Congratulations to Ken Davy and others in honours list

[Wiltshire Warrior Dragon]

8 minutes ago, JohnM said:

Quite so. I post this every year: Nominate someone for an honour or award: Overview - GOV.UK

Initially, there's no tick box to choose which award you are nominating someone for. Not sure if there is a choice further down the process since it appears that you actually have to start the process at some point.  

Maybe we could try to nomonate one of the mods and see what happens. ....

Nice idea!

I did once think that some of the players of previous generations, still - happily - with us, deserve an honour, or an honour upgrade, and did think Billy Boston deserved putting forward in the latter category.

[The Future is League]

20 minutes ago, JohnM said:

You don't like The Sun.

I don't like the Mirror.

1 - 1

Extra time being played over in the politics sub forum.

 

 

Where did I say i didn't like The Sun?

I did say the Daily Mirror was my newspaper of choice, but i said nothing about The Sun.

Any national newspaper that gives our game positive news is fine in my book.

[JohnM]

1 hour ago, The Future is League said:

Where did I say i didn't like The Sun?

I did say the Daily Mirror was my newspaper of choice, but i said nothing about The Sun.

Any national newspaper that gives our game positive news is fine in my book.

Profound apologies. Twas Dullish Mood. As a penance I will crawl naked  on my hands and knees to League Express HQ .

[daz39]

On 31/12/2024 at 11:00, JohnM said:

In my opinion, this thread is just about the welcome recognition of people behind the scenes within our sport. I include Ken Davy in that because outside RL and Huddersfield, he has no profile.

Ken is a huge success in business and finance, not just in RL and Huddersfield

https://huddersfieldhub.co.uk/ken-davy-awarded-obe-in-kings-new-years-honours-and-reveals-latest-on-hopes-for-new-huddersfield-giants-stadium/

[JohnM]

On 01/01/2025 at 17:36, daz39 said:

Ken is a huge success in business and finance, not just in RL and Huddersfield

https://huddersfieldhub.co.uk/ken-davy-awarded-obe-in-kings-new-years-honours-and-reveals-latest-on-hopes-for-new-huddersfield-giants-stadium/

Yes, I know that, you know that, the whole of Huddersfield knows that, but do the general public? He's one of the good guys that our sport do desperately needs. That was kind of my point when I wrote  "the welcome recognition of people behind the scenes within our sport."

Edited January 2 by JohnM
Clarify comment re. Ken Davy

[Wiltshire Warrior Dragon]

On 01/01/2025 at 14:15, JohnM said:

Profound apologies. Twas Dullish Mood. As a penance I will crawl naked  on my hands and knees to League Express HQ .

Have you got a date and time arranged for your crawl, JohnM?  Just asking for a friend!

[Wiltshire Warrior Dragon]

'The Times newspaper' and 'good rugby league' coverage are not phrases that logically sit well together.  I read that paper daily, but not for how it covers our great game.

So - credit where it is due - there is an excellent and well researched piece by Owen Slot, their chief sports writer, on the back page of today's sports supplement.  It is entitled "Rugby league is due its first knight - but Sir Kev must wait his turn."

Slot chronicles the disappointment in Hull that Clive Sullivan was not thus honoured, quotes from Anthony Broxton's book "Hope and Glory - RL in Thatcher's Britain" and alludes to what Carolyn Hitt discovered in making her BBC documentary "The Rugby Codebreakers", namely that racial prejudice was a motivating factor for coloured, Welsh RU players like Sullivan and Billy Boston in moving north.

Slot recognises the procedural technicality which might require Sinfield's elevation to a knighthood to be delayed by a year or two.  He proposes that Boston be elevated accordingly.  The piece ends thus: "Boston is 90. Let him arise as rugby league's first knight before it is too late."

I commend the article to you.

Edited January 4 by Wiltshire Warrior Dragon
spelling error

[JohnM]

28 minutes ago, Wiltshire Warrior Dragon said:

Have you got a date and time arranged for your crawl, JohnM?  Just asking for a friend!

Awe...you missed it. It was yesterday.

[dkw]

2 hours ago, Wiltshire Warrior Dragon said:

'The Times newspaper' and 'good rugby league' coverage are not phrases that logically sit well together.  I read that paper daily, but not for how it covers our great game.

So - credit where it is due - there is an excellent and well researched piece by Owen Slot, their chief sports writer, on the back page of today's sports supplement.  It is entitled "Rugby league is due its first knight - but Sir Kev must wait his turn."

