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2 hours ago, Richard de la Riviere said:

Has it made you order one?!

Just browsing. Looking for one I can paint the ceiling with.

Re Chantelle Crowl - My impression is that her offload game went under a shell around 2022. Not as many plays like the late offload that set up a try for Tara Jones against the French in Perpignan 2021. Maybe a partial resurgence this season?

Guessing it's a confidence thing, particularly in big games where lost possession might be costly.

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On 07/06/2024 at 14:27, unapologetic pedant said:

Just browsing. Looking for one I can paint the ceiling with.

Re Chantelle Crowl - My impression is that her offload game went under a shell around 2022. Not as many plays like the late offload that set up a try for Tara Jones against the French in Perpignan 2021. Maybe a partial resurgence this season?

Guessing it's a confidence thing, particularly in big games where lost possession might be costly.

Good question! One thing I remember from the Woman of Steel documentary, or should I say hour-long character assassination, was Craig Richards at the 2022 cup final (and he wasn’t Saints coach) criticising her for offloading. Their first try that day (when they were losing after 30 minutes) came a couple of plays after she’d offloaded. 

The modern game is tough for offloaders. Coaches don’t really like it and fans always criticise when it goes wrong. The modern obsession with field position has almost destroyed the art  

Channy got one away yesterday and I think three in the semi-final, but you’re right, she doesn’t offload as much. 

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12 minutes ago, Richard de la Riviere said:

Good question! One thing I remember from the Woman of Steel documentary, or should I say hour-long character assassination, was Craig Richards at the 2022 cup final (and he wasn’t Saints coach) criticising her for offloading. 

Don't know if you saw the half-time talk from the Port Moresby defeat in the England tour of PNG doc. 

"Just hold the ####### ball. Mate, there's no need in the world to get an offload. Just hold the ####### ball for me"

The player to whom that was addressed is obscured. For the record, wasn't Channy. 

Followed up with -

"Just need to finish our sets"

"Keep it nice and simple"

He basically told them to stop doing anything creative with the ball. I was pleased we'd lost after seeing that.

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Its just the way of the world and we saw a bit more of it in Saturdays final with it just been pretty much a power struggle and unfortunatley that is the way the womens game will go as standards raise year on year and the players become better and better athletes and coaches look to find their edge on the stat sheet rather than from some individual brilliance or flair. 

For me at the moment that flair is what makes the womens and girls game so good because we still see that individual talent rather than every team from u12's upwards playing to the same structure like in the lads game. Don't get me wrong coaches coaching the girls are trying to get them playing that structure but with thousands of hours less rugby experience than most lads it takes time and will often go wrong and that just allows that off the cuff brilliance to show up. I pray that the games leaders do whatever they can to avoid turning the game in to one big wrestle like we see at mens SL level.

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16 hours ago, Richard de la Riviere said:

Good question! One thing I remember from the Woman of Steel documentary, or should I say hour-long character assassination, was Craig Richards at the 2022 cup final (and he wasn’t Saints coach) criticising her for offloading. Their first try that day (when they were losing after 30 minutes) came a couple of plays after she’d offloaded. 

The funny thing after the World Cup was the comments on the England coach from members of the media who obviously don't watch the women's game unless they have to.

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48 minutes ago, RigbyLuger said:

The funny thing after the World Cup was the comments on the England coach from members of the media who obviously don't watch the women's game unless they have to.

Do you mean comments from those supporting him? Or do you mean me?! 

At Wembley on Saturday, I spoke to several journalists who were very clued up. There were about 40 in place for the kick off which exceeded my expectations. There were about a dozen present at the pressers which I thought was ok given they were staged just before the men’s game kicked off. 

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1 hour ago, Richard de la Riviere said:

Do you mean comments from those supporting him? Or do you mean me?! 

 

Those supporting him without question over the likes of why no Peach etc. 

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1 hour ago, RigbyLuger said:

Those supporting him without question over the likes of why no Peach etc. 

yeah I was amazed the bbc covered every game and no one mentioned peach or crowl, especially when the semi-final unfolded as it did. It was great they covered every game, but you can’t avoid issues like that. 

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The last couple of years these games have been played behind closed doors.

The most ridiculous idea I’ve ever heard, no crowd, no filming except the coaching staff, no match reports no nothing.

What the flick is that all about ?

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They played them in 2021 in the lead up to the World Cup which was subsequently put back to 2022.

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Everything under the sun is in tune

But the sun is eclipsed by the moon

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54 minutes ago, Richard de la Riviere said:

there was one last autumn which Lancashire won convincingly, but I don't know any more than that.

I thought that was the first since 2020, but might be wrong.

The question is though, why is it kept a secret ?

Everything under the sun is in tune

But the sun is eclipsed by the moon

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On 12/06/2024 at 09:01, BroncoFan said:

The last couple of years these games have been played behind closed doors.

The most ridiculous idea I’ve ever heard, no crowd, no filming except the coaching staff, no match reports no nothing.

What the flick is that all about ?

There was a bit of momentum behind the two games in 2019. All dissipated by the three in the middle of Covid the following year.

RFL face the customary dilemma - Lancashire v Yorkshire in the UK doesn't possess the kudos of New South Wales v Queensland in Australia.

In Oz, Women's Origin is now arguably more valuable to Women's RL than Men's Origin is to Men's RL. 

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18 minutes ago, Richard de la Riviere said:

England Under-18s *might* be touring Australia next year. with the senior women. The Academy competition is absolutely fantastic! What might the team look like? https://

womensrl.com/?p=279

Are you sure it will be under-18s?

NSW and QLD junior rep comps are under-19s. Plus they play under-19s Origin. Very likely the Aussies will want to select from that age group.

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On 14/06/2024 at 16:51, unapologetic pedant said:

Are you sure it will be under-18s?

NSW and QLD junior rep comps are under-19s. Plus they play under-19s Origin. Very likely the Aussies will want to select from that age group.

I heard u18 from two different sources, but anything is possible tbh. 

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1 hour ago, Richard de la Riviere said:

I heard u18 from two different sources, but anything is possible tbh. 

The under-19s NSW/QLD Origin is this Thursday at Leichhardt Oval. Both teams were frighteningly good on previous occasions.

I'd be interested to know if anyone (players, coaches, officials) potentially involved in an England Academy tour will be following the game. Give a sense of what they might be up against.

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