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#1 3owls

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 08:19 AM

Nathan Brown had his say a couple of months back but it would appear nothing has changed on the evidence of last night. Last nights wigan v wire game was a classic for R.L fans with some huge hits but one cowardly act soured it for me. If Joel Tomkins gets away with anything less than a 4 match ban for his thuggish late elbow into Mylers face then the R.F.L aren't serious about protecting our fine young talents. A big hit face to face is one thing but coming four yards to drop into someones face when they can't protect themselves is totally unacceptable. It's now or never for the disciplinary panel to lay down a marker and protect talents like Myler.

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 08:23 AM

QUOTE (3owls @ Jul 17 2010, 09:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nathan Brown had his say a couple of months back but it would appear nothing has changed on the evidence of last night. Last nights wigan v wire game was a classic for R.L fans with some huge hits but one cowardly act soured it for me. If Joel Tomkins gets away with anything less than a 4 match ban for his thuggish late elbow into Mylers face then the R.F.L aren't serious about protecting our fine young talents. A big hit face to face is one thing but coming four yards to drop into someones face when they can't protect themselves is totally unacceptable. It's now or never for the disciplinary panel to lay down a marker and protect talents like Myler.

Must admit I wasn't happy with that at the time, I was just relieved he wasn't hurt.

They do seem to have had a clamp down on the hitting the player after they have passed the ball though, which you can't really argue with, there were three penalties for it last night.

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 08:27 AM

whether the player is little or big,good player or bad player,he has a right to be protected from late/dangerous shots. The referees are responsible for protecting all players.

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 08:27 AM

Joel was a silly silly boy, i'll be happy for the RFL to decide.


but i'm not happy with him. (but he was born in Warrington we'll let him off)

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 08:30 AM

QUOTE (1976PMJwires @ Jul 17 2010, 09:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Joel was a silly silly boy, i'll be happy for the RFL to decide.


but i'm not happy with him. (but he was born in Warrington we'll let him off)

I don't think it was great, and at the time (with beer and 3D goggles on) I was calling for him to be binned, but then I do think the slow motion replays make it seem worse. It was more the lateness for me, as I don't necessarily think he attacked Myler's head on purpose, although that was the outcome.

I would expect a warning about future conduct tbh.

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 08:37 AM

QUOTE (Dave T @ Jul 17 2010, 09:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think it was great, and at the time (with beer and 3D goggles on) I was calling for him to be binned, but then I do think the slow motion replays make it seem worse. It was more the lateness for me, as I don't necessarily think he attacked Myler's head on purpose, although that was the outcome.

I would expect a warning about future conduct tbh.



agree and agree.

Just hope this thread doesn't get out of hand.

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 08:41 AM

QUOTE (1976PMJwires @ Jul 17 2010, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
agree and agree.

Just hope this thread doesn't get out of hand.

Yep, that's why I am being quite restrained on the thread, and couldn't possibly get way with some of the expressions I used live at the time! sleep.gif

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 08:44 AM

QUOTE (Dave T @ Jul 17 2010, 09:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yep, that's why I am being quite restrained on the thread, and couldn't possibly get way with some of the expressions I used live at the time! sleep.gif




yep all the way with that comment...........my mrs has just asked "why are you laughing"......and i answered "because i'll start ranting about that tackle last night" ohmy.gif

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 10:13 AM

I was interested in the technique used by Warrington when charging the kicker.

Basically they lifted their leg and aimed to make contact with the hip. Now to me, this wouldn't be allowed in a normal tackle so why should it be allowed on a kicker?
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#10 Padge

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 11:28 AM

QUOTE (3owls @ Jul 17 2010, 09:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nathan Brown had his say a couple of months back but it would appear nothing has changed on the evidence of last night. Last nights wigan v wire game was a classic for R.L fans with some huge hits but one cowardly act soured it for me. If Joel Tomkins gets away with anything less than a 4 match ban for his thuggish late elbow into Mylers face then the R.F.L aren't serious about protecting our fine young talents. A big hit face to face is one thing but coming four yards to drop into someones face when they can't protect themselves is totally unacceptable. It's now or never for the disciplinary panel to lay down a marker and protect talents like Myler.

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 11:47 AM

QUOTE (Dave T @ Jul 17 2010, 09:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think it was great, and at the time (with beer and 3D goggles on) I was calling for him to be binned, but then I do think the slow motion replays make it seem worse. It was more the lateness for me, as I don't necessarily think he attacked Myler's head on purpose, although that was the outcome.

