NRL expansion (Merged Threads)

[Copa]

The Bears have a rubbish home ground on a cricket field and they’ll constantly undermine any deals with organisations/people in Perth until they get their standalone team, the north Sydney bears back in the NRL.

I wouldn’t trust them at all.

The PNG option is interesting. Footy aside, it’s an extremely affordable option for increasing Australia’s national security against Chinese influence to the north. Team management, performance and player management will have to be immaculately planned to ensure both the NRL and Australia’s national security are well served.

Edited May 13 by Copa

[John bird]

3 hours ago, Balmainboy said:

But the Aus gov won’t give the NRL £35m per year for ten years for that (but I do agree with your point on achieving the same goals). 

What happens after 10 years?

 

who picks up the bill then?

[John bird]

3 hours ago, Copa said:

The Bears have a rubbish home ground on a cricket field and they’ll constantly undermine any deals with organisations/people in Perth until they get their standalone team, the north Sydney bears back in the NRL.

 

I wouldn’t trust them at all.

The PNG option is interesting. Footy aside, it’s an extremely affordable option for increasing Australia’s national security against Chinese influence to the north. Team management, performance and player management will have to be immaculately planned to ensure both the NRL and Australia’s national security are well served.

I agree regarding the bears and their ultimate goal of doing to Perth want manly did to them 2 decades ago.

as for PNG they would be dependent on the governments of today in both Canberra and PNG and if I’ve learned anything about politics and politicians it’s that I wouldn’t trust them as far as I could throw them and that policies can change overnight.

[John bird]

5 hours ago, NRLandSL said:

Not just Geopolitical options. They have the biggest rugby league player base and fan base in the world. It’s incredibly deserved.

PNG is also an incredibly poor country whose population has very little disposable income.

[John bird]

6 hours ago, Damien said:

Not necessarily, it can still be done without conferences. You could even just go to 24 in time, with Melbourne 2 and Central Coast as well, and have the same number of games as now

I can see the pros and cons of conferences but people do talk about them with 20 teams too.

I personally like the idea of conferences but I’d be lying if I knew how to organize them and on what basis you would put teams into the 2 different conferences.

[John bird]

6 hours ago, Balmainboy said:

Fan of PNG, not so on Perth Bears.

Believe the Bears will only get a few games in Sydney though which is better than half...

The bears would already get potentially 9 Sydney games when playing away games against the Sydney based teams .

[John bird]

6 hours ago, Balmainboy said:

Fantasy could very well become reality quite quickly. I'm aware of the challenges but the upside is huge. Arguably more potential players in PNG than any other country in the world. 

Again PNG is a poor 3rd world country with all the problems that come with being such.

also the logistics of such a team would be a nightmare for the  players and coaching/backroom staff .

[marklaspalmas]

9 hours ago, John bird said:

Northern eagles?

Was that not the merger with Manly 20 years ago?

A couple of years ago, a team based at Gosford was mooted.

[Damien]

3 hours ago, John bird said:

I personally like the idea of conferences but I’d be lying if I knew how to organize them and on what basis you would put teams into the 2 different conferences.

Most seem to revolve around some sort of NSW based conference and then the rest. I was open to them but then people pointed out the faults and I've been persuaded they aren't a good idea.

As the NRL have never even had a straightforward home and away schedule they just seem needless anyway.

[John bird]

7 hours ago, marklaspalmas said:

Was that not the merger with Manly 20 years ago?

A couple of years ago, a team based at Gosford was mooted.

Yeah, Manly and norths merged to form the northern eagles and played on the central coast.

I always thought that the manly sea eagles should have relocated to the central coast but that won’t happen now what with all the redevelopment at Brookvale oval.

[marklaspalmas]

2 minutes ago, John bird said:

Yeah, Manly and norths merged to form the northern eagles and played on the central coast.

I always thought that the manly sea eagles should have relocated to the central coast but that won’t happen now what with all the redevelopment at Brookvale oval.

I wasn't referring to Manly.

I was referring to another franchise which would see Norths play out of Gosford. Maybe around the time when the Titans came in.

[John bird]

17 minutes ago, marklaspalmas said:

I wasn't referring to Manly.

