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#3181144 Labour leadership contest

Posted by Derwent on 23 August 2015 - 10:39 AM

Two up from this post.
Louise Mensch is in Labour now is she?

As far as I am aware she is not involved in British politics at all now, so her opinion doesn't count for very much really.

#3180598 TOWN v Fev

Posted by Derwent on 22 August 2015 - 07:18 AM

town now evens off scratch with bet365.........hope some of you got on at 6/4 .

Shows how far we have progressed recently when we are such a short price to beat a team that's beaten us 124-0 so far this season !

#3179505 Labour leadership contest

Posted by Derwent on 20 August 2015 - 11:33 AM



Everyone who voted tory or UKIP are from the centre ground or have right wing views


Actually I think it's the complete opposite. Many of those who voted UKIP should be target Labour voters - working class people in manual jobs, living in social housing etc


The point a lot of people miss about UKIP and immigration is that it is those at the bottom of the socio-economic ladder that are at most risk from it and are more likely to be opposed to it. Its not racism, its fear for their own livelihoods especially those who work in unskilled low paid jobs. They should be Labour voters all day long, but they see Labour doing nothing to address their fears so turn elsewhere. Someone like Corbyn is going to alienate them even further.

#3171794 winger

Posted by Derwent on 06 August 2015 - 10:20 AM

Forgotten the name of the winger who played outside him, made a great pairing, Maryport lad I think ?


Leigh Smith usually played outside of Vinnie.


By the way, I can't believe that Kevin Pape hasn't had a mention yet - a terrific player even though he was towards the end of his career when he joined Town.

#3171790 Kids Company

Posted by Derwent on 06 August 2015 - 10:14 AM

Ministers have the right to go against official advice, they're elected representatives of the people.

But they don't half look silly when they do and it all goes belly-up, and should carry the can.


The way the media deal with these things makes it a no win situation for any government.


Deprive the charity of funding - headlines along the lines of "Heartless government cuts off funds to charity for underprivileged children".


Give funding - "Government squanders £3m on failed charity"


Its the world we live in unfortunately, not a political issue.

#3168174 Any news on Iestyn Harris? What the hell is happening at Salford!

Posted by Derwent on 30 July 2015 - 09:57 PM

It's Tim Sheens you have to feel sorry for. He was at Salford earlier in the season and now, astonishingly, has come back for more! I find it hard to believe that Tim, from his position working at the upper echelons of the club, could possibly know more than the rumour mill, ''reliable sources'' and this forum's Straw Marwan Syndrome sufferers, so we have to conclude he's one tackle short of a set of six. A tragedy in someone so young.

Or, maybe, he's just happy to pocket a nice bit of cash for what is after all a very short term arrangement ? You do know he's only here for a couple of months right ?

#3167863 Calais: what to do.

Posted by Derwent on 30 July 2015 - 11:47 AM

Obviously the UK must be the only place of safety in the whole of western Europe........

#3164733 Labour leadership contest

Posted by Derwent on 26 July 2015 - 08:16 AM

If you are poor with a view - Chippy, politics of envy.
If you are well off with a view - Champagne socialist.

Perhaps, but what exactly makes Charlotte Church a noteable political commentator ? Am I missing something as to why her view is important ?

#3164539 Ha ha Haven!

Posted by Derwent on 25 July 2015 - 06:48 PM

Fair play to Haven they've gone there with the right attitude and done the job. Let's hope our lads go with the same positive attitude tomorrow.

#3162626 Labour leadership contest

Posted by Derwent on 22 July 2015 - 05:51 PM

Isn't that what Left Unity claims to be doing? How come they haven't swept into power on this apparently huge wave of popular support that exists out there that the Labour Party isn't tapping into?
Maybe it isn't actually there and this country is, on the whole, not very left wing at all.

As I said earlier in this thread, the UK is conservative with a small c. Labour ignore that at their peril.

#3161295 Town v Broncos

Posted by Derwent on 20 July 2015 - 12:18 PM

Great effort kurt is proving me wrong


It was always just a matter of time before Kurt started to show what he can do. His 2 ex team mates in Oz are both getting praise at Halifax and Kurt was more highly regarded over there than they were. Its taken him time to acclimatise and get used to things over here but I think he will prove to be a very valuable acquisition from now on.

#3160823 Labour leadership contest

Posted by Derwent on 19 July 2015 - 06:53 PM

True Tories will always vote that way, just as Labour hardcore will always vote that way. But the thing that decides elections is the whole swathe of the population in the middle who are conservative with a small c.

I hear Labour politicians harping on about the "working man" as if we are still in 1975 and the large industrial base still existed. Where the "working man" had little aspiration other than to feed his family and get by week to week.

The "working man" these days is just as likely to go to work in a tie, drive a BMW and live in a nice house on a suburban estate, want his kids to go to university, have a foreign holiday every year etc.

Forget about appealing to core voters, it is these people who win elections. Blair got it, before he got his God complex. I'm not suggesting Labour should go back to the full on Blairite approach but if they don't incorporate aspects of it and understand why it's important then quite frankly they are doomed.

#3158808 Labour leadership contest

Posted by Derwent on 16 July 2015 - 06:34 AM

If Labour lurch hard left with Corbyn then they are finished. Truly. Have a look around Europe and see how other left of centre parties are doing. In the modern era left wing politics doesn't work with people's sense of genuine fairness, it rewards the wrong behaviours and fails those with aspiration.

#3158020 £12bn in welfare cuts

Posted by Derwent on 14 July 2015 - 11:27 AM

My own personal view is that we should have a multi-tier benefits system in place. I really think there is a genuine need to put people into different classifications of claimant.


I'd classify them as :-


1. Unemployed

2. Incapacitated/Disabled

3. Unemployable

4. Career Claimants


Unemployed - in this context I'd classify the unemployed as those people who have worked, want to work and for reasons not of their own making don't currently have a job to go to. People who would take a suitable job tomorrow given the opportunity. These people should receive a far higher benefits entitlement to that which they currently receive, based on a % of their average earnings over the last 3 years as an example.


Incapacitated/Disabled - based on medical evidence, if these people are deemed to be genuinely unfit to work, then they should receive a benefits package that affords them a decent standard of living to at least the same level as a full-time NMW worker.


Unemployable - those without any skills, qualifications or desire to work. These people should receive much lower benefits than the genuinely unemployed. Those in this category who wish to receive enhanced benefits could progress by doing some vocational training or adult education courses to make them more employable. Opportunities should be there for them, if they take them then they receive more money, if not then they don't.


Career Claimants - those who have never worked, have no desire to ever work and are content to let the state provide for them. These people should be on the bare minimum of benefits.


I've never quite understood why people in the "unemployed" category should be treated the same as those in the "career claimant" category. If people want to complain about the unfairness of the benefits system then how about starting with the inherent unfairness that exists within it, where a genuine jobseeker can be treated worse than a claimant who has no intention of working. A tiered system gives people choice and opportunity as to how they are treated by the system. You want to progress - great, we'll help you. You want to sit on your backside watching Jeremy Kyle - fine, but accept the consequences. Personal choices.

#3156916 8-12 Jul: The Kingstone Press Championship Match Thread

Posted by Derwent on 12 July 2015 - 04:08 PM

Fantastic win for Town in the Cumbrian derby, totally dominated Haven to win 28-6 at the Wreck.