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#3116551 Danny Jones

Posted by tim2 on Today, 08:34 PM

Obviously our thoughts are with his family and friends who will be devastated.


As a former club chairman and match official at amateur level I also feel for everyone at the Keighley club, the people at Skolars and the officials and spectators at the game. You always know there are risks and you work hard to minimise them and pray it doesn't happen. Today it did and it's truly tragic.


RIP to a player who I enjoyed watching even though it was against my team.

#3111740 5K run on a treadmill

Posted by tim2 on 25 April 2015 - 03:08 PM

I did it! 4 hours 8 minutes 39 seconds with no stopping or walking.


It took several days to recover and even this morning's parkrun was hard.

#3103802 Conference League South

Posted by tim2 on 10 April 2015 - 12:01 PM

 That's the shining light in all of this - strengthen this further and we'll have more "home grown" players. Sadly other clubs in the region don't prioritise this side of things, but hopefully they will in future.


I wouldn't bank on it. You get no thanks for doing it and your junior players end up playing for another club that prioritises open age.

#3103775 Obituary Corner

Posted by tim2 on 10 April 2015 - 11:28 AM

Richie Benaud remains one of the few Aussie cricketers that England fans loved rather than just respected. His ability to provide balanced yet informed commentary was something very special. Wherever you have gone I hope your first words were "Good morning, everyone"

#3100591 3 Apr: The Kingstone Press League 1 Match Thread (Good Friday)

Posted by tim2 on 04 April 2015 - 03:47 PM

An excellent post , but I'll be happy for any of the clubs down there to just get into the Championship 1 st , because that will drive on the rest


Just to re-affirm the potential, Ricky Bailey, originally from Telford Raiders, has been named in the St Helens squad for the game on Monday. He was developed during the boom in Midlands Junior Rugby, where we had origin games, regional squads, a vibrant league and development officers. It took about 8 years to build and has sadly declined now due to funding cuts.

#3100497 1/3 Apr: The Kingstone Press Championship Match Thread (Easter Part One)

Posted by tim2 on 04 April 2015 - 12:59 PM

The Broncos sorted themselves out just in time and are now strong contenders for a top 4 place. They could easily have lost to Fax and Fev and would have been facing a real uphill battle. Now the confidence will be flowing and I can see them kicking on from here.


Henderson is a good coach, lots of experience at this level particularly in relation to the attitude they will need if they are to challenge Bradford and Leigh whilst fending off the better part-time sides.


The Eagles managed to hammer them when they were at a low point but they'll be a different proposition at Bloomfield Road and again at their place.

#3100492 Coventry Bears make winning start in League 1

Posted by tim2 on 04 April 2015 - 12:53 PM

It probably won't mean very much when the season unfolds but the official RFL site has the wrong score at 30-10.
In the short term it means the Bears are shown as 3rd in the table instead of joint second.


Sorry I missed you yesterday, Ron, caught up with Boomer and Tom though. Well done to all at the club for a good day. I actually had to queue at the turnstiles (yes I know it was only one!) which oddly enough added to the feeling that there was quite a big crowd there.

#3100468 3 Apr: The Kingstone Press League 1 Match Thread (Good Friday)

Posted by tim2 on 04 April 2015 - 12:06 PM

A good weekend for RL and a good weekend for Kingstons Press Championship 1.


Well done to the RFL,the Sponsors,the new Clubs and new spectators.


Who would have thought a few years ago,that there would be a full list of third tier fixtures,with Newcastle getting over 1500 for a win over Barrow,home counties Hemel edging capital London,new side Coventry pipping academical Oxford and Welsh raiders SW,losing out to Gloucester.


A few people are going to have to try really hard to find something to complain about.


Agreed - it was a cracking atmosphere at Coventry, which is a great facility at this level and would be good enough if they got promoted. I hope that people stick with it, especially when (as there will inevitably be) there are some one-sided games. I have known the guys there for years and have a lot of respect for them - it's 90 miles each way for me but I will get down there when I can.


Nigel Wood was there too showing support (or as someone pointed out, "ay up, the fat controller's here") and Oxford had a fair few travelling fans in attendance.


The smart move from the RFL was to get more expansion clubs in at the same time, which means they aren't having to do what the Skolars did and face the step up alone. I have a lot of faith in Hemel and Coventry to make a go of it as they have long histories as clubs and have built up a lot of experience. The others I will reserve judgement on but I hope it works out for all of them. Those of us who remember the ill-fated expansions of the 1980s do not want that repeated.

#3099506 Catalan need to play more Frenchmen

Posted by tim2 on 03 April 2015 - 09:28 AM

Yes, but Catalans have to win and get in the top 8. To do that, they will sign and pick the best players they can. The arrival of 3x8 has given them no leeway to have a bad season.

#3098343 Are we destroying the Championship?

Posted by tim2 on 01 April 2015 - 11:51 AM


It may make great business sense if entry is by ability to grow resources, but those who don't enter are dead men.