I was referring to another franchise which would see Norths play out of Gosford. Maybe around the time when the Titans came in.

Was maybe one of the other bids that lost out to the titans.

 Central coast stadium was originally built for the bears but bad weather delayed construction and then the NRL introduced the policy of rationalization of Sydney based clubs.

[marklaspalmas]

18 minutes ago, John bird said:

Was maybe one of the other bids that lost out to the titans.

 Central coast stadium was originally built for the bears but bad weather delayed construction and then the NRL introduced the policy of rationalization of Sydney based clubs.

Norths had already been out a few years by then. Gosford is now built. Is this a non starter for the Bears now?

[Sports Prophet]

8 hours ago, marklaspalmas said:

Norths had already been out a few years by then. Gosford is now built. Is this a non starter for the Bears now?

It should be the only strategy the Bears consider. Every other bid/partnership idea of theirs is a distraction from putting together a very strong bid in Gosford.

[John bird]

19 hours ago, Sports Prophet said:

It should be the only strategy the Bears consider. Every other bid/partnership idea of theirs is a distraction from putting together a very strong bid in Gosford.

The Central coast should definitely be an expansion option for the NRL and the bears are the best and most obvious choice.

[The 4 of Us]

Only 62 posts to go.

[John bird]

Looks like the NRL bosses are playing the guessing game.

 

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/bigger-and-better-nrl-has-bold-plans-for-las-vegas-20-with-clubs-to-be-locked-in-next-month/news-story/3611c53d153204f938bd84be5522ffaf

[marklaspalmas]

On 15/05/2024 at 20:44, The 4 of Us said:

Only 62 posts to go.

Do people still do that?

[The 4 of Us]

3 minutes ago, marklaspalmas said:

Do people still do that?

Losing momentum but I reckon so. 

[marklaspalmas]

6 minutes ago, The 4 of Us said:

Losing momentum but I reckon so. 

It was quite the fashion back in the day.

[Sports Prophet]

3 hours ago, marklaspalmas said:

It was quite the fashion back in the day.

I notorious for being behind the fashion, what are we talking about, I want a go

[John bird]

Potential PNG players could be offered “danger money.”

 

https://archive.is/2024.05.16-203746/https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-2024-peter-vlandys-says-players-could-be-offered-incentives-to-join-papua-new-guinea-expansion-side/news-story/a1708643255620dbb2bb9c1c7bdfe072?amp&nk=d4862e849684acfd67804ada9b9dc4b4-1715891878

 

Another reason why this ridiculous idea should never happen.

[Damien]

2 hours ago, John bird said:

Potential PNG players could be offered “danger money.”

 

https://archive.is/2024.05.16-203746/https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-2024-peter-vlandys-says-players-could-be-offered-incentives-to-join-papua-new-guinea-expansion-side/news-story/a1708643255620dbb2bb9c1c7bdfe072?amp&nk=d4862e849684acfd67804ada9b9dc4b4-1715891878

 

Another reason why this ridiculous idea should never happen.

I suppose tax breaks to incentivise players to go there doesn't sound as exciting as 'danger money'.

[Tommygilf]

I think the PNG option is definitely one the game should explore, its very rare that RL receives such significant government support and we should take advantage of these opportunities where they arise.

[NRLandSL]

4 hours ago, John bird said:

Potential PNG players could be offered “danger money.”

 

https://archive.is/2024.05.16-203746/https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-2024-peter-vlandys-says-players-could-be-offered-incentives-to-join-papua-new-guinea-expansion-side/news-story/a1708643255620dbb2bb9c1c7bdfe072?amp&nk=d4862e849684acfd67804ada9b9dc4b4-1715891878

 

Another reason why this ridiculous idea should never happen.

V’landys never said “Danger Money” that’s just a load of dribble from the article. All he said was players would make more in PNG because of lower tax rates.

I’m not sure why you think this idea is “ridiculous”. If rugby league want’s to grow, tapping into our biggest player and audience base in the world is probably a smart idea.

And I genuinely believe rugby league will do big things for the saftey of Port Moresby. It would bring a lot of tourism and money which would improve the city drastically.