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#1 Wendall

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 06:20 PM

Okay it was the NW Tonight programme but it was the main sports news story in terms of coverage with a good interview from the guy, who I have a lot of time for as a person and even more since he didn't follow the mercenaries from over Billinge lump and take the union shilling!

It a shame the national media don't promote a guy like this in their sports programmes and publications, he is a true hero of sport.



#2 JohnM

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 06:31 PM

QUOTE (Wendall @ Sep 24 2010, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
he didn't follow the mercenaries from over Billinge lump and take the union shilling!


scared or not good enough, see? tongue.gif

Edited by JohnM, 24 September 2010 - 06:32 PM.


#3 Wendall

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 06:35 PM

QUOTE (JohnM @ Sep 24 2010, 07:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
scared or not good enough, see? tongue.gif


Try aincient and loyal! Something not many Wigan lads can preach from the mid nineties......



#4 JohnM

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 06:56 PM

Back on track: Cunningham is a credit to his club, his game (and his pie shop biggrin.gif )

Off track again: and he is certainly not a glory hunting fair weather fan attracted by the sheer glamour of a new stadium. tongue.gif

#5 Wendall

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 07:03 PM

QUOTE (JohnM @ Sep 24 2010, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Back on track: Cunningham is a credit to his club, his game (and his pie shop biggrin.gif )

Off track again: and he is certainly not a glory hunting fair weather fan attracted by the sheer glamour of a new stadium. tongue.gif


Hardly! I have been going since the mid eighties mate, when the inter city postmen were in full force! rolleyes.gif



#6 JohnM

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 08:41 PM

if the cap fits, etc.

My first Wigan game? 1957.

#7 Exiled Wiganer

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 08:51 PM

Didn't the WRU organise a press conference for him? Why would they do that?

#8 Jill Halfpenny fan

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 09:27 PM

QUOTE (JohnM @ Sep 24 2010, 09:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
if the cap fits, etc.

My first Wigan game? 1957.


Must have been playing Swinton at a guess..

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#9 EastLondonMike

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 09:40 PM

also have a lot of time for him.. always speaks well and comes across as a real genuine and down to earth guy. A modern day British RL legend.

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#10 3owls

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 10:15 PM

The best quarterback to ever play rugby league. Has he ever passed a ball backwards?

#11 saintfrank

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 10:29 PM

QUOTE (3owls @ Sep 24 2010, 11:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The best quarterback to ever play rugby league. Has he ever passed a ball backwards?



course he has, now McGuire on the other hand tongue.gif
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#12 3owls

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 10:46 PM

QUOTE (saintfrank @ Sep 24 2010, 11:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
course he has, now McGuire on the other hand tongue.gif

Finish your ovaltine and take your teeth out granddad, it's time for bed.

Well done tonight, you're a good lad despite coming from the wrong side of the pennines.

#13 saintfrank

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 10:51 PM

QUOTE (3owls @ Sep 24 2010, 11:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Finish your ovaltine and take your teeth out granddad, it's time for bed.

Well done tonight, you're a good lad despite coming from the wrong side of the pennines.



course i am, and it is bedtime as you state......need the energy to watch who we may play next week at our second home..should have borrowed that instead of widnes tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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#14 saintfrank

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 10:54 PM

QUOTE (3owls @ Sep 24 2010, 11:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Finish your ovaltine and take your teeth out granddad, it's time for bed.

Well done tonight, you're a good lad despite coming from the wrong side of the pennines.



oh and thanks, was a bit nervy though when hudds crept ahead huh.gif
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Posted 25 September 2010 - 10:03 AM

