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Please excuse the language on the tweet, but this is doing the rounds.

Needs stamping out the game and quickly. 

Reminds me of the other year when hookers would throw the ball at a player on the floor to get a penalty. 

Poor.

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1 hour ago, hunsletgreenandgold said:

Didn't play (or even attempt to) the ball with the foot - turnover for me. Genuinely embarrassing compared to the NRL. 

And all the fault must lay with the law makers and the referees for not enforcing proper pkay the balls, albeit the NRL are not as strict as they were a couple of years ago, the standard is light years ahead of SL, one thought has to be what will happen come the WC and the SL based players with Southern Hemisphere refs, will our lads suddenly be able to change, and just as important will NRL internationals exploit the lack of enforcing it. Mr Wane should be telling the refs controller he wants our refs to get our player's used to playing to the rules.

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1 hour ago, Harry Stottle said:

And all the fault must lay with the law makers and the referees for not enforcing proper pkay the balls, albeit the NRL are not as strict as they were a couple of years ago, the standard is light years ahead of SL, one thought has to be what will happen come the WC and the SL based players with Southern Hemisphere refs, will our lads suddenly be able to change, and just as important will NRL internationals exploit the lack of enforcing it. Mr Wane should be telling the refs controller he wants our refs to get our player's used to playing to the rules.

You should check out the RFL`s short video explaining this year`s new rules. It confirms by implication what we`ve been able to see for years. Namely, that players are no longer required to even attempt to play the ball in the UK. A rollball, as long as there is "balance and control", will now suffice . They just haven`t yet had the integrity to explicitly say so in the rulebook or written guidelines.

Putting all the evidence together, the RFL`s current position is that the rollball is both illegal and acceptable.

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2 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:

And all the fault must lay with the law makers and the referees for not enforcing proper pkay the balls, albeit the NRL are not as strict as they were a couple of years ago, the standard is light years ahead of SL, one thought has to be what will happen come the WC and the SL based players with Southern Hemisphere refs, will our lads suddenly be able to change, and just as important will NRL internationals exploit the lack of enforcing it. Mr Wane should be telling the refs controller he wants our refs to get our player's used to playing to the rules.

This illustrates the value of a second on-field official on the offensive side of the ball to police such things.  As you say, the NRL are not as strict as they were a couple of years ago and that's likely due to them reverting back to just the one ref.

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3 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:

 one thought has to be what will happen come the WC and the SL based players with Southern Hemisphere refs, will our lads suddenly be able to change,

SH refs have not yet been willing to penalise English players using the rollball. Whether this is their own reluctance, or the RFL has warned them not to, is unclear. Good example was the 2019 PNG/GB game in Port Moresby. The Aussie ref made no attempt to enforce the rules against English players as he would have done back in Oz.

The RFL`s baleful dissembling was graphically evident in the French pre-season game between Catalans and an Elite 1 selection. In that game, both teams, including most of the Elite 1 players were allowed to use the rollball by the French ref. The following week, when back playing in Elite 1, those same players resumed using a PTB. And if they hadn`t, the same ref would have penalised them off the park.

The only possible conclusion is that the French players and ref were told that the game would be played under SL "rules".

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1 hour ago, Big Picture said:

This illustrates the value of a second on-field official on the offensive side of the ball to police such things.  As you say, the NRL are not as strict as they were a couple of years ago and that's likely due to them reverting back to just the one ref.

I agree with this in an NRL context.

But in the UK, where the rollball has been de facto legalised, why would a second ref make any difference?

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We could sort out the play the ball in a very short amount of time. Just penalise every single incorrect play the ball and the problem dissappear... it is not a hard skill to execute.

Funnily enough one of the very few players to play the ball correctly at the moment is Jack Welsby and I think he was the only player last year to be penalised. 

Oh, and a sin bin for the types of antics Aiden Sezer got up to. It's just cheating, plain and simple.

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49 minutes ago, unapologetic pedant said:

I agree with this in an NRL context.

But in the UK, where the rollball has been de facto legalised, why would a second ref make any difference?

I only recognize one context, where correct play-the-balls are enforced.  I have no interest in watching the bastardized form of the game where they aren't enforced.

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