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#3015458 11 Super League players in Top 100 players in the world

Posted by Derwent on 17 October 2014 - 10:15 AM

There's no such thing as a best player in the world. How do you compare a prop with a half back or a winger ? Best player in a particular position yes, best player overall no.

#3015432 Lord Freud

Posted by Derwent on 17 October 2014 - 09:39 AM



There's no money for this top-up of course and it won't be guaranteed but it's vital we do all we can to be 'fit for business'.  In this case it means making sure some of our poorest people are paid significantly less than a living rate so that boardroom profits aren't dented.


Its this kind of stereotyping that I find hypocritical. The suggestion that boardrooms are packed with greedy uncompassionate people is just downright nonsense. Of course there are some directors that are, but the general stereotyping is incorrect in my experience.


I have been on both sides of the divide and I can state with absolute certainty that I could walk onto any shop floor anywhere in the country and find you greedy uncompassionate people there too. But of course, in some people's worlds the management are compelled to be greedy fat cats looking to exploit the workers and the workers are all angelic downtrodden victims.


Bottom line in this matter is this - do you want employers to employ more people with disabilities ?


If yes, make it easier for employers to do so.


If no, don't complain when they don't.

#3015263 Lord Freud

Posted by Derwent on 16 October 2014 - 08:31 PM

This is another example of people hearing what they want to hear instead of thinking about what he was actually saying.

When you strip it down to the basics, what he was saying was that quite often employers won't employ disabled workers because of costs. To mitigate that he was suggesting that some of the cost burden be taken off the employers and passed to the state.

So, it would be cheaper for the employer, thus encouraging them to employ more people with disabilities. The worker would be no worse off as the "below minimum wage" pay would be topped up via the benefits system. I fail to see what so wrong with that, it is a win-win for all concerned.

#3015259 And we think our VR's are bad !

Posted by Derwent on 16 October 2014 - 08:24 PM


#3011831 11/10/14 - SLGF: St Helens v Wigan Warriors KO 6pm (TV)

Posted by Derwent on 11 October 2014 - 07:24 PM

The Flower incident obviously impacted on the result but the other turning point was during the second half where Bowen had a 3 man overlap but tried to go himself and bombed it. Would have put Wigan 12-2 up and given them a cushion.

#3009003 Kate and Gerry McCann

Posted by Derwent on 07 October 2014 - 10:37 AM

Now THAT is a cop out!

If you stick to the established facts and choose your words carefully then you should be able to elaborate on why you find the McCanns "sickening".

I have an open mind on this case. The detective who was in charge of the investigation has apparently written a book setting out his views on who was responsible for what did or didn't happen by the way.


The actual case itself is of course tragic and that is not the part I find sickening about them.


Things that I do find sickening include (but are not limited to) :-


1. They have never, so far as I can see, taken any responsibility for the events of that night. Had they not gone out and left the children alone then it would never have happened. Whatever did happen to Madeleine they have to take some accountability, however small, but they seem reluctant to do so.


2. Their use of the charitable fund (i.e. public donations) set up for the search for Madeleine to pay their mortgage etc


3. Their employing an expensive spin doctor (Clarence Mitchell), again paid for by the Find Madeleine fund, but who's brief was to improve the public image of Mr & Mrs McCann

#3008495 'Well Run' clubs

Posted by Derwent on 06 October 2014 - 01:30 PM

Warrington Borough council negotiated that they built the "community" facility on the same plot of land that they wanted to build their superstore, but at time of completion didn't want to manage it so handed over the keys to Warrington RLFC



Tesco had made 3 previous planning applications to build a superstore in Warrington and had been knocked back each time. Then once the Tetley Walker brewery site was demolished the council was left with a large patch of bare contaminated land in the town centre, and so when Tesco came back again they said you can build on that site provided you pay for the land to be cleaned up but you must also provide a stadium as part of the development. Even then, Tesco only built the stadium shell and the fitting out was funded by the council.

#3007912 The TV Thread

Posted by Derwent on 05 October 2014 - 03:55 PM

The Blacklist, James Spader at his menacing best, very good telly.