After watching week after week the deification of KC* by Sky (and indeed seeing League Express's views on his importance - how can a little thing like being the best team over 7 months compare with scoring a try in a game your team had already won in the 3rd from final game at a ground), I wonder whether he is a British great as opposed to a Saints great.
He is the finest 9 I have seen and a one man victory machine for his club. A couple of things give me pause for thought about his place in the history of the game...
Does his international career match his ability? My recollection is that he had a couple of brilliant games for Wales and one good series for GB, which puts his career somewhere between Gilmour's and Briers, and a million miles behind Schofield and even Farrell (who dirched his club and country).
Second, as I understand it he was given performance enhancing drugs without his knowledge. While clearly he is blameless, don't those things have a long lasting (see Dwain Chambers) and substantial benefit? Without attaching any blame to him, why is this subject never touched on (and why do hookers seem to have a propensity for these things?)?
If his career is compared to Morley or a true great like Hanley, then he falls a long way short to my mind, in that these were players who conquered the Aussies in their own back yard and had long and glorious international careers. Certainly, KC* deserves huge accolades, but I trust Morley will get this and far more when he hangs his boots up.
A Local Hero but not a British great?

Edited by Exiled Wiganer, 25 September 2010 - 10:09 AM.


#16 saintfrank

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 10:25 AM

QUOTE (Exiled Wiganer @ Sep 25 2010, 11:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
After watching week after week the deification of KC* by Sky (and indeed seeing League Express's views on his importance - how can a little thing like being the best team over 7 months compare with scoring a try in a game your team had already won in the 3rd from final game at a ground), I wonder whether he is a British great as opposed to a Saints great.
He is the finest 9 I have seen and a one man victory machine for his club. A couple of things give me pause for thought about his place in the history of the game...
Does his international career match his ability? My recollection is that he had a couple of brilliant games for Wales and one good series for GB, which puts his career somewhere between Gilmour's and Briers, and a million miles behind Schofield and even Farrell (who dirched his club and country).
Second, as I understand it he was given performance enhancing drugs without his knowledge. While clearly he is blameless, don't those things have a long lasting (see Dwain Chambers) and substantial benefit? Without attaching any blame to him, why is this subject never touched on (and why do hookers seem to have a propensity for these things?)?
If his career is compared to Morley or a true great like Hanley, then he falls a long way short to my mind, in that these were players who conquered the Aussies in their own back yard and had long and glorious international careers. Certainly, KC* deserves huge accolades, but I trust Morley will get this and far more when he hangs his boots up.
A Local Hero but not a British great?



wouldnt exspect any other reply from SOME pies, join the list
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#17 saintfrank

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 10:26 AM

Huddersfield coach Nathan Brown said:

"They say everybody is replaceable but I'm not so sure Keiron Cunningham is replaceable. He's an outstanding player.

"The word great gets thrown about a bit loosely but, if he hadn't played tonight, I dare say the scoreboard would have read a bit more in Huddersfield's favour. The game flowed their way when he was on the field.

"Inside that 10 metres, Saints are probably as good as any side in the world
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#18 saintfrank

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 10:29 AM

QUOTE (Wendall @ Sep 24 2010, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hardly! I have been going since the mid eighties mate, when the inter city postmen were in full force! rolleyes.gif



ive been going, since we went on bikes......................penny farthings as well tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

but i aint going to Widnes on it biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Edited by saintfrank, 25 September 2010 - 10:30 AM.

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#19 Exiled Wiganer

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 10:34 AM

I am not sure you take my point - he is the best 9 I have ever seen and a Saints great - I was posing the question as to where he stands in the scheme of things as a great of the game. Does that require greater achievements on the international stage? While his character is blameless, by universal opinion, is it reasonable to ask to what extent does what ends up in your body assist you as a player?
If that strikes you as harsh and unfair then that was not my intention. This was after all a thread about his place in the scheme of things.
To pose the question another way - which is the bigger British great - Morley or KC*?

#20 1976PMJwires

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 10:36 AM

KC is a true RL great and Saints Legend.

a one club man, unlike scofield, hanley or farrell tongue.gif


any other comments are their opinion, But KC is a Giant of the Game.

I'm glad he's retiring but he'll be missed by all.

Hope he gets a job with Sky, after seeing him carney, he is a well spoken young man and would be good for the game.... maybe he can pole axe clarke one day wink.gif laugh.gif

Edited by 1976PMJwires, 25 September 2010 - 10:38 AM.





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