jacksy Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_traumatic_encephalopathyI was watching Will Smiths new movie Concussion (NFL) last night and it got me wondering. There are a ex amateur players I know who are suffering brain disorders/diseases. Is it possible that we may have a hidden time-bomb within RL? Rugby Union the only game in the world were the spectators handle the ball more than the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 It is a subject that has been causing a lot of concern in both codes of Rugby in the last year or so, as well as American Football, and the potential impact could be massive, especially when it comes to playing either game in schools. Now even Football has had stories about repeated heading of the ball causing incremental damage. Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorquif Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I think the problem with NFL is that the players were basically told that the game was safe and the helmets prevented damage. The players were even encouraged to make head-to-head hits. All the while the NFL knew that was not very good for the players. On the contrary, RL makes rules to try to limit contact to the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longboard Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_traumatic_encephalopathy I was watching Will Smiths new movie Concussion (NFL) last night and it got me wondering. There are a ex amateur players I know who are suffering brain disorders/diseases. Is it possible that we may have a hidden time-bomb within RL? Yup. Here's one example of the impact of blows to the head:- http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11264856 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksy Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 The introduction of the 10m rule changed the game to a high impact collision sport. The game is now a continuous series of car crash impacts...does that have a detrimental effect on the brain? Rugby Union the only game in the world were the spectators handle the ball more than the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 The introduction of the 10m rule changed the game to a high impact collision sport. The game is now a continuous series of car crash impacts...does that have a detrimental effect on the brain? It worries me that it probably does, and there may be a backlash against exposing children to potential brain damage. Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksy Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 I cannot see any mention of CTE related to any RL players but there is a Union player mentioned. I think league should lead on this and not ignore it like the NFL. As I understand it, there is nothing to protect against this and no test ''whilst alive'' that can be carried out. Children are even more susceptible due to the brain being less developed and able to move even more freely. Rugby Union the only game in the world were the spectators handle the ball more than the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I cannot see any mention of CTE related to any RL players but there is a Union player mentioned. I think league should lead on this and not ignore it like the NFL. As I understand it, there is nothing to protect against this and no test ''whilst alive'' that can be carried out. Children are even more susceptible due to the brain being less developed and able to move even more freely. The concussion rule during matches has been enforced more in the last season or two. It may just be scratching the surface, but it shows that there are justifiable worries within RL. Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odsal Outlaw Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I think toam a degree though you know the risk when you play the sport. I personally think things like the shoulder charge should return to RL and we just need to punish head contact harder to discourage it. All walks of life have risk we just need to try and limit it without sanitising the game. Nottingham Outlaws Rugby League Harry Jepson Winners 2008 RLC Midlands Premier Champions 2006 & 2008 East Midlands Challenge Cup Winners 2005, 2006, 2007 & 2008 Rotterdam International 9's Cup Winners 2005 RLC North Midlands Champions 2003 & 2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 It will be interesting when the artificially outraged "The children! Why don't we think of the children?" headline storm erupts (probably in the Daily Express), how any mention or condemnation of one very particular oval-ball code is miraculously glossed over. Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjonn Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Any sport including RL should always be as meticulous about minimizing injury, not only ensuring appropriate laws of the game but that they are keenly applied. Otherwise irrespective of the payers taking unnecessary risks the governing bodies themselves are opening the sport to litigation and bad publicity that could seriously damage the game. Where medical advice is given that certain types of play or actions can lead to injury, short or long term they can not ignore it. No matter whether fans (or themselves, clubs or players) think that implementing changes spoil a particular aspect of the game. e.g. shoulder charge, etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copa Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Now even Football has had stories about repeated heading of the ball causing incremental damage. US studies have shown that girls who play soccer are significantly more likely to suffer concussion than boys who play soccer. They are not sure why this occurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnaby Reddin Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 It will be interesting when the artificially outraged "The children! Why don't we think of the children?" headline storm erupts (probably in the Daily Express), how any mention or condemnation of one very particular oval-ball code is miraculously glossed over. Interesting take on the issue.....Not influenced by actual facts, but yet again opinion. The Express The Heil The Torygraph .......still, let's not et the tin foil hat get in the way of actual reality! All Contact sports carry a risk and both codes of Rugby are high on the danger list.......but if we wrap our kids in cotton wool then we will be poorer for it IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longboard Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I think toam a degree though you know the risk when you play the sport. I personally think things like the shoulder charge should return to RL and we just need to punish head contact harder to discourage it. All walks of life have risk we just need to try and limit it without sanitising the game. I suppose the question is also do people know the risks? Do you think that young rugby players know the risks of traumatic brain injury for example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksy Posted January 15, 2016 Author Share Posted January 15, 2016 I suppose the question is also do people know the risks? Do you think that young rugby players know the risks of traumatic brain injury for example? No Rugby Union the only game in the world were the spectators handle the ball more than the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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