Slot chronicles the disappointment in Hull that Clive Sullivan was not thus honoured, quotes from Anthony Broxton's book "Hope and Glory - RL in Thatcher's Britain" and alludes to what Carolyn Hitt discovered in making her BBC documentary "The Rugby Codebreakers", namely that racial prejudice was a motivating factor for coloured, Welsh RU players like Sullivan and Billy Boston in moving north.

Slot recognises the procedural technicality which might require Sinfield's elevation to a knighthood to be delayed by a year or two.  He proposes that Boston be elevated accordingly.  The piece ends thus: "Boston is 90. Let him arise as rugby league's first knight before it is too late."

I commend the article to you.

I think it's quite sad that a certain element has decided to use Kevin Sinfield not getting a knighthood as a political weapon, there's enough of an argument against a lack of RL knighthoods already, but in thus case there is a legitimate reason he didn't get one this year.

[gingerjon]

18 hours ago, dkw said:

I think it's quite sad that a certain element has decided to use Kevin Sinfield not getting a knighthood as a political weapon, there's enough of an argument against a lack of RL knighthoods already, but in thus case there is a legitimate reason he didn't get one this year.

Most pertinently of all, in all cases, no one seems to have considered that the people involved simply may not want the knighthood for either political or personal reasons, or both. And, aside from a handful of people who make it public, most people who turn down honours never say they have.

[Damien]

Nice article in the Times about RL and the honours list:

 

[Wiltshire Warrior Dragon]

On 04/01/2025 at 10:47, Wiltshire Warrior Dragon said:

'The Times newspaper' and 'good rugby league' coverage are not phrases that logically sit well together.  I read that paper daily, but not for how it covers our great game.

So - credit where it is due - there is an excellent and well researched piece by Owen Slot, their chief sports writer, on the back page of today's sports supplement.  It is entitled "Rugby league is due its first knight - but Sir Kev must wait his turn."

Slot chronicles the disappointment in Hull that Clive Sullivan was not thus honoured, quotes from Anthony Broxton's book "Hope and Glory - RL in Thatcher's Britain" and alludes to what Carolyn Hitt discovered in making her BBC documentary "The Rugby Codebreakers", namely that racial prejudice was a motivating factor for coloured, Welsh RU players like Sullivan and Billy Boston in moving north.

Slot recognises the procedural technicality which might require Sinfield's elevation to a knighthood to be delayed by a year or two.  He proposes that Boston be elevated accordingly.  The piece ends thus: "Boston is 90. Let him arise as rugby league's first knight before it is too late."

I commend the article to you.

 

On 05/01/2025 at 14:38, Damien said:

Nice article in the Times about RL and the honours list:

 

Owen Slot's article last Saturday clearly prompted a very warm conversation - possibly wholly by email - with Clive Sullivan's widow.  The consequence is a very good piece about Clive on today's sports supplement back page of The Times.  A rugby league feature in The Times two Saturdays running - who'd have thought it!

[Damien]

8 hours ago, Wiltshire Warrior Dragon said:

 

Owen Slot's article last Saturday clearly prompted a very warm conversation - possibly wholly by email - with Clive Sullivan's widow.  The consequence is a very good piece about Clive on today's sports supplement back page of The Times.  A rugby league feature in The Times two Saturdays running - who'd have thought it!

Article here:

 

[RigbyLuger]

Bit naughty to post an article which is behind a paywall.

[Wiltshire Warrior Dragon]

44 minutes ago, Damien said:

Article here:

 

Interestingly, the sub-article under the headline "Textile boss in game's fabric" points out that a rugby league professional has already been knighted.  The man in question is Sir James William Bulmer - Billy Bulmer. 

By all accounts, he rose from modest circumstances, which included starting his working life in a joinery at the age of ten.  However, he seems to have progressed well and in his early twenties, purchased the joinery business when his employer retired.  He went on to own several mills and warehouses in the Halifax and Bradford area.  His companies produced huge amounts of khaki cloth for the army in WWI.  he also served on the Wool Textile Control Board and the Wool Statistical Committee.

It was all that work which seems to have secured his knighthood which was for 'public services'.

Nevertheless, he was also a professional RL player, winning two challenge cups with Halifax, and being picked for Yorkshire.  He also played, for England, in the first ever international at Central Park, Wigan, in 1904 (England 3, Other Nationalities 9)

However, as I say, no reference to his rugby in the knighthood citation, it would seem.