The price of a well run and well funded secure Superleague is the destruction of the championships


We appear, through historical reasons, to be unable to accept the Australian model. I would imagine that people can watch and support the Ipswich Jets in the Queensland Cup and also Brisbane Broncos in the NRL without it being an issue.


Also, if there were a second NRL team in Brisbane, it probably wouldn't be one of the existing clubs but a brand new franchise bringing its own business plan to attract new fans, new money and feed more cash into the feeder clubs of the QC.

#3098306 Are we destroying the Championship?

Posted by tim2 on 01 April 2015 - 11:05 AM

Personally I think licensing was better. One of the biggest issues with it was that the sitting SL clubs seemed to be invicible due to the framework put around the process and the only way anyone lost their place was insolvency.


The current setup of the 3x8 has more holes in it than a Swiss cheese but seems to have placated a few fans in the meantime, so good news there.


I think that, at the current time, England can only sustain a limited number of elite professional RL clubs. We are really just bickering about how you join the club. I'm not convinced that you can justify the jump to elite status on the basis of throwing money at a team that can then win a one-off game against a club that may be doing everything right but have a horrible run of injuries. I think the England limit is 9 or 10, especially if you assume that the 9 or 10 are from the band of the country containing the traditional areas. Licensing would allow you to receive applications from outside that area provided they bring in extra money (e.g. TV deals) and/or additional playing resources (France) and enough backer funding to cover the 3 years of their license. The only way England can manage more than 9 or 10 is a vast influx of cash that could only come from TV rights being much higher than current levels or Bill Gates becoming a massive RL fand giving us 500 million dollars to play with.


The days of any club being able to rise to the very top from nowhere using team spirit and good coaching (e.g. Nottingham Forest in the 1970s) have long gone in modern sports. Accepting that generating money is the root of success, that TV provides a large part of that money and rich benefactors most of the rest with seat prices being far behind.


I could write a full model of how I think it should work but frankly I don't have time and I'd want the RFL to pay me as much as they did to whoever came up with 3x8. ;)


Actually, it's not simple for a sport that struggles with its media profile to compete with the other pro sports in an age when there is so much alternative entertainment, no matter how much we all agree (and despite 30 pages of this I assume we do) that the product is exceptional.

#3097304 Are we destroying the Championship?

Posted by tim2 on 30 March 2015 - 11:34 AM

Quite right Lass, I found today's game at the LSV utterly and totally boring, it was a none contest from the first five minutes, I am a season ticket holder and as always will keep an eye on what is happening in the league, but and it is a big but, the consideration I will be looking at is it worth attending a foregone conclusion?

I obviously have already paid for the games I may choose not to attend, but on the other hand I usually go to away games also and after going to Donny and Fev I will also be looking at these very closely, in fact I have already made my mind up re Friday at Hunslet - I'm not going.

So, back on topic "Are we destroying the Championship" yes, although each to their own, for me I can't see Krytens nemesis of the "Vibrant competition worth winning" not in quality games at least, for the future if we don't get up, and I think it will be very hard to achieve promotion, I hope jpmc is correct that we will have more FT teams next year in this division, if there are not a the least 6, I will be selective on the games I attend and not purchasing a ST.


Based on watching Hunslet yesterday, when Sheffield beat them with 12 players without really clicking in attack, and the fact that Sheffield put three or four Hawks players out of commission with some fierce tackling it is more than likely than Leigh will put 60+ on them. Hunslet play Fax away on Easter Monday as well which will to some extent be a damage limitation exercise and probably have one eye on the must-win game at home to Whitehaven on 12th April.


In football a bottom team can beat a top team even one several divisions away (Bradford at Chelsea), part-timers can beat full-timers. In rugby (both codes) it's very, very unlikely and the 3x8 format with such a standard discrepancy must lead to mismatches where even the fans of the better team can't be bothered. Every minute counts? Not really. For Leigh it only counts occasionally until they get to the middle 8 and for Hunslet it counts when they play teams thet can realistically beat.


In rugby league it's actually very hard not to try your best - in fact you can get hurt and I would never suggest that players don't put their bodies on the line in games but you can drop intensity when you're being hammered (or indeed hwn you're doing the hammering) and no-one really blames you.

#3093372 U16's academy result

Posted by tim2 on 22 March 2015 - 07:20 PM

London beat Sheffield - thankfully things are still alive at junior level in the capital, even if it's a disaster at pro level.

#3093349 5K run on a treadmill

Posted by tim2 on 22 March 2015 - 06:47 PM

East Hull 20 mile today in 2h 57m 30s - very happy with consistent pacing up to the last 2 miles which were tough and I really had to dig in. What I know now is that I shouldn't go at this pace in my marathon next month.

#3092672 Are we destroying the Championship?

Posted by tim2 on 21 March 2015 - 02:27 PM

this is a good point.


Probably - what it needed was somehow getting more funding to the Championship so that more of them could challenge for promotion. I understand to some extent the need for balloon payments for clubs relegated from "big bucks" leagues but all it does is make things worse.