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#3093372 U16's academy result

Posted by tim2 on 22 March 2015 - 07:20 PM

London beat Sheffield - thankfully things are still alive at junior level in the capital, even if it's a disaster at pro level.

#3093349 5K run on a treadmill

Posted by tim2 on 22 March 2015 - 06:47 PM

East Hull 20 mile today in 2h 57m 30s - very happy with consistent pacing up to the last 2 miles which were tough and I really had to dig in. What I know now is that I shouldn't go at this pace in my marathon next month.

#3092672 Are we destroying the Championship?

Posted by tim2 on 21 March 2015 - 02:27 PM

this is a good point.


Probably - what it needed was somehow getting more funding to the Championship so that more of them could challenge for promotion. I understand to some extent the need for balloon payments for clubs relegated from "big bucks" leagues but all it does is make things worse.

#3092218 Are we destroying the Championship?

Posted by tim2 on 20 March 2015 - 07:16 PM

I'm in the camp that doesn't like this system for all the reasons outlined in countless posts. I'm still interested to see how it pans out.


The part-time teams who make the middle 8 are likely to get battered but I'm not sure whether it matters if they get a big cash bonus for doing it that they can use to become closer to full-time. I don't know how much they will make, though.


No-one has really answered the question of how you mix full and part time teams and allow promotion and relegation whilst retaining standards at the highest level - this system is a sort of fudge that tries to optimise between these potentially conflicting requirements in a sport that is short of cash.

#3091496 Sport England funding cut

Posted by tim2 on 19 March 2015 - 05:02 PM

Considering the way that Sport England money was squandered in the past by the RFL, club-led programmes are worth a try.


Much of that was spent according to Sport England stipulations. SE effectively forced the NGB's hand to do things that weren't the best way to increase participation.


Example: In non-traditional RL areas you need 5-10 years to build a solid legacy. Funding something for 3 years and then saying that it hasn't worked is actually counter-productive long term.

#3091270 Hillsborough Inquest update

Posted by tim2 on 19 March 2015 - 10:34 AM

Individuals acting in a crowd do not have an overview of what they are doing. They are not in a position to see from above, they don't know how many people are in the ground, where the space is or perhaps even the layout of the ground. Opening the gate wasn't the key mistake - it was not blocking the entrance to the central pen - sending the fans round into the side pens would have probably stopped the disaster. Simply delaying the kick off and making a crowd announcement may have resolved it as well.


I was at a Third Division (or maybe Fourth) in the 1980s where there were perhaps 500 people in a pen. More than enough space until the end of the game when we all headed to the gate to be let out. It was just that - a gate about 3 feet wide so we channeled in towards that corner like a funnel. The only problem was, they wanted to hold us back until the home fans had gone but crucially did not announce it. As the unwitting crowd pushed towards the entrance it got very, very uncomfortable at the front. I was genuinely scared. People were shouting that they were being squashed but the stewards and police totally ignored us. Thankfully there weren't enough people behind to really cause a problem. When I later saw how events unfolded at Hillsborough it absolutely chiled me to think how frightening it was for those people in the moments before they died. This kind of incident must have happened many times (and had, indeed, happened twice before at Hillsborough).


I try my best to remain calm when discussing this with people and implore them to read the reports, the eye witness accounts and keep a true open mind. If I had been there, or I had had a family member who had died, I think I may not be able to react to some of the responses I've seen and read with the dignity that the families have shown throughout this nightmare.


The only thing I would say is that football as a whole, and its supporters, must take responsibility for not controlling the hooliganism problem in the 70s and 80s that led to the pens existing in the first place. I would also like the FA to admit their mistakes too.

#3090681 Hillsborough Inquest update

Posted by tim2 on 18 March 2015 - 09:49 AM

I'm having a (respectful) discussion with someone on facebook about this (a friend of a friend). He is still unwittingly regurgitating untruths that were peddled 25 years ago and are still embedded in the national psyche due to the relentless efforts of people in charge of the event and the country. Mrs T had an agenda that was pro-police and anti-football and she and her government were complicit in the lying narrative that followed. Labour's shameful mock inquiry that followed the 1997 election victory shows that all parties could be guilty of failing the 96 and their families. Don't get me started on the press.


I can actually forgive some of the original mistakes - we are all human and we should be able to empathise with someone whose mistake was so catastrophic. However the subsequent cover-up, denial and lies are not forgivable. 

