cheap tickets as that certainly played a part in the appeal of the tournament but don't see any harm when you are trying to build an appetite for International RL as it clearly worked last year and still delivered a profit for the RLIF to invest.

Is $100 expensive in Australia and what does a decent ticket mean? I still stand by my opening statement that it is up to the NZRL and ARL push the concept properly as the bar was raised over here last year. The jury is out on the RFL if they actually learnt any lessons from it though...