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Rowan

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  1. As an oldie, far too many to remember but for sheer joy the 1992 Test in Melbourne when GB beat the Aussies33-10. Brilliant performance - 8,000 travelling GB fans in the rain-sodden crowd. Dave Hadfield's comment to the guy who played Jim Robinson in Neighbours summed it up: "This is more unbelievable than any of your Neighbours scripts." At home I would go for the 1985 Challenge Cup Final
  2. Like Martyn I am a member of the RLWBA (for more than 45 years) and when the suggestion was put to me I was also a bit reluctant to make the change purely on the grounds that it has a part in the sports history - just like the Lance Todd Trophy. I hear the argument that the name Harry Sunderland means nothing to the modern players or fans but few people in tennis know about Dwight F. Davis (founder of the Davis Cup) or in Golf (Sam Ryder of Ryder Cup) or the guy Stanley who gave ice hockey the Stanley Cup. It is therefore important that the Rob Burrow Award is a brand new Trophy and replica and the Harry Sunderland Cup is retired to the RFL's own trophy cabinet. Having said all that, if the change is to be made, Rob Burrow is a fine choice. I just hoe nobody comes along in a few years time and demands further change. After all, IMG have a 12-year contract and heaven knows what they have planned. At least the names Harry Sunderland and Lance Todd are reminders that the sport of Rugby League was played before 1996.
  3. Newcastle have switched the game to Featherstone which should guarantee a good turn out from Trinity fans so giving Thunder a cash boost.
  4. You've got to hand it to IMG - they have managed to create more than 160 pages of Rugby League discussion where the least important issue seems to to be what actually happens on the pitch.
  5. I have not read all of the previous 160 pages so this question may have been answered somewhere along the line: Will London Broncos be relegated from Super League no matter what they achieve on the pitch this coming season? i.e. because of the IMG Rating. Yes or No.
  6. Between 1982 and 1997 Tameside Borough were members of the Pennine League which in those days consisted of six-to-eight divisions of nearly 100 teams. Tameside, who played at Medlock Centre in Droylsden had several successful seasons including four promotions and a Riley Cup win. One player but in 1997 the club withdrew from the Pennine League and on the advice of Lionel Hurst became Manchester Knights and joined the new summer conference, playing first at Audenshaw, then at Oldham RU, then Dukinfield RU then Ashton on Mersey RU Five nomadic seasons) before falling into oblivion. As Superb Chops mentioned we started with a 96-0 win over Wolverhampton Wizards - a match that featured on Sky's good old Boots N All programme - and like the recent Manchester Rangers had ambitions of bigger things but sadly could not attract the sort of support or sponsorship needed. It was great while it lasted and thanks for remembering me SC , surname's Wilson and I still do a bit covering Barrow Raiders (my home town) for League Express.
  7. I hope the Barrow board are not thinking of spending cash on Christmas cards to the RFL after being informed that they open their season on January 28th (1895 Cup) and that their first scheduled home game is not until two moths later (York April 7). At least four away games followed by three home matches. That takes some bad planning to organise.
  8. I think that 119-2 record score was pre 1982 in the days of the three-point try.
  9. Maybe it's just the cynic in me but Wigan are reportedly DR-ing with Wakefield (already backed by big money) and Oldham (backed by new money and have already signed 27 players to play in a 20-game a season division) which means that they can afford to pay the lion's share of any fee on players they get from Wigan. I don't believe in DR anyway so this is more of a observation than a moan. It's going to be tough but we've had it tough before.
  10. I have always thought that this was a contrived way of ranking cubs but for what it's worth (and I'm not sure what will mean) I think that is about right for Barrow. Elsewhere there are fans screaming blue murder about their gradings, the Raiders have two ladies teams, Furness Academy, a local recruitment better than any and a history and a matchday experience that encourages families. (Just see how many young children dressed in their club colours are on duty to gold the giant flag before kick-offs.). As an oldie (translated by many as a dinosaur) I believe that clubs should be graded by what happens on the field and everything else, however important, should come second
  11. Why are so many people trying to turn this into a Championship v. League One competition. It isn't - it's about the survival of 22 clubs. And as for Championship clubs being a tight knit community. That doesn't make sense. It is so short-sighted. As things are, two of them will be in League One in 2025 to be replaced by two from League One. Four clubs change places. Do they then change loyalties?
  12. Crikey and here was I thinking that this topic was about the future set-up of the Championship and League One but if you want to go back to the situation in 1995 do carry on.
  13. Just to avoid any confusion about self interest - I do not support a League One club. The chairman of my own Championship club offered a suggestion of an interim solution which appeared to have some merit but I don't hold out much hopes of it ever seeing the light of day. Signing off.
  14. OK, I've already apologised for spelling Workington wrong.
  15. You may be right Rovers13 that I am missing the point - or is it just that we have different points. I don't have a solution other than an 8-team League One is not it. Unless they are willing to play each other three or four times, otherwise the only solution to losing money on matches is to play no games at all. I know this sounds like a report from the dark ages in some people's minds but until 1973 we had one division of 30 clubs and they didn't have to play each other home and away before the play-offs to make it work. And if even Australia can draw up a fixture list of 24 games for 17 clubs it can't be all that difficult to accommodate 22 in one division.
  16. If it is an expansion division why will it have Swinton, Oldham, Rochdale, Hunslet and Keighley in it next season? Birmingham and North Wales are hardly an overnight trip so it is only Cornwall who are truly expansionist and if we can'r accommodate one or two long trips a season then the game really is in a mess of its own making.
  17. I am not sure that the clubs decide the make-up of the divisions - otherwise why would any club want to have a third division in the first place. The RFL governing body surely have enough clout to organise the game below Super League to draw up a fixture plan to suit the majority, An eight-team third division benefits nobosy.
  18. Congratulations to the Raiders ladies team who have just won promotion to the Women's Super League group one with a 14-8 win over Leigh Leopards in the play-off final at York. A trophy for the Craven Park cabinet
  19. There is not a lot more to be added to what has already been said except that if the RFL (and that means the member clubs) really wanted a club in London they would do something about it. If that means special measures for a period of say three years with a Development/Commercial/Media Officer paid from central funds in charge then give it a go. Otherwise the question is the RFL serious about the game outside the "heartlands".
  20. Great relief and a well-deserved win but I would hardly call a 9-2 penalty count against us as good discipline.
  21. TV specialists - first Bradford now Haven - Certainly not camera-shy these Raiders. Great result.
  22. Today's TV picks is the i newspaper by regular columnist Matt Butler includes this about the Hull-Saints tie: The Challenge Cup quarter-finals. Rugby League is a sport that deserves a lot more love but the game's custodians appear hell-bent on keeping "their sport" to themselves. Well, they can't hide it away from us this time, it's plastered across the BBC. Of course further down the page in the Fixtures column it is entered as Coral Challenge Cup. Ah well. from little acprns, etc.
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