#3089797 5K run on a treadmill

Posted by tim2 on 16 March 2015 - 12:56 PM

Smashed my 10 mile PB by nearly 6 minutes yesterday in Blackpool - it was a fairly weak PB set on a hilly course nearly 3 years ago but nonetheless a PB is a PB.


On an unrelated note, I always assumed Blackpool was in Lancashire but as I left the town I saw a sign "Welcome to Lancashire". What is Blackpool in, then?

#3089670 15 Mar: Kingstone Press Championship Round 5 - Match Thread

Posted by tim2 on 16 March 2015 - 10:25 AM

You can argue pointlessly all you like but Bradford and Leigh will be in the top 4, probably top 2, so realistically their season starts in July when they both hope to be hitting form and be injury free and get one (lucky will do) result. That's what 3x8 is all about.  

#3086349 5K run on a treadmill

Posted by tim2 on 10 March 2015 - 11:44 AM

If I aren't working, you're on! Although I will not be held responsible for any lowest ever times you might record. ;)


Unfortunately due to a family illness my plans have had to change. I'm running in Blackpool on Sunday (10 miler) which should be fun and then the East Hull 20 miler the week after.


I did 49.02 at the Dronfield 10K at the weekend, my first sub 50 minute 10K for over a year. You have a different perspective on 10K races when you're training for a marathon!

#3083155 State of the Game?

Posted by tim2 on 05 March 2015 - 11:09 AM

I think that the summer v winter issue has clouded a more critical malaise in the way amateur clubs are supported and maintained by the game as a whole.


Having experienced "winter" and "summer" seasons at junior level I actually think that having 2 "seasons" in a calendar year is an option that should be seriously considered.


I would have March - mid-July incorporating cups and some performance activity but dropping "scholarships" altogether at U15 and below. I would then re-start the leagues and have another 10 game season from September - November.  This would be an opportunity to trial a 6 month "age year" to iron out the differences between players born Sep-Jan and those born afterwards (look at the stats). This avoids the really cold months and also the summer holidays. 


I think the adult season has very different issues and it's hard to separate the general decline in participation (alternative attractions, more focus on families etc.) from the specific playing season issues.


Volunteering and maintaining enthusiasm within amateur RL is getting harder and harder. Our chairman is a chuffing saint - he is driving all sorts of initiatives to raise playing numbers and it's not really happening.  We, as a club, are having to find the funding for a lot of this work - compared to other sports within our demographic we really can't get the level of funding that we deperately need over 5-10 years to consolidate in the traditional regions and establish new, solid. foundations in expansion areas.


I actually don't care if it's BARLA or someone at the RFL but somebody needs to stand up and stop this downward trend somehow.

#3081641 That clip of Rangi Chase...

Posted by tim2 on 02 March 2015 - 02:17 PM

My RU loving colleague was impressed but also managed to find the clip of him breaking Tangi Ropati's jaw.

#3081465 5K run on a treadmill

Posted by tim2 on 02 March 2015 - 10:25 AM

My first Bradford parkrun today for a while...29.30. Not bad IMO but will have to beat that next week if I aren't working.


Edited due to terrible grammar. (not that IMO probably comes under grammar..lol..er)


I might be popping into the Bradford parkrun on 14th March - I was at the Hockney exhibition yesterday and want to go back again. Let me know if you're running that day and I'll go round with you as I've got a race on the 15th and want to go steadily (for me!)


I ran the Rother Valley parkrun on Saturday to bring my total for February to a record 108 miles. I then ran just short of 21 miles last night, ending up in driving sleet. Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger, right?

#3075967 Swinging arm tackles

Posted by tim2 on 21 February 2015 - 04:39 PM

I haven't said it does.

I've already said they both deserved sin binning. But surely even you can see that a deliberate high shot intended to injure a player should probably get a red but an unintentional reactional high grab might only get a yellow.


We were always taught as refs that "reckless" or "dangerous" were the type of description that would warrant a red, regardless of intent. I would argue this was both. International games seem to work on a completely different basis, where you have to pull a gun out and shoot someone to potentially get a yellow. Unless you're Adrian Morley against Australia.

#3073342 5K run on a treadmill

Posted by tim2 on 16 February 2015 - 08:30 PM

30K at Stamford - smashed it, finishing 9 minutes quicker than the same race last year in 2 hours 46 minutes 50 seconds.


More training now ready for the Hull 20 mile next month.