I would expect a warning about future conduct tbh.


Judging by how the disciplinary panel operates Myler will be cautioned for staying on the ground too long.

It was a very late tackle that was uncalled for and Tomkins should be banned.


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Posted 17 July 2010 - 12:06 PM

QUOTE (Padge @ Jul 17 2010, 12:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Oh give over.

This is a talking point and a stand alone incident of the match, when Leeds do it we rightly chastise them.

We can only comment on something our team hasn't done? Fine. Congrats Wire on winning! biggrin.gif

Slow-motion made it seem worse but I thought it may have been grounds for an 8-point try.

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 12:27 PM

QUOTE (hindle xiii @ Jul 17 2010, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh give over.

This is a talking point and a stand alone incident of the match, when Leeds do it we rightly chastise them.

We can only comment on something our team hasn't done? Fine. Congrats Wire on winning! biggrin.gif

Slow-motion made it seem worse but I thought it may have been grounds for an 8-point try.

Carvell on Tomkins?


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#14 hindle xiii

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 12:37 PM

QUOTE (Padge @ Jul 17 2010, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Carvell on Tomkins?

Was that the one two minutes into the game? unsure.gif I'll admit I fell asleep soon after the second half started, and woke to see Richard's 80m try, I wasn't bored, just very tired! So I'm watching it again soon so I can fill in the 20 minute or so blanks!!

All the late challenges on the kickers/passers were daft but penalised, some should've had cards but that was Silverwood's discretion. I think J Tomkins should've at least been penalised but seeing a penatly after a try is very rare.

My mine gripe was rather than challenging or debating the point, you just highlighted dirty Leeds. You're better than that old boy, you have a beard!

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 12:38 PM

And every kick? Have a look through the "challenges" after Wigan's kicks and come back to us.
This one eyed hysteria takes the biscuit doesn't it? At full speed it wasn't clear he had grounded the ball, as he slid over with it above him so Joel was right to try to challenge. He's a big lad sliding at speed.
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Posted 17 July 2010 - 12:48 PM

QUOTE (hindle xiii @ Jul 17 2010, 01:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Was that the one two minutes into the game? unsure.gif I'll admit I fell asleep soon after the second half started, and woke to see Richard's 80m try, I wasn't bored, just very tired! So I'm watching it again soon so I can fill in the 20 minute or so blanks!!

All the late challenges on the kickers/passers were daft but penalised, some should've had cards but that was Silverwood's discretion. I think J Tomkins should've at least been penalised but seeing a penatly after a try is very rare.

My mine gripe was rather than challenging or debating the point, you just highlighted dirty Leeds. You're better than that old boy, you have a beard!

I am not debating the point with someone who doesn't want to debate.

If he had also highlighted Anderson or Morley on Leuluai or Morley on Tomkins apart from the one I previously mentioned then I would believe he wanted a debate. It was a very poor fishing attempt.

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#17 hindle xiii

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 12:54 PM

QUOTE (Exiled Wiganer @ Jul 17 2010, 01:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And every kick? Have a look through the "challenges" after Wigan's kicks and come back to us.
This one eyed hysteria takes the biscuit doesn't it? At full speed it wasn't clear he had grounded the ball, as he slid over with it above him so Joel was right to try to challenge. He's a big lad sliding at speed.
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Me?

I'm not one-eyed, I wasn't fussed who's going to win*. I've bigger RL based problems closer to home. I'll concede slow-motion and wet weather made it look worse, but it was still late.

I've made comment on the late challenges, and Carvell's hit on Tomkins IMO would've been binned if not for being 2 minutes into the game, this is wrong, but it happened.

*and this 'everyone hates Wigan' self-defence excuse is boring.

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 12:56 PM

QUOTE (Padge @ Jul 17 2010, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am not debating the point with someone who doesn't want to debate.

If he had also highlighted Anderson or Morley on Leuluai or Morley on Tomkins apart from the one I previously mentioned then I would believe he wanted a debate. It was a very poor fishing attempt.

Boooooooooo!

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#19 Padge

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 01:01 PM

QUOTE (hindle xiii @ Jul 17 2010, 01:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Boooooooooo!

Wot you booin' at?

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 01:04 PM

QUOTE (Padge @ Jul 17 2010, 02:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wot you booin' at?

You's gone all wussy, rip NE-lite a new 'un.

If you use "should of", "would of" or "could of", you are a moron.

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