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Chris Bridge pulls out of 4 Nations for family reasons


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#1 Wendall

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 05:56 PM

WOLVES centre Chris Bridge has ruled himself out of England's Four Nations squad so he can be present for the birth of his first child.

The 26-year-old centre, who has recently returned from injury, is expecting a baby girl in November with partner Kirsten McCourt and has put his international duty on hold so he can concentrate on being a first-time father.

He said: "We are expecting our first child in early November and we are very excited.

"I spoke with Tony and to Steve Mac as soon as I realised there was a chance I would miss it and I decided that even if I was picked, I would not go.

http://www.warringto...r_Nations_tour/

Bad planning but who can really blame him for doing the right thing.

I reckon England's centre prospects look even bleaker with Yeaman called up today.

My centres would be Shenton and maybe throw Gaz Ellis in there as we have quality in the pack.





#2 Maximus Decimus

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 06:01 PM

QUOTE (Wendall @ Sep 13 2010, 06:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
WOLVES centre Chris Bridge has ruled himself out of England's Four Nations squad so he can be present for the birth of his first child.

The 26-year-old centre, who has recently returned from injury, is expecting a baby girl in November with partner Kirsten McCourt and has put his international duty on hold so he can concentrate on being a first-time father.

He said: "We are expecting our first child in early November and we are very excited.

"I spoke with Tony and to Steve Mac as soon as I realised there was a chance I would miss it and I decided that even if I was picked, I would not go.

http://www.warringto...r_Nations_tour/

Bad planning but who can really blame him for doing the right thing.

I reckon England's centre prospects look even bleaker with Yeaman called up today.

My centres would be Shenton and maybe throw Gaz Ellis in there as we have quality in the pack.


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#3 Brigg Rover

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 07:03 PM

Well I don't think he is one of the 2 best centres in Warringtons team, let alone the Country, so no problem for me.

#4 MrPosh

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 07:04 PM

I imagine that they are the same two blokes as they would have been.
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#5 scotthouston2008

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 07:46 AM

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#6 roughyedspud

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 08:14 AM

i'd stick joel tomkins at center

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#7 Dave T

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 08:22 AM

Under no circumstances should we consider playing a second rower at centre.

Whatever people think of Bridge, he made a decent debut last year, played again against France this year, and would likely have gone, especially if Warrington win on Saturday and he had a couple more games to prove fitness.



#8 boxhead

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 08:30 AM

QUOTE (Dave T @ Sep 14 2010, 09:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Under no circumstances should we consider playing a second rower at centre.

Whatever people think of Bridge, he made a decent debut last year, played again against France this year, and would likely have gone, especially if Warrington win on Saturday and he had a couple more games to prove fitness.



I agree.
England will have to score more than they let in.
Pace will win the day on dry hard pitches, second rowers will not make 50 metre breaks nor will they contain the speed out wide that the SH teams have in abundance.

#9 roughyedspud

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 08:43 AM

don't you have wingers in the RL you play??



centers break the line,wingers finish them off

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#10 scotthouston2008

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 08:48 AM

QUOTE (roughyedspud @ Sep 14 2010, 09:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
don't you have wingers in the RL you play??



centers break the line,wingers finish them off


yes, but having centres who are just as quick is a massive advantage and normal in this day and age.

#11 RP London

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 08:56 AM

i dont understand people wanting to play second rowers at centre to be honest..

Ryan atkins should be in the side for a start but we really need to make sure we arent playing players out of position.

#12 boxhead

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 08:58 AM

QUOTE (roughyedspud @ Sep 14 2010, 09:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
don't you have wingers in the RL you play??



centers break the line,wingers finish them off



Wingers are usually only as good as the service from their inside men.
Gasnier, Lyon and co will fancy their chances if they get one on one with a second rower.
If England has to put Forwards in the Centres as the best option its a lost cause.


#13 getdownmonkeyman

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 08:59 AM

QUOTE (MrPosh @ Sep 13 2010, 08:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I imagine that they are the same two blokes as they would have been.


Whom would they be?

#14 roughyedspud

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 09:00 AM

lee gilmour was actually playing on the wing for GB when he ghosted right down the middle of the australian defence to score in the 2006 tri nations game in sydney


centers & 2nd rowers are,and should be,pretty much interchangeable in modern day RL

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#15 Kenilworth Tiger

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 09:02 AM

I think I must be in the minority here as I like Bridge as a player and think his omission WILL weaken the squad. He always seems to run the ball in hard and run it in fast – if you have 13 of them on the park you won’t go far wrong.
Now then, it's a race between Sandie....and Fairburn....and the little man is in........yeees he's in.

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#16 boxhead

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 09:06 AM

QUOTE (roughyedspud @ Sep 14 2010, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
lee gilmour was actually playing on the wing for GB when he ghosted right down the middle of the australian defence to score in the 2006 tri nations game in sydney


centers & 2nd rowers are,and should be,pretty much interchangeable in modern day RL



I do not agree at all.
Most of the good Centres have totally different body types too Second Rowers.
You may have players like Watmough that can run wide during a game and punch holes through smaller defenders but they would soon be found out if they played wide all game.
Look at the best Centres most have tall rangy builds.

#17 Dave T

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 09:16 AM

When SL first started and we moved to summer there was an opinion that big forwards were a thing of the past, and centres and 2nd rowers were pretty much the same thing.

Nowadays I think there has been a shift back to bigger forwards knocking around and bigger packs are becomin more common.

At my team, Warrington, there is no way that you would have Westwood or Louis Anderson playng in the centres. They are out and out back-rowers these days, and too big for centre. That isn't to say that there aren't certain utility players who can cover both slots, we have Grix for one, and I'm sure the likes of King or Atkins could do a job in the 2nd row, but at Test level, this surely isn't where we want to go.

RP mentioned Atkins, and I agree that he is now looking more and more likely to get a chance. I have previously said I thought it was a year or two too early for him, as he still has some dvelopment work on his defence, but tbh as our options thin out, and the fact that he has had a good 2nd half to the season, I wonder whether he does deserve a run.

There is also the safer option of Shenton and Yeaman, who both have Test experience.

#18 StevieM13

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 09:21 AM

QUOTE (RP London @ Sep 14 2010, 09:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i dont understand people wanting to play second rowers at centre to be honest..

Ryan atkins should be in the side for a start but we really need to make sure we arent playing players out of position.


Back in the day, second rowers were often used during games as centres because they were bigger and as quick over shorter distances than a natural centre. Goodway, Betts, Haughton etc would all drift out wide.
Once full time came along and players bulked up, that differential was lost and the practice was and is less often used. Now you tend to see backs taking the place of forwards in the scrum so that the defensive line can be more solid and the pack can break quicker. Watch how the likes of Mathers pack down at loose.


#19 Scubby

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 09:34 AM

Tom Briscoe would be lining up in the centres for England had the Hull coach bothered to play him in his best position all season. dry.gif


#20 nadera78

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 09:56 AM

Now, I don't have kids so may be wrong here, but I'd rather be playing for my country in a test match against the Aussies than sitting in a hospital room with a screaming wife.
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