#3007624 'Well Run' clubs

Posted by Derwent on 05 October 2014 - 08:21 AM

The definition of being well run will be different for each club, you can not pin it down to a few cliched phrases. Success for one club would be relative failure at another. As long as a club is progressing and doing so within its means then it is being well run. Yes there is always room for improvement and every club should strive for being the best they can be, but again it's all relative. Success for Wakefield would probably be failure for Wigan or Leeds in comparative terms.

increasing attendances etc are not a measure of how well run the club is. They can happen by having on field success, but that success might be at a financial cost that is unsustainable. Ironically those "KPI" issues can be achieved by very poor short term management. How a club performs on the field is no measure of how well it is managing its resources.

#3007587 'Well Run' clubs

Posted by Derwent on 05 October 2014 - 05:36 AM

I'd nominate my club, workington town, and it's excellent bod. Our club was run badly for years and almost went down the drain. The current board have built progressively and lived within their means for several years now, while also bringing international rl to Derwent park, and currently a superb coach. I know a couple of them and they are doing everything the right way, and without being able to pump in their own money, as they are not fat wallet lads.

Definitely, the current board have done a fantastic job. The club has been profitable for 5 of the last 6 years while progressing on the field with mainly young local players. This has been done on very limited resources and also with the millstone around their neck of the ownership of Derwent Park and the considerable cost that incurs. The club has an excellent community department and great links with local schools and amateur clubs which are paying dividends. The board have all committed to the ethos that there will be no debt on their watch, the club will only spend what it can afford and any player coming to the club must accept and fit into a defined pay structure. They are getting it right off the field with the resources available to them. On the field Phil Veivers has brought a whole new level of professionalism and the players are responding to it positively. With some of the players coming in next season I expect further improvement and Town to establish themselves as a genuine Championship club.
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#3006098 The Tory Party Conference

Posted by Derwent on 02 October 2014 - 09:15 AM

Perhaps my use of "middle class" in this instance was a little lazy, when I was in fact thinking of middle earners (though there will be a large overlap of the two). I don't think it is the politics of envy, earnings are important to many people and many strive to improve them for very good reasons. 

Because we were being told on Monday by Osbourn that the country is skint and those unfortunate enough to find themselves reliant on benefits to make ends meet are the ones who will have to carry the burden of bailing it out despite them having the least to give. 


For a better breakdown of the financial implications see my post above. 


The point most people miss is that sometimes tax cuts can be partially self-funding. It is those middle income families that probably spend the most on luxury goods and houses, cars, even the weekly shopping. If you give them more disposable income at source then you get a good proportion of it back via the increased VAT take and you also stimulate the economy which leads to the creation of jobs and improved profitability, which in turn leads to an increased PAYE and corporation tax take.


The cost figures being bandied about are only the cost if none of the above happened. They may well be the figures that HMRC would no longer directly take via the PAYE/NI system but they would not be the cost, the two are entirely different things.

#3002188 You Were Always On My Mind-yeah right.

Posted by Derwent on 25 September 2014 - 10:06 AM

That's unlikely. Otherwise he would have stated 'get some concrete mix, in order to lay some footings upon which I will build an extension (subject to council approval)'. Plus they would never get any work done anyway with Wilko Johnson waving that guitar around like a madman; a potential H&S nightmare.

I don't think it's asking too much of our 70's R&B combos to have sensible building advice - do you?


Tell that to Starship - they built a city on rock n roll, what kind of building regs were they working to ?

#3001897 You Were Always On My Mind-yeah right.

Posted by Derwent on 24 September 2014 - 06:08 PM

The Drifters were no better. Saturday night at the movies, who cares what picture you see ? Well if you're not bothered about watching the film then why waste all that money on getting in then no doubt he'd be shelling out for drinks, popcorn and probably pick n mix and you know how expensive they are at the Odeon. Might as well have just gone under the Boardwalk on a blanket.

#3001287 After the Scottish referendum - what next? How should the UK be governed?

Posted by Derwent on 23 September 2014 - 03:40 PM

what do you expect a regional assembly to do? 


Add another coach to the gravy train ? Instead of 600+ shysters in London we could have 600+ shysters in London AND 100 more shysters somewhere else. Expensestastic !

#3000160 Well Done !

Posted by Derwent on 21 September 2014 - 07:40 PM

A huge well done to PV and Liam McAvoy who have both made the nominations for the Kingstone Press awards.

PV is nominated for coach of the year alongside Paul Rowley and Paul Cooke.

Liam is nominated for young player of the year alongside Carl Forster and Ryan